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jb and coldvein, I take it you're in the Seattle area? I moved here less than 2 years ago and I'm still trying to get used to the weather. :( Oh well, at least I have some good Vitamin D pills.

correct. lets all hang out and talk about depression some time.

unless you're that crazy kid in the back of my english class who is a psychopath. in which case i dont want to spend any time with you ever.
 
Hey Femmeworth,

I posted about my most recent experience with intensive outpatient therapy last month. I haven't been posting much, so it should be able to find some of the junk I wrote about my experience.

I've done two different programs, actually. The first, several years back, was focused on CBT skills. It was 2 weeks, 3 half days a week. I liked it alright at the time, but I've met a ton of people who have gone through it and have since soured on it a bit. I learned valuable stuff, but CBT now strikes me as...I don't even know what to say. I almost said "a more advanced technique," but that's not it. The second program was just more focused on very practical things, whereas CBT is a bit...cerebral? I dunno.

Anyway, I recently finished 10 days of full time Interpersonal and Social Rhythm Therapy. It was really fantastic. I recommended it to a friend in town and she is starting on my birthday (itiscomingup *coughcough*). I'm super excited for her.

I think the basic idea is to find out what programs are available and really think about what you need. Your regular therapist should be helpful here. So CBT really helps with negative thought patterns, Interpersonal Therapy deals with big transitions in your life and how you relate to others, Social Rhythm Therapy is about structuring your time, identifying things that make your mood better/worse. There are other kinds, too, or programs designed for men, women, eating disorders, bipolar disorder, etc. So you find a therapeutic approach, diagnosis, or group that seems most appropriate.

I'm happy to talk with you about any of my experiences with this stuff, Femmeworth. We can talk here, or drop me a line and we can find time to talk.
I posted a few weeks ago that I am reading a book on CBT. I'm not completely sold on it. I see my psychologist today and we're going to talk about it more. She looked into a local program for me.

I sent you an invite on Skype. :)

Edit: I have a tag now. When the hell did this happen? It's very fitting and I'm surprised I didn't get it sooner. >_>
 
I posted a few weeks ago that I am reading a book on CBT. I'm not completely sold on it. I see my psychologist today and we're going to talk about it more. She looked into a local program for me.

I sent you an invite on Skype. :)

Edit: I have a tag now. When the hell did this happen? It's very fitting and I'm surprised I didn't get it sooner. >_>

Haha! Nice tag!

I'll hop on Skype later.

I think CBT is amazing - both it and the IPSRT I did strike me as the kinda if things that would benefit ANYONE, mentally I'll or not.

CBT is the kind of thing you can largely pick up from a book, but it really helps to discuss it with someone else - share some thought logs. Even if you think you're really good at monitoring automatic thoughts, you WILL say something that you just accept as the truth, and an outside observer will call you on your bullshit.
 
its a gloomy guilt, isnt it.

shouts out to bagels.

Shout out right back at you!

this thread has gotten weird. There's all these new people and it offends me when I am not immediately recognized and treated as your God-King. Like, do you even know who I am?!?!?!
 
Haha! Nice tag!

I'll hop on Skype later.

I think CBT is amazing - both it and the IPSRT I did strike me as the kinda if things that would benefit ANYONE, mentally I'll or not.

CBT is the kind of thing you can largely pick up from a book, but it really helps to discuss it with someone else - share some thought logs. Even if you think you're really good at monitoring automatic thoughts, you WILL say something that you just accept as the truth, and an outside observer will call you on your bullshit.
I should be available to talk around 8.

I already do plenty of metathinking and fight off some mental distortions. I have trouble doing the logs because of my perfectionism, which results in me debating with myself whether a thought is actually a distortion and which one. I need a program or something.
 
I know the feeling. It can be hard to try when other people won't work with you. If you only tried every so often though, it would be a big benefit and would improve things a lot. Ask people about their interests. Or things you wouldn't ordinarily talk to that person about. So if you talk to your brother about sports all the time for example, ask him about the news or music. Just every so often, try and branch out the conversation as best you can.

That's understandable to be angry especially when counselors (at least here) are pretty tough on people if they miss an appointment.. Try not to dwell on it too much, and do something which relaxes you if you can.

Yeah, I just got out of class feeling a bit disappointed. I was working on a presentation with a girl and man I have a hard time finding the words in what I wanted to say as I try to explain the presentation. I even tried to talk to her by starting off "How's your classes going?", I don't remember what she said or even heard what she said. But I was like "same old" and she stated "yes". And that's it. Most of the time in class we were quite. I didn't bother to keep going because I had felt that she wasn't interested in talking. So I kept quiet.

I'm late in saying this but welcome to this thread. It's nice having you here. Thanks for replying to my problems.
 
Binged, as in binged drinking? Be careful White Man. I don't know what meds you were taking exactly, but don't self medicate.

Coke and alcohol. One of my most considerable problems is that most of my friends are people I really shouldn't hang out with, and most of the time I don't. I'm pretty isolated most of the time. I also stopped taking my meds about a month or so back.
 
My all-too common morning routine, a tale from this morning. By Smiley90.

