Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi
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Immaculate
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awesome thanks. i doubt ill jump online anytime soon since im pretty average anyway haha
installation looks simple too
I didn't say you were, Flareon did.
But there are different fan bases for every game which want different things from SSB4.
I happen to fall along the lines of 64/Melee/Project M where I want a deep and intricate metagame.
Having one won't negatively affect casual players because Smash has the option to be fun with items and you're able to have fun anyway you want unlike any other fighting game.
Not having one turns off me and thousands of others who care and want to play the game competitively because that's how we see it as fun. Making the game more simplistic hurts the fanbase I'm in much much more than the casual fanbase.
Smash is unique in that unlike in Tekken, Street Fighter, etc. you won't get turned off right away when you see competitive play because there's a whole different way to play the game due to the items and party elements.
Most people who can't do those advance techs get turned off in a traditional fighter but in Smash, you can just play the game differently and still have fun.
I want a fast, combo based meta game like Project M and Melee and I hope that others would understand like I'm trying to understand why others are so against certain mechanics.
Smash has a very diverse group of fans, but the sad thing is that one group can be impacted very negatively while the other group come out just fine.
That's what we saw with the transition from Melee to Brawl and that's something I definitely don't want happening again.
No problem! It's pretty easy to mod as time consuming as it is and you should look into it if you want to get more out of the game.
The satisfaction of having Marceline over Ike and Bruce Willis over Diddy Kong is too fun. Plus Sword Ganon is OP.
Red Arremer
Member
I think you completely misinterpreted BGBW's intention of the post he made (the one that was called out on being ignorant, that is) - which was in response to the statement "Smash isn't Smash without a GC controller".
In other news, I just noticed I'm in the top 3 posters currently. I should stop posting so much and go back to primary lurk mode.
Red Arremer
Member
The button layout is also perfection for a game like smash where the A button is pivotal. The muscle memory retraining is also going to be a pain for long time fans especially when most actively prefer the gamecube controller due to plenty of objective and subjective reasons
Edit: I guess I did too lol But really I just want to say that I hope sakurai and nintendo come up with a solution to at least make it functional at tourneys
Red Arremer
Member
So, I just realized the one Square-enix rep that Smash Bros. needs and deserves.
Squeenix owns Taito, and thus this series btw.
I like the design, but it needs a lot more white space (both inside the characters boxes and between the roster and the other elements).Decided to put together a more "realistic" conservative roster. Also took into account how it should fit on the screen (original file is 1080p). This isn't necessarily how I think the select screen will look, I literally pinched graphics off of the website.
So that's 48 squares including random.
No worries, I've just been sitting here chuckling to myself over the whole thing. I'll admit the post was based on those telling people to accept that the Wi U doesn't natively support GCN controllers and move on but I didn't suspect to get quite that response.
I mean I don't think I used any of the controller setups other than GCN controls for Brawl so even I'll have to deal with it.
If only for the theme music.
This would be so great. Sooo great.
No I didn't even read his post, I just said that it wasn't me who called him ignorant.
I just wanted to leave my 2 cents on why we need good, competitive gameplay that's all.
I think the Wii U Pro Controller is fine and if you give people a month or so, they'll play just as well as if it were a GC controller. I've tried it with Melee and PM on Dolphin and I'm the group that believes that the second C-Stick works best on top. It feels much more comfortable that way.
@Jaeger, still gonna do the GAF PM Tourney or is Online so bad on Brawl that it puts non GC users at a disadvantage.
I was surprised when I tried online with the CCP as it lagged like crazy for button inputs. Locals it works fine with near no lag but holy shit online was horrible for anyone not using GameCube.
Starphoenix
Member
I don't get people and cultic GameCube controller obsession everyone seems to have. I managed to switch to the Classic Controller without any impact on my ability, so I don't get the complaints. My only real complaint is the controller feels too small, but with the Wii U Pro Controller that shouldn't be a problem.
