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[BrokenEchelon]

I think PS4 sales will pick up once Japanese devs start migrating to it more. Dark Souls II and Persona 5 are still slated only for the PS3 over there, and as long titles like that stay on last-gen, I don't see many people over there having a good reason to get one.

It's too bad it isn't doing better out of the gate though.

 

[1st Course]

I'm honestly trying to think of titles we'd known about by this point in 2007 and all I come up with are:

GT 6
Gundam Musou
Final Fantasy XIII
MGS4
White Knight Story
Ridge Racer
Valkyria Chronicles
Eternal Sonata
Monster Hunter 3 (lol)

RE5 too

http://www.ign.com/articles/2005/07/20/resident-evil-5-announced

JP developers did announce support for PS3 early. FFXIII, Versus, RE5, MGS4, GT5 and more were all announced before the system even went on sale. Problem is that all of them took forever to release.

 

[prag16]

Is PS4 more or less readily available in Japan? Because if it is than that's a really, really bad sign and if it isn't I'm starting to wonder where on earth (literally) Sony ships all those PS4 units.

Anecdotal, but I was in my local Best Buy yesterday, and they had 8 PS4s sitting on the shelf. A few days before that my nearest Walmart had 4 sitting there. Is the U.S. finally getting more persistent stock overall or was this a chance occurrence?

 

[Chris1964]

I realize it sounds hilarious and completely insane, but if there's any country where the XB1 could realistically outsell the PS4 it's Japan :lol

USA and UK are the only countries with that chance. Japan now, really?

 

[TheChaos0]

If you think Sony's intention is to write off the JP market, I have a bridge to sell to you...

I would say they are really focused on the West year. I almost feel like saying let's wait until TSG. Haha....

 

[u_neek]

Are any of those really gonna help much?

Deep Down could do well, but afaik it's not released until the end of the year.

 

[BishopLamont]

Sorry, I meant hardware sales.

Sustained hardware trends (positive or negative) are obviously very important for a system.

3DS is in a position where saturation is a high possibility so software is whats more important and the 3DS is doing well weekly on that front. Its selling solely on core gamers, none of that tough generation type of games to boost its hardware.

 

[vinnygambini]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103852647&postcount=586

The real comparison for PS4 is this.

PS3 looking good on that chart. Can't say the same for PS4.

PSVita gaining significant traction but honestly, hardware sales on all fronts are disappointing.

 

[RalchAC]

That's true, hopefully it'll keep it afloat. I'm not to confident that a prologue will sell much to be honest though.

Soul Sacrifice - 92.396 (normal) + 22.050 (double pack).

Those double pack sales are 11.025*2 or 22.050*2?

from now and until the next PS4 exclusive game that japan cares about releases, in which range do you guys think the PS4 hardware will position itself'?

is 11k-13k doable? and if it it stays there, is that decent/solid or bad?

11-13k is quite bad tbh.

Vita soft doesn't see to be selling.
3ds soft is selling well. Hardware needs a revision to boost up sales.
PS4- I'm not sure what is going on; I didn't expect it too drop-off so quickly.

I'm very curious about Youkai Watch, as in i want toplay the game. Eventually I will probably buy a Jap 3DS.

PSVita software seems to be selling "well enough" to guarantee more support from the mid and small developers that work on the system. Most games don't have legs because they're not the kind of games that have good legs.

Do we know if God Eater 2 has already reached 400k?

 

[BlackJace]

Is zero better than zero?

Heh, I suppose you're right..

 

[Pooya]

Is zero better than zero?

bu but xbone is getting ff15 and KH3! 360 even is having Dark Souls 2 this time in Japan! WiiU 3rd party literally is zero. lol

 

[Metallix87]

If you think Sony's intention is to write off the JP market, I have a bridge to sell to you...

Uh, I think you may want to rethink your stance, given what's going on with PS4 and Vita.

 

[darkwing]

if the Vita is outselling the PS4, you really can say console gaming is dead in Japan




unless MS buys MH, KH, FFVII Remake etc...

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Is it time to make a chalkboard for PS4 yet?

The PS4 doesn't need a chalkboard. Japan needs a chalkboard.

 

[shinra-bansho]

If you think Sony's intention is to write off the JP market, I have a bridge to sell to you...

There's no intention to "write off" the Japanese market. Sales are sales, systems are revenue sources. At the same time, launching later in the country was clear signal of its diminished importance relative to other markets.

 

[michaelius]

Tell me how you feel about the narrative changing from "The ps4 will outsell ps3 and save Japan" to "It doesn't matter if it sells badly because 'Murica, Yurop and where else will 3rd parties go?"