Have class at 1030am.
The night before, go to be at 2am because that's the earliest anxiety usually lets me sleep.
Alarm rings at 9.
Bed is comfy, bed is safe.
As long as I stay in bed, nothing bad will happen.
Hit snooze every 9 minutes until 10am.
Decide it's too late to go to class now, feel terrible about being too fucked up to even get up on time.
Decide to sleep some more. Set alarm for 12.
Wake up at 12, hit snooze every 9 minutes until 1.30pm.
Fuck I have to get up now for my 230 class.
Browse GAF.
Realize it's getting late, rush out of house.
Barely make it to 230 class without coffee or food for the day.
Finally eat and drink something at 330 during break.
Feel anxious about having missed morning and stuff I have to do for the rest of the day.
Now.

The end.
 
Coke and alcohol. One of my most considerable problems is that most of my friends are people I really shouldn't hang out with, and most of the time I don't. I'm pretty isolated most of the time. I also stopped taking my meds about a month or so back.
...Cocaine!? Where did you meet these "friends"?
 
You know when you want to say a lot of things and you write 50,000 words worth of your misery and then you erase everything because you think it doesn't really matter? I mean, what I really want to know is, how is someone who endured and battled against depression for more than 20 years supposed to keep going? I'm either really apathetic or very suicidal. My doctor says I have to tell people I'm going crazy before the damage is done but how do I do it if it happens out of the blue? The smallest form of frustration can set me off and when I know it I've already done it. It sucks because people I love suffer from it and there's nothing I can do about it. I have tried everything but It's getting worse with time and the medications aren't working. I tried a new doctor (100% paid for, no health insurance covering it) because he's said to be the best one where I live and he suggested ECT but he wants me to try new medication and see what happens but his tl;dr is that I'm pretty fucked up from genetics to upbringind and I need intense therapy, so he also suggested CBT. Besides ranting, I want to know if anyone here has experience with ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) and/or CBT (cognitive behavior therapy). I'd be very thankful if any of you want to share the experience with me because I'd know about it from the point of view of the patient. Also if any of you want someone to talk to, I'd be glad to help.
 
My all-too common morning routine, a tale from this morning. By Smiley90.

Have class at 1030am.
The night before, go to be at 2am because that's the earliest anxiety usually lets me sleep.
Alarm rings at 9.
Bed is comfy, bed is safe.
As long as I stay in bed, nothing bad will happen.
Hit snooze every 9 minutes until 10am.
Decide it's too late to go to class now, feel terrible about being too fucked up to even get up on time.
Decide to sleep some more. Set alarm for 12.
Wake up at 12, hit snooze every 9 minutes until 1.30pm.
Fuck I have to get up now for my 230 class.
Browse GAF.
Realize it's getting late, rush out of house.
Barely make it to 230 class without coffee or food for the day.
Finally eat and drink something at 330 during break.
Feel anxious about having missed morning and stuff I have to do for the rest of the day.
Now.

The end.

Hey that reminds me of my days at the dorm. But good job you went to at least one class. That's a good accomplishment.
Keep it up, man.

You know when you want to say a lot of things and you write 50,000 words worth of your misery and then you erase everything because you think it doesn't really matter? I mean, what I really want to know is, how is someone who endured and battled against depression for more than 20 years supposed to keep going? I'm either really apathetic or very suicidal. My doctor says I have to tell people I'm going crazy before the damage is done but how do I do it if it happens out of the blue? The smallest form of frustration can set me off and when I know it I've already done it. It sucks because people I love suffer from it and there's nothing I can do about it. I have tried everything but It's getting worse with time and the medications aren't working. I tried a new doctor (100% paid for, no health insurance covering it) because he's said to be the best one where I live and he suggested ECT but he wants me to try new medication and see what happens but his tl;dr is that I'm pretty fucked up from genetics to upbringind and I need intense therapy, so he also suggested CBT. Besides ranting, I want to know if anyone here has experience with ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) and/or CBT (cognitive behavior therapy). I'd be very thankful if any of you want to share the experience with me because I'd know about it from the point of view of the patient. Also if any of you want someone to talk to, I'd be glad to help.

To be honest, I'm still fighting on keeping alive after close to 23 years of fighting against this shit. Hell, I was fighting against it a few hours ago.
I don't know how to answer the rest of your post, but to answer the question in bold...I try to keep fighting so that one day I might be a good author and actually become successful and some other private goals. I fight for the people I love and care about that actually give a damn about me. I try to fight for the love and respect I deserve. (That latter took years to even get me to admit that.)
I don't know if you have any goals or dreams in your life but...If you really think you got nothing to lose, then follow your crazy dreams or goals cause you feel like what else you got to lose, you know? And if it doesn't work out, then that next choice is up to you.

If this stuff keeps happening out of the blue, tell people anyways. That's just the nature of the illness and talk to it with someone you really trust.
I know you feel that the people around you are suffering from their depression, but they still are staying by you because they care. If they wanted to leave, they will leave. They're adults, so you can let them make that decision. But for the time being I'm sure they want to help you so try not to think if they're suffering or not. If they say they are suffering, that's a different matter.
 