Sometimes it hard to let go after using the same controller for over a decade and because it works so well lol. Oh well atlease the classic controller works well enough.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I think a GC controller is ideal, but with no better options, I'll just get used to the Gamepad or Pro Controller.
Well as I said previously when this topic came up, the big difference between 4 and Brawl is that they do not have the safety net of just relying on the GameCube controller so they'll be forced to make sure the game controls well with the GamePad and GamePad Pro. 3DS will require even more attention as it doesn't have the benefit of supporting multiple controllers, though I wonder if Sakurai will bother with the Circle Pad Pro.
I really hope Sakurai does add CCP support because that's something that will justify a purchase for me.
Once MH4U comes out too, I'd probably cave and get one.
Would love to have a Nintendo branded Gamecube controller but I don't think it would happen.
There are plenty of adapters on Amazon that can be used as the GC controller will emulate a Classic Controller. But I think you lose rumble or course...
Honestly... I don't think I care anymore about who gets in since I got Little Mac. I think Im straight with any more newcomers honestly.
For many, it was their controller of choice for 13 years of playing Smash Bros, they had the option between using a controller they've had for 7 years, or try the new one. Change is always hard to accept, especially if you've been used to something for that long in gaming.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
The roster concept came up by TheLegendofCap. Give him a credit!
Reason why I asked because I checked all of the revealed characters. Other than Mega Man, their games have been released between Brawl and Announcement of SSB4. I wonder if some characters' chances would be increased because their game got released between Brawl and SSB4 Announcement, despite the fact they didn't sell well or not.
It could be a coincidence, but with the exception of the two retro characters (Pit and R.O.B.), every Brawl newcomer appeared in at least one new game between 2001 and 2006.
Masked Man
I said wow
I've been playing Brawl on the Wii U with the Wii Classic Controller Pro, and it feels like a pretty decent alternative to the legendary GCN controller. I haven't tried out the Wii U Pro yet, but its stick placement makes me think that C-Stick Smashing will be both difficult and uncomfortable.
BassForever
Member
I started playing Brawl with the classic controller pro when smash for wiiu was announced, took a bit of getting used to (mostly the shoulder buttons and throwing items) but now its as natural as the N64 or GC controller
I disagree, the placement is much, much better than that of the CCP.
Dualshocks feel fine with the analogs down there with out the controller was designed but with the CCP, it doesn't feel natural and it'll cramp over time.
The U Pro Controller is a significant upgrade to the CCP as the buttons are much better and the overall feel is much more comfortable.
C-Sticking is actually much easier since it's there right when you need it.
If there were arcade stick support for Smash, I'd think arcade stick would be the most comfortable option.
I'm honestly quite surprised at how the roster wishes (obvious joke and "believe.gif" stuff aside) have become so similar and seemingly realistic over time here with like one or two minor differences (feelings regarding a third FE member being most prominent).
It's totally doable if a bit exotic in how it's done. Bsically, map all of your D-Pad buttons to jump, C on the nunchuk to grab and Z on the nunchuk to air dodge and go wild. I miss the C-Stick a lot sometimes, especially since I'm learning Fox from scratch and my F-smash reactions with Marth are a bit duller than I remember, but otherwise the controls are great.
Decided to put together a more "realistic" conservative roster. Also took into account how it should fit on the screen (original file is 1080p). This isn't necessarily how I think the select screen will look, I literally pinched graphics off of the website.
So that's 48 squares including random.
Do you have a .psd/GIMP file for this? It's about time I upped my presentation for my hopeful roster.
All I'd do personally is to change Chrom to Robin or Anna, add Mewtwo and replace Jimmy T with Impa (not because of anything mind you, I just like Impa).
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Somehow all the crazy people have gotten banned leaving mostly the sane ones to talk in the community.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, I posted it like 5-8 posts ago. You can find it very quickly by search this thread with Matthew as word.
I really like your character selection screen, and I really hope that style would happens. It actually popped.
Aww, Thanks!
I'm trying my best to annoying you but I think I failed big time. Did I?