Where have that narrative changed ? Ps4 is still going to outsell PS3.

 

[StreetsAhead]

Deep Down could do well, but afaik it's not released until the end of the year.

I thought it was F2P? Which implies no retail release...

 

[badgenome]

If you think Sony's intention is to write off the JP market, I have a bridge to sell to you...

It may not be their intention, but they're doing a good job of it anyway.

 

[terrisus]

about the PS4..

you can only sell what you have in stock.

Come on man.. It's pretty obvious from reports it wasn't that supply constrained.

Time for the return of Vinnk's Village?...

 

[Moor-Angol]

20./29. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} (¥7.770) - 6.005 / 682.428 <80-100%> (-1%)

MGS4 - 706,461

 

[darkside31337]

They're not "writing off" Japan.

It simply isn't a priority. And obviously they've made the right call.

 

[spatenfloot]

it may be possible since MS has a huge warchest and it may be the reason why we haven't seen any Japanese games for the PS4 since MS has bought exclusives just like TF

No, you haven't seen them because there aren't any next gen Japanese games yet.

 

[Trago]

Those Japanese developers on handhelds and mobile should really start making games on consoles.

 

[zroid]

go Yokai Watch!!

 

[Metallix87]

They're not "writing off" Japan.

It simply isn't a priority. And obviously they've made the right call.

That depends on who you ask.

 

[HardRojo]

Poor numbers for PS4, guess Japan will only be interested in it come next year when Japan oriented games are released.

Great to see Vita holding up well after many weeks, that's a good sign.

 

[RM8]

3DS doing Vita numbers makes me sad. I miss 3DS being in perpetual beast mode.

 

[Lady Gaia]

I'm surprised at the strong negativity about PS4 sales here. Adjusted per capita, that's equivalent to more than 350k here in a month. It's certainly not huge, but it would seem reasonable if you assume launch demand has been satisfied and this is a steady run rate until more compelling titles reach the market.

 

[jett]

PS4 bomba.

Japan bomba.

Videos games rosebudded.

 

[Namikaze]

I wish SS had a bigger opening.

PS4 drop was expected but it's still at the top for now. Vita sales are higher than I expected.

 

[Tripon]

Uh, I think you may want to rethink your stance, given what's going on with PS4 and Vita.

I would say they are really focused on the West year. I almost feel like saying let's wait until TSG. Haha....

There's no intention to "write off" the Japanese market. Sales are sales, systems are revenue sources. At the same time, launching later in the country was clear signal of its diminished importance relative to other markets.

It may not be their intention, but they're doing a good job of it anyway.

Right, Sony being played the hand they're dealt with. But to imply that Sony's strategy was to just ignore Japan like the post I responded to, that I find hard to believe.

 

[kinggroin]

I'm surprised at the strong negativity about PS4 sales here. Adjusted per capita, that's equivalent to more than 350k here in a month. It's certainly not huge, but it would seem reasonable if you assume launch demand has been satisfied and this is a steady run rate until more compelling titles reach the market.

A steady run rate?

Quite the assumption considering the trajectory.

 

[TheChaos0]

Those double pack sales are 11.025*2 or 22.050*2?



11-13k is quite bad tbh.



PSVita software seems to be selling "well enough" to guarantee more support from the mid and small developers that work on the system. Most games don't have legs because they're not the kind of games that have good legs.

Do we know if God Eater 2 has already reached 400k?

Those are individual SKU's so 22k x 2, if you want to know how many individual games were sold.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Yes, the return of PlayStation Domination is nigh! Praise SmokyDave!

 

[darkside31337]

That depends on who you ask.

I'm not really sure how this is up for argument. They prioritized other regions first, its why Japan was the last major release out of all the regions in the first place.

They honestly should have probably waited even longer. It was obvious to everybody that the content isnt there yet. Don't know how the math works but I would have to imagine that they're making more money on every console sold in the US/EU at this point then they would be in Japan.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

That depends on who you ask.

Anyone that looks at the industry could tell you that is what is happening IMO .
This has been happening since the PS3 days and going to keep on going this way .

 

[Hoodbury]

Anecdotal, but I was in my local Best Buy yesterday, and they had 8 PS4s sitting on the shelf. A few days before that my nearest Walmart had 4 sitting there. Is the U.S. finally getting more persistent stock overall or was this a chance occurrence?

Hmm, if you go to bestbuy.com and look at PS4 availability in your area does it say your store has them? My 25 mile radius of Best Buys never seem to have any. I wonder how accurate that is and if I should just go to the store by my house every once in awhile to see if they have any?