My all-too common morning routine, a tale from this morning. By Smiley90.

Have class at 1030am.
The night before, go to be at 2am because that's the earliest anxiety usually lets me sleep.
Alarm rings at 9.
Bed is comfy, bed is safe.
As long as I stay in bed, nothing bad will happen.
Hit snooze every 9 minutes until 10am.
Decide it's too late to go to class now, feel terrible about being too fucked up to even get up on time.
Decide to sleep some more. Set alarm for 12.
Wake up at 12, hit snooze every 9 minutes until 1.30pm.
Fuck I have to get up now for my 230 class.
Browse GAF.
Realize it's getting late, rush out of house.
Barely make it to 230 class without coffee or food for the day.
Finally eat and drink something at 330 during break.
Feel anxious about having missed morning and stuff I have to do for the rest of the day.
Now.

The end.

I miss the dorm life... Enjoy it guy. You can't miss work.
 
=EverythingShiny;101478308]jb and coldvein, I take it you're in the Seattle area? I moved here less than 2 years ago and I'm still trying to get used to the weather. :( Oh well, at least I have some good Vitamin D pills.

Yup. The weather is a real bitch, believe me. After a while, you start to acclimate to it, though and at least our summers are nice. Usually.

correct. lets all hang out and talk about depression some time.

That would be like the most depressing hang out ever. ;)
 
I don't live in dorm... I live like 30mins away from campus by public transport :lol

I'd imagine it'd be easier to actually go to class if I lived at dorm due to being closer.

But don't get me wrong, 30mins isn't that far.

I miss the dorm life... Enjoy it guy. You can't miss work.

Same thing (basically) happened yesterday morning, where I missed work. :( On the bright side, my job is a "doesn't matter when you come in as long as the work gets done" kind of job, so I can pick my own hours and not coming in one morning can be made up for by staying later on other days.
 
Everyone should have a safe place where they can be safe.

To be honest, I'm still fighting on keeping alive after close to 23 years of fighting against this shit. Hell, I was fighting against it a few hours ago.
I don't know how to answer the rest of your post, but to answer the question in bold...I try to keep fighting so that one day I might be a good author and actually become successful and some other private goals. I fight for the people I love and care about that actually give a damn about me. I try to fight for the love and respect I deserve. (That latter took years to even get me to admit that.)
I don't know if you have any goals or dreams in your life but...If you really think you got nothing to lose, then follow your crazy dreams or goals cause you feel like what else you got to lose, you know? And if it doesn't work out, then that next choice is up to you.

If this stuff keeps happening out of the blue, tell people anyways. That's just the nature of the illness and talk to it with someone you really trust.
I know you feel that the people around you are suffering from their depression, but they still are staying by you because they care. If they wanted to leave, they will leave. They're adults, so you can let them make that decision. But for the time being I'm sure they want to help you so try not to think if they're suffering or not. If they say they are suffering, that's a different matter.

This is good stuff.

I might start volunteering at my local homeless shelter this year. I need to learn how to take the bus or start driving though.
 
My all-too common morning routine, a tale from this morning. By Smiley90.

Have class at 1030am.
The night before, go to be at 2am because that's the earliest anxiety usually lets me sleep.
Alarm rings at 9.
Bed is comfy, bed is safe.
As long as I stay in bed, nothing bad will happen.
Hit snooze every 9 minutes until 10am.
Decide it's too late to go to class now, feel terrible about being too fucked up to even get up on time.
Decide to sleep some more. Set alarm for 12.
Wake up at 12, hit snooze every 9 minutes until 1.30pm.
Fuck I have to get up now for my 230 class.
Browse GAF.
Realize it's getting late, rush out of house.
Barely make it to 230 class without coffee or food for the day.
Finally eat and drink something at 330 during break.
Feel anxious about having missed morning and stuff I have to do for the rest of the day.
Now.

The end.

Hey Smiley, I've had anxiety for quite a few years now and I'm doing a lot better. I can definitely hear you on the sleep thing though. What is your pre-bed routine?

I used to have such a hard time falling asleep, and I have a 12 hour commute/work day so I SHOULD be exhausted.

So here are some things I did to fix which has worked 99% for me.

1) No TV/PC/Phone/Game usage 30-45 minutes before sleep time. Too much stimulation. Also dont leave the TV on when you try to sleep either.
2) Take a 3mg of melatonin an hour before sleep time. This is NOT a silver bullet, but melatonin has to do with regulation of sleep patterns.
3) Read on my kindle for an hour before sleep time

Now I cant pinpoint if all of these are needed, but it works for me. Not getting enough sleep would make my anxiety worse so getting a good sleep rhythm going can be super helpful. Good luck!
 
This is good stuff.

I might start volunteering at my local homeless shelter this year. I need to learn how to take the bus or start driving though.

Thanks!

That sounds like a good goal. I kinda want to help volunteer as well at some point when I'm not scared of interacting with others.
Going to church has been slowly helping since I kinda have to by default interact with others.
 