Yeah, almost all of time. There are some heated discussions which is fun to watch tho.
Sure, I love that game but I can't really see how they would work other than making the bubbles?
It could be a coincidence, butI hope that it meant something for me.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Problem is that Sakurai didn't even know that Rob was in Mario Kart . I saw someone mentioned that in this thread (or other mega thread)
Red Arremer
Member
You know, I really hope that our calculations for a newcomer amount of 10 or less is going to turn out wrong.
Melee upped the 64 roster by 14 characters, and Brawl increased that roster by another 13 (counting transformations).
I'm personally hoping the roster is going be huge, preferably over 50 characters.
You're never being a condescending prick, quite the contrary, so yeah, it's hard to find you annoying.
Let Sakurai make the magic. I just want bubble shooting dinosaur dragons in Smash. And I want them NAO. :3
Melee upped the 64 roster by 14 characters, and Brawl increased that roster by another 13 (counting transformations).
I'm personally hoping the roster is going be huge, preferably over 50 characters.
I'm trying my best to annoying you but I think I failed big time. Did I?
You're never being a condescending prick, quite the contrary, so yeah, it's hard to find you annoying.
Let Sakurai make the magic. I just want bubble shooting dinosaur dragons in Smash. And I want them NAO. :3
Masked Man
I said wow
Huh. I had never thought about it, but I suppose having the C-Stick in an even more accessible position might not be so bad. I still think I'd have to get used to the new layout, but I might consider picking one up. (Amazon JPN is having a sale: U Pro for $27.)
You know, I really hope that our calculations for a newcomer amount of 10 or less is going to turn out wrong.
Melee upped the 64 roster by 14 characters, and Brawl increased that roster by another 13 (counting transformations).
I'm personally hoping the roster is going be huge, preferably over 50 characters.
You're never being a condescending prick, quite the contrary, so yeah, it's hard to find you annoying.
Let Sakurai make the magic. I just want bubble shooting dinosaur dragons in Smash. And I want them NAO. :3
I'd love to see Cooking Mama represented in some sort of way, but you know... Square Enix and their IPs...
Another big reason why I love SmashGAF more than a lot of other Smash oriented discussions is because everyone here is mostly optimistic and willing to try. There are too many try hards either trying to peddle some agenda (for a game they have no input in anyway) or trying to paint anything that could happen as overall negatives (shit's just Brawl 2/lol Super Rehash Bros.) in other places and it makes it kinda rough talking about it all.
I just hope that Smash 4 is a good enough game that people will be playing it and talking about it in Community threads this time around. Brawl kinda died everywhere I used to hang out online while other things/fighters flourished. As fun as fighters are, Smash is my hometown and I don't want to deal with another generation long ghost town.
I just hope that Smash 4 is a good enough game that people will be playing it and talking about it in Community threads this time around. Brawl kinda died everywhere I used to hang out online while other things/fighters flourished. As fun as fighters are, Smash is my hometown and I don't want to deal with another generation long ghost town.
Wait really? Wonder how he missed that.
They're actually cheaper than that now, but thing is Amazon.jp won't ship certain items to the states.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
ROB seemed like a fairly reoccurring suggestion for a retro rep for Brawl. What suddenly struck him off most lists was him also showing up as a generic drone in SSE; if not for that I wouldn't really consider him left-field like Mr. G&W or Snake were.
Hopefully this link works, I uploaded it to my dropbox account. It's 16MB.Do you have a .psd/GIMP file for this? It's about time I upped my presentation for my hopeful roster.
Hopefully layers are all clear. This was designed for my layout so I don't know how user friendly it is for others to make major changes to it. There are some rather lazy aspects to it.
If I had heard correctly a lot of people doubted ROB due to the fact that he technically didn't originate from a video game (being a peripheral and all).
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Seems like a dumb argument when you had stuff like the SNES Super Scope show up as items since Melee.
CombustingFetus
Neo Member
Does anyone have the high-res Mac render? I haven't seen it yet.