My all-too common morning routine, a tale from this morning. By Smiley90.

Have class at 1030am.
The night before, go to be at 2am because that's the earliest anxiety usually lets me sleep.
Alarm rings at 9.
Bed is comfy, bed is safe.
As long as I stay in bed, nothing bad will happen.
Hit snooze every 9 minutes until 10am.
Decide it's too late to go to class now, feel terrible about being too fucked up to even get up on time.
Decide to sleep some more. Set alarm for 12.
Wake up at 12, hit snooze every 9 minutes until 1.30pm.
Fuck I have to get up now for my 230 class.
Browse GAF.
Realize it's getting late, rush out of house.
Barely make it to 230 class without coffee or food for the day.
Finally eat and drink something at 330 during break.
Feel anxious about having missed morning and stuff I have to do for the rest of the day.
Now.

The end.
You know what might help? Coming on the IRC once in a while to talk to me! >(
I used to have such a hard time falling asleep, and I have a 12 hour commute/work day so I SHOULD be exhausted.

So here are some things I did to fix which has worked 99% for me.

1) No TV/PC/Phone/Game usage 30-45 minutes before sleep time. Too much stimulation. Also dont leave the TV on when you try to sleep either.
2) Take a 3mg of melatonin an hour before sleep time. This is NOT a silver bullet, but melatonin has to do with regulation of sleep patterns.
3) Read on my kindle for an hour before sleep time
The first two are great, the last one wasn't for me. Reading just made me think more.

I'll throw out 4) Meditate. It's not easy but there is an entire GAF thread for help. It has done wonders for my sleeping.
 
Anyone have any experience with EMDR or Lifespan Integration? I'm seeing a new therapist and these are two techniques she's mentioned using. In addition to anxiety and depression, I have several medical concerns so we're focusing a lot on the mind-body connection.
 
Anyone have any experience with EMDR or Lifespan Integration? I'm seeing a new therapist and these are two techniques she's mentioned using. In addition to anxiety and depression, I have several medical concerns so we're focusing a lot on the mind-body connection.

I had EMDR done to me on my first therapist. She explained its used in post traumatic stress disorder and helps resolve suppressed memories. I didnt think it helped at all for me.
 
I had EMDR done to me on my first therapist. She explained its used in post traumatic stress disorder and helps resolve suppressed memories. I didnt think it helped at all for me.

I've had it too, I think I was bit too skeptical for it to do anything for me. There are a lot of studies that say it works, but it only made me feel kinda weird.
 
Hey Smiley, I've had anxiety for quite a few years now and I'm doing a lot better. I can definitely hear you on the sleep thing though. What is your pre-bed routine?

I used to have such a hard time falling asleep, and I have a 12 hour commute/work day so I SHOULD be exhausted.

So here are some things I did to fix which has worked 99% for me.

1) No TV/PC/Phone/Game usage 30-45 minutes before sleep time. Too much stimulation. Also dont leave the TV on when you try to sleep either.
2) Take a 3mg of melatonin an hour before sleep time. This is NOT a silver bullet, but melatonin has to do with regulation of sleep patterns.
3) Read on my kindle for an hour before sleep time

Now I cant pinpoint if all of these are needed, but it works for me. Not getting enough sleep would make my anxiety worse so getting a good sleep rhythm going can be super helpful. Good luck!

Thanks for the feedback, ew@12h of commute/work day, wow. I don't know how that's even possible with an 8h work day oO. the fuck? I owe you to at least respond to each point:

1) yeah.... but thing is, once I DO go to bed, I can usually sleep reasonably fast. I'm just not tired before around 1am/2am. And I use my laptop to distract myself from the anxiety... if that makes sense. Shutting it off "prematurely" results in me risking having the anxiety rise up stronger and even less sleep. Makes sense? kind of? :P

2) mhmmmmm might look into that.

3) I've lost any kind of interest in reading, sadly. :( Maybe once I'm done school... I have so much to read for school that reading outside of that brings me very little enjoyment nowadays. Thanks though! :x

You know what might help? Coming on the IRC once in a while to talk to me! >(

The first two are great, the last one wasn't for me. Reading just made me think more.

I'll throw out 4) Meditate. It's not easy but there is an entire GAF thread for help. It has done wonders for my sleeping.

Yeah well I can't do that when I'm sleeping! :P

4) I'll see how therapy(CBT)/meds go for now... I find it hard enough to motivate myself for ANYTHING, so I'm not sure how I'll get myself motivated for meditation... :/
 
Anyone have any experience with EMDR or Lifespan Integration? I'm seeing a new therapist and these are two techniques she's mentioned using. In addition to anxiety and depression, I have several medical concerns so we're focusing a lot on the mind-body connection.

I've done EMDR and it was weird, the idea of it working.. I could hardly imagine. But for me it worked wonders. Really amazing. We worked on very specific memories and they no longer bother me like they used to. I would recommend it to anyone to at least try and give it a fair shot, nothing is lost if it doesn't work. (That is, if it fits your problems). If you have questions you can PM if you want to.
 
Yeah, I just got out of class feeling a bit disappointed. I was working on a presentation with a girl and man I have a hard time finding the words in what I wanted to say as I try to explain the presentation. I even tried to talk to her by starting off "How's your classes going?", I don't remember what she said or even heard what she said. But I was like "same old" and she stated "yes". And that's it. Most of the time in class we were quite. I didn't bother to keep going because I had felt that she wasn't interested in talking. So I kept quiet.

I'm late in saying this but welcome to this thread. It's nice having you here. Thanks for replying to my problems.

That's OK, presentations are hard for everybody. I had one presentation on Hamlet, where I'm still not sure if what came out of my mouth actually made any sense! haha. It's a common thing and maybe she was under pressure and didn't feel like talking. In any case, that doesn't matter too much, it's a success that you made the effort. Some people may not feel like talking and that's alright. The important thing is, you put you put yourself out there and it was a success. Any disappointment is really her fault.

Thank you! it's nice to be here, and anytime, you are always welcome :)
 
Link-back

Depression is a Disease of Civilization (TEDx Talk)
NeoGAF-topic: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=101575628

http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/Depression-Is-a-Disease-of-Civi

Steve Ilardi earned his Ph.D. in clinical psychology from Duke University in 1995, and has since served on the faculties of the University of Colorado and (presently) the University of Kansas. The author of over 40 professional articles on mental illness, Dr. Ilardi is a nationally recognized expert on depression. His work has been honored by the American Psychological Association’s prestigious Blau Award for early career contributions to the field, and his research on the neuroscience of depression has been funded by the National Institutes of Mental Health (NIMH).

Dr. Ilardi has also received several major teaching awards in recognition of his dynamic, engaging classroom presence. Recently, he was selected from a pool of over 2,000 instructors as the recipient of the school’s highest instructional honor, the HOPE Award for teaching excellence. He also maintains an active clinical practice, and has treated several hundred depressed patients over the course of his career. Dr. Ilardi lives in Lawrence, Kansas with his wife, Maria and daughter, Abby. The author of The Depression Cure: The 6-Step Program to Beat Depression Without Drugs.

Very interesting talk from an expert in the field. Didn't know Depression was so prevalent in modern society.
 
Hello everyone. I lurked this thread since the beginning. I thought I would share my thoughts and experiences.

I have anxiety. I get nervous in new situations, doing new things, and dealing with uncertain outcomes. I came to terms with this when I went on a trip to Seattle with my girlfriend last December. I spent the entire three days worrying and feeling nervous (e.g. what are we going to eat, where are we going to park, do I know how to drive home, etc.). It was an awful experience. The best part of the trip was when I got home and jumped into my own bed!

I am in the final year of my Computer Science degree, and planning on graduating in December. I am looking for a coop / internship for the summer, and I am having a difficult time finding a placement. I have applied to over 80 positions, and I understand that quantity < quality of submissions, but it is still hard to face the rejection. I had 12 interviews, and I haven't been successful so far. I also came to terms that I do not have a career path, and that most of my decisions regarding school have been made without much forethought or planning.

Another issue I am dealing with is the fact that I am not good at programming. In fourth year, I am unable to do more than simple programs. I felt behind in every way compared to my friends. I had to deal with the fear of not being able to succeed in this path, and to be known as a failure. This is especially painful when I consider how many of my high school friends have began making strides to their futures. Being known as the smart guy and 'most likely to succeed' guy in high school really gets me down considering how I am struggling now. I feel ashamed.

I have a problem with watching porn, surfing the web, and playing video games. I would spent most of my days off alternating between these activities. The amount of time I wasted is mind numbing. I have lost my self control and my self esteem.

Since January 1st, I have been dealing with these problems, as I am not avoiding them any longer. I have decided to stop watching porn and playing video games. Perhaps one day in the future, when I have self control, I can go back to video games. I have continued to apply for summer jobs, tailoring my Cover Letter for each job, and not placing too much optimism on the result. Worst comes to worse, I can take summer courses while working my at my old job at a grocery store. I have bought a Java programming book for beginners. I am working through the book in my spare time, and I plan to finish the whole book (including all the exercises) buy the end of April.

I don't know if I will succeed in life. I feel like I have fallen off the path of success, and it's difficult to maintain motivation and inspiration. I am constantly reminded of my inadequacy, and I know I am letting down my family by not succeeding. I want to thank everyone for posting their issues and fears. It's comforting to know that I am not alone in this feeling. Perhaps one day I can look back at this time in my life as a turning point. Let's hope.
 
Hello everyone. I lurked this thread since the beginning. I thought I would share my thoughts and experiences.

I have anxiety. I get nervous in new situations, doing new things, and dealing with uncertain outcomes. I came to terms with this when I went on a trip to Seattle with my girlfriend last December. I spent the entire three days worrying and feeling nervous (e.g. what are we going to eat, where are we going to park, do I know how to drive home, etc.). It was an awful experience. The best part of the trip was when I got home and jumped into my own bed!

I am in the final year of my Computer Science degree, and planning on graduating in December. I am looking for a coop / internship for the summer, and I am having a difficult time finding a placement. I have applied to over 80 positions, and I understand that quantity < quality of submissions, but it is still hard to face the rejection. I had 12 interviews, and I haven't been successful so far. I also came to terms that I do not have a career path, and that most of my decisions regarding school have been made without much forethought or planning.

Another issue I am dealing with is the fact that I am not good at programming. In fourth year, I am unable to do more than simple programs. I felt behind in every way compared to my friends. I had to deal with the fear of not being able to succeed in this path, and to be known as a failure. This is especially painful when I consider how many of my high school friends have began making strides to their futures. Being known as the smart guy and 'most likely to succeed' guy in high school really gets me down considering how I am struggling now. I feel ashamed.

I have a problem with watching porn, surfing the web, and playing video games. I would spent most of my days off alternating between these activities. The amount of time I wasted is mind numbing. I have lost my self control and my self esteem.

Since January 1st, I have been dealing with these problems, as I am not avoiding them any longer. I have decided to stop watching porn and playing video games. Perhaps one day in the future, when I have self control, I can go back to video games. I have continued to apply for summer jobs, tailoring my Cover Letter for each job, and not placing too much optimism on the result. Worst comes to worse, I can take summer courses while working my at my old job at a grocery store. I have bought a Java programming book for beginners. I am working through the book in my spare time, and I plan to finish the whole book (including all the exercises) buy the end of April.

I don't know if I will succeed in life. I feel like I have fallen off the path of success, and it's difficult to maintain motivation and inspiration. I am constantly reminded of my inadequacy, and I know I am letting down my family by not succeeding. I want to thank everyone for posting their issues and fears. It's comforting to know that I am not alone in this feeling. Perhaps one day I can look back at this time in my life as a turning point. Let's hope.

Hi there :)
I'm totally with you on the anxiety with the unknown. I often share your exact thoughts where I get hooked on the small details like parking or what to eat. It might be worth it to try and approach new situations gradually. Maybe you could go to a new restaurant one week, and try an entirely new activity the following week. I know how rough the anxiety and things can be when you feel on edge. If you try things gradually, it might be easier to get used to the anxiety over time. A big trip like that, is stressful for anybody!

Keep pressing on with the applications for internships. Don't think of it as a number of rejections, but each application is getting you one closer to the internship you'll eventually accept. I'm sure something will turn up for you. Try not to worry too much about the career planning. A lot of people don't have a career path at that age, or end up working in entirely different fields from their majors. You've still got plenty of time to think about your career goals, have you got something you'd really like to do at all?

I am also doing a computing degree and am in the same boat (programming is not my friend haha) Try and see if your tutors can help, and I think GAF has a really good programming thread that might cover the language you use. In any, case though that doesn't make you a failure in anyway. You can still succeed even though programming is not what you are best at. Even if you changed fields tomorrow, that wouldn't make you a failure. People obtain success at different times in all sorts of fields so you aren't and won't be a failure I guarantee it.

You have nothing to feel ashamed about, everybody struggles! try not to focus on what other people think, and instead focus on taking the steps that will make you happy. You are still going to succeed.

Congratulations on stopping those things, that's awesome progress! Getting out there with the applications is a great start and good luck with the Java book :D

You will succeed in life. You can't really fall off the path of success. People can get sidetracked and the path may change but you can always get back on it. You've already done well making those changes so you are on the right track.

In terms of motivation, try and get in a routine, then it becomes a habit and even if you don't feel particularly motivated, you'll still step forward. Your'e not inadequate at all and certainly aren't alone. Sometimes it doesn't seem like it, but everybody has struggles or deviates slightly from their path. Hang in there, and I'm sure this will be your turning point.
 
Feeling extremely burnt out on everything right now, absolutely fatigued and I feel like there is nothing left in my brain. Just want to sleep forever right. At least that is better then wanting to punch everything.
 
I wish I was somebody else. Someone that's as far away from me as is possible.

Somebody I knew died in a crash recently. Guy was only 23. Sucks that somebody who lived life to the full has ended up dead so young. Then you've got somebody like me that wishes he was dead everyday, and yet I am the one that gets to continue 'living'.
 
Hi guys, I just saw this thread and thought I'd write some stuff out. I think it'll help just to get it out of my brain.

The anxiety I have generally deals with those "what ifs" in the future. And to calm it down I often adjust how I behave, although I've been much better recently at combating that. Otherwise my anxiety usually deals with sickness and worrying about getting sick.

But that's not what I got hit with last week. I've gone the better part of a year without a panic/anxiety attack. By all accounts I'm off on the right foot. I'm 26 years old, have a 1 bedroom apt, a college degree, and a (unrelated to my degree) solid job with my family's business. First the attack started out as a result of being woken up at 4am during the week by my neighbor upstairs, almost every day. I talked to him to quiet down and it seems to have worked somewhat. But I went out and got earplugs and leave my fan on nightly to create some white noise. Then from there my thoughts mutated into kind of a quarter-life crisis.

I'm not exactly sure why it came about, but it made me scrutinize where my life is compared to my friends and others. I'm doing just fine, and I'm even considering going back to school for some more education. Once I graduated a couple years ago I thought that life would be on the up and up...and technically it might still be. I don't have anything really weighing me down. I guess I got nervous about a degree of stagnation. I was able to calm myself a bit today but even now I get the odd moment where my heart just beats like drums.

Anyone else feel this way? I'm sure it's not that uncommon among people my age...
 
Hi guys, I just saw this thread and thought I'd write some stuff out. I think it'll help just to get it out of my brain.

The anxiety I have generally deals with those "what ifs" in the future. And to calm it down I often adjust how I behave, although I've been much better recently at combating that. Otherwise my anxiety usually deals with sickness and worrying about getting sick.

But that's not what I got hit with last week. I've gone the better part of a year without a panic/anxiety attack. By all accounts I'm off on the right foot. I'm 26 years old, have a 1 bedroom apt, a college degree, and a (unrelated to my degree) solid job with my family's business. First the attack started out as a result of being woken up at 4am during the week by my neighbor upstairs, almost every day. I talked to him to quiet down and it seems to have worked somewhat. But I went out and got earplugs and leave my fan on nightly to create some white noise. Then from there my thoughts mutated into kind of a quarter-life crisis.

I'm not exactly sure why it came about, but it made me scrutinize where my life is compared to my friends and others. I'm doing just fine, and I'm even considering going back to school for some more education. Once I graduated a couple years ago I thought that life would be on the up and up...and technically it might still be. I don't have anything really weighing me down. I guess I got nervous about a degree of stagnation. I was able to calm myself a bit today but even now I get the odd moment where my heart just beats like drums.

Anyone else feel this way? I'm sure it's not that uncommon among people my age...

Yes.

I am 28 and have so far not achieved very much in life at all. I don't have a degree and work a part-time retail job. Still live at home with the parents.

I've been wondering what exactly I should be doing, but don't have much of an idea. I've been thinking of going travelling, but if I did, I'd be going alone. Don't know really why I'd do it, but my life's so stagnant now that I honestly don't know what else to do. I don't even have a career I'd like to pursue as yet. And if I do find something I'd like to do, then I'll probably have to go back into education to get there.

The years are racing by, and time's definitely not on my side anymore. Sometimes it feels like I am watching my life from a third-person perspective - watching somebody drifting aimlessly through his life, and no matter how much I will him to take action, he just continues to watch it pass him by nonchalantly.
 
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I already do plenty of metathinking and fight off some mental distortions. I have trouble doing the logs because of my perfectionism, which results in me debating with myself whether a thought is actually a distortion and which one. I need a program or something.

My psychiatrist have been telling me to go to a group therapy to treat my anxiety for years, but I dismissed it as some meeting where everyone just tried to comfort each other and tell you things you want to hear. That, and being in a room full of people that will have their attention focused on me is what I feared the most, so it took me awhile to finally consider it.

I just started going to the introductory sessions last week and it already feels like a huge load has been lifted off my back. I'm not exaggerating here; On my first day in the meeting, it felt like I was on free-fall for three hours and just trying my damnedest to keep my composure. My anxiety is that bad. I just felt like total crap afterwards. The session yesterday was mostly about emotions and feelings, and why we behave a certain way during stressful situations. It made me question why the hell I was feeling like that after the session. Obviously I asked that question to myself a million times before, but something in the discussion just clicked with me, and I don't think I'll be feeling that overreaction I had in the first meeting ever again. I think I'll be able to handle presenting myself in social situations better in the future. And that's not blind optimism speaking, honest!

And that was just my second meeting with the group. I'm not even in the anxiety group yet. I'm honestly looking forward to the next group session, and I'm not the type to look forward on any social events. You and everyone else with anxiety/depression and other disorders should give group CBT a shot. Thinking about how to control these things by yourself isn't as effective because your personal bias against yourself will be in the way.
 
I had a quiz today. It consists of fill-ins and multiple choices. I was hoping for a majority of multiple choice questions than fill-ins. But it was the opposite. I did bad on the quiz. What's sad was the quiz was based off on our class notes. My notes sucks because I'm having a hard time writing what the instructor is saying. Whenever I write, in few seconds I forget what he said. My other problem in his lecture was knowing what information were/are important to write down. I asked him that my note taking sucks, and was big mistake on my part for saying that I barely wrote anything down. I did write something, but it's not looking good. He told me to email him about it as a reminder so he would ask students to get their notes. I was happy a little bit, but when I walked out I felt disappointed in myself. The instructor is pretty chill dude. If I fail that class, it's my fault. My gpa is 1.66, and I don't want to fail my classes. I want a new brain :(
 
I had a quiz today. It consists of fill-ins and multiple choices. I was hoping for a majority of multiple choice questions than fill-ins. But it was the opposite. I did bad on the quiz. What's sad was the quiz was based off on our class notes. My notes sucks because I'm having a hard time writing what the instructor is saying. Whenever I write, in few seconds I forget what he said. My other problem in his lecture was knowing what information were/are important to write down. I asked him that my note taking sucks, and was big mistake on my part for saying that I barely wrote anything down. I did write something, but it's not looking good. He told me to email him about it as a reminder so he would ask students to get their notes. I was happy a little bit, but when I walked out I felt disappointed in myself. The instructor is pretty chill dude. If I fail that class, it's my fault. My gpa is 1.66, and I don't want to fail my classes. I want a new brain :(

It's OK, we all have quizzes we could have done better on from time to time. Is there anyway you could re-take it at all? It's a good thing you took the steps to see him about the notes. One thing that works for me is to try and note down as much as possible.

I don't know exactly how the American education system works unfortunately, but would it be possible for you to look through somebody elses notes, or record the lectures at all? That helps a lot of people here. Don't take it too heart too much, it's only one quiz and I'm sure you can find a way to make it up :)

Hi guys, I just saw this thread and thought I'd write some stuff out. I think it'll help just to get it out of my brain.

The anxiety I have generally deals with those "what ifs" in the future. And to calm it down I often adjust how I behave, although I've been much better recently at combating that. Otherwise my anxiety usually deals with sickness and worrying about getting sick.

But that's not what I got hit with last week. I've gone the better part of a year without a panic/anxiety attack. By all accounts I'm off on the right foot. I'm 26 years old, have a 1 bedroom apt, a college degree, and a (unrelated to my degree) solid job with my family's business. First the attack started out as a result of being woken up at 4am during the week by my neighbor upstairs, almost every day. I talked to him to quiet down and it seems to have worked somewhat. But I went out and got earplugs and leave my fan on nightly to create some white noise. Then from there my thoughts mutated into kind of a quarter-life crisis.

I'm not exactly sure why it came about, but it made me scrutinize where my life is compared to my friends and others. I'm doing just fine, and I'm even considering going back to school for some more education. Once I graduated a couple years ago I thought that life would be on the up and up...and technically it might still be. I don't have anything really weighing me down. I guess I got nervous about a degree of stagnation. I was able to calm myself a bit today but even now I get the odd moment where my heart just beats like drums.

Anyone else feel this way? I'm sure it's not that uncommon among people my age...

Hey there! I often feel exactly the same way. I often obsess about the future or things that might or might not happen. Congratulations on fighting those changing behaviors though, that is a really good step forward. :D

I know precisely what you mean. I often think about if I'm, making the best use of my time, am I in the position I should be in and that sort of thing. I think you should focus on the fact that you are doing really well. You are definitely going in the right direction. Try not to compare yourself too others too much, there is rarely anything beneficial to be gained from it.

Perhaps something you could do to help with the stagnation is to look at some goals you could set yourself which would stretch you a little.. Learn a language, or try and pick up a new skill that might help combat the stagnation somewhat.
If you have something specific in mind, I think going to school could be a great idea to prevent the stagnation.

Yes.

I am 28 and have so far not achieved very much in life at all. I don't have a degree and work a part-time retail job. Still live at home with the parents.

I've been wondering what exactly I should be doing, but don't have much of an idea. I've been thinking of going travelling, but if I did, I'd be going alone. Don't know really why I'd do it, but my life's so stagnant now that I honestly don't know what else to do. I don't even have a career I'd like to pursue as yet. And if I do find something I'd like to do, then I'll probably have to go back into education to get there.

The years are racing by, and time's definitely not on my side anymore. Sometimes it feels like I am watching my life from a third-person perspective - watching somebody drifting aimlessly through his life, and no matter how much I will him to take action, he just continues to watch it pass him by nonchalantly.

I think it's worth noting that you have a part-time retail job though which is in fact an achievement especially nowadays when many people are out of work. That income will be a good starting block if nothing else, and you can is something to put on your resume

I wouldn't worry about your age too much. Many people do not know what they want to be perfectly at 28, or even at 40. There are many writers for instance who started in their 50s Try and think if there is anything you would like to do, or even just try, and work from there in therms of the career.. There's absolutely nothing wrong with travelling alone. Do it for you, visit places you'd like to see and make your own experiences. That can still be really fulfilling. Education would bring it's own experiences too so even if you did go back to school, you;d be able to learn and break out of stagnation which is never a bad thing.

I know it feels like time isn't on your side, but at 28, you still have plenty of time to turn things around. Motivation is tough, but try and focus on the results and fulfillment you'd get from things like school or traveling to encourage you to do them.



Feeling extremely burnt out on everything right now, absolutely fatigued and I feel like there is nothing left in my brain. Just want to sleep forever right. At least that is better then wanting to punch everything.

I'm sorry to hear you are going through such a rough time at the minute. Try and get some rest if you can. What is it that's bothering you in particular,(if you don't mind talking about it) is there anyway things could be made less stressful for you?
 
Why do people suck so bad at understanding depression? To feel like shit and then have someone wave it off or something else is just so crushing. I don't get it, even people who go to those like trevor and suicide prevention things seem to be utterly clueless when it comes to depression or what it means. It feels like having one of those trust exercises where they catch you but instead they miss and smack face first into the pavement.

I am tired of living like this... This pain, sadness, and loneliness is too much... *slides back into the shadows*

I feel ya man... I feel ya...
 
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