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Monster Hunter Frontier still exists for Vita: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201403/12049736.html

It looks like it'll share the same servers with PS3, and PC players.

can't wait for it to be released so we can see the

Spoiler

200

unit hardware increase

Capcom seems to be putting some effort into this port, it has potential, sharing servers with PC is a good thing.

Imagine playing Frontier on Wii U. HELLO IS ANYONE THERE :lol

 

[Morfeo]

Terrible, but expected low numbers for the ps4. As long as there is no games for it, it will continue to drop imo.

 

[kswiston]

Considering the fact that all of those expensive money-hatted/fully funded 360 JRPGs were failures in Japan, I'm not sure why people are expecting Microsoft to repeat that move. Vesperia and Star Ocean 4 were way down compared to previous entries. Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, the Last Remnant, Infinite Undiscovery, etc didn't due well enough to warrant a second game (unless you count the Blue Dragon portable spin offs). Microsoft only managed an extra 1M units over the zero effort they put into the OG Xbox, and the PS3 completely claimed the console JRPG mantle by the end of 2009 despite all the maneuvering. What incentive do they have to bother with Japan?

 

[cafemomo]

Look at that 360 bump

Rise to the heavens my cheeseburger!

 

[Tripon]

Capcom seems to be putting some effort into this port, it has potential, sharing servers with PC is a good thing.

Imagine playing Frontier on Wii U. HELLO IS ANYONE THERE :lol

At least Wii U still has 3G, although a recent interview in Eurogamer with Ryozo Tsujimoto. heavily implies 4G isn't coming to Wii U.

http://t.co/KgQHZIDmyz

 

[megabytecr]

First three weeks performances of the most recent system launches accordingto Famitsu

3DS (¥25.000) - LD: February 26th, 2011*
374.764
209.623 ( -44.1%)
96.463


PSV (¥24.980 / ¥29.980) - LD: December 17th, 2011*
324.859
72.479 ( -77.7%)
42.648


Wii U (¥26.250 / ¥31.500) - LD: December 8th, 2012
308.570
130.653 ( -57.7%)
122.356


PS4 LD: (¥41.979 / ¥46.179) - February 22nd, 2014
322.083
52.697 (-83.6%)
30.766

Wow, big drop for PS4. What is coming for it?

 

[Darius]

software sells hardware and games like Knack and Killzone aren´t exactly games that appeal to the Japanese market. Knack while developed by SCEJ has the same issues as Puppeteer which was a SCEJ game as well, that it simply isn´t appealing to a lot of Japanese gamers even the artstyle doesn´t look like very Japanese. As of right now PS4s performance is mainly Sonys own fault. Sony should invest more in their Japanese studios and develop appealing games instead of trying to westernize everything to such an extent that even Knack looks like it could have been a SCEA game. The Japanese console market isn´t dead, there is just a severe lack of appealing games. On one side we have a system that basically just has 1st and 2nd party games but are among the most popular games in Japan, on the other side all 3rd party games. The only system that actually has a little balance in this matter is 3DS.

 

[kswiston]

Wow, big drop for PS4. What is coming for it?

Konami's take on GT5 Prelude.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Wow, big drop for PS4. What is coming for it?

Nothing. Sony fucked up and released the Vita: Console Edition with PS4. Expect sales <15k soon.

 

[Metallix87]

Anyone that looks at the industry could tell you that is what is happening IMO .
This has been happening since the PS3 days and going to keep on going this way .

I was saying them making the right call was debatable. I'm sure Japanese gamers, for example, disagree.

 

[spatenfloot]

The only thing that could move PS4s in Japan is if they take an interest in some Western franchises. Nothing else seems to coming until at least 2015.

 

[prag16]

Hmm, if you go to bestbuy.com and look at PS4 availability in your area does it say your store has them? My 25 mile radius of Best Buys never seem to have any. I wonder how accurate that is and if I should just go to the store by my house every once in awhile to see if they have any?

On the website, without even asking me for a store, the product page just tells me "Not available for store pickup", period. Can't hurt to give them a call and ask.

EDIT: Okay, I was able to search for stores on the bestbuy website. It says "IN STORE ONLY" for 9 of the 10 stores that show up on the first page of results. I guess it means it's there, but you can't reserve it online for store pickup for some reason.

 

[spatenfloot]

I was saying them making the right call was debatable. I'm sure Japanese gamers, for example, disagree.

I'm sure Sony didn't expect much from the Japanese launch, but they had to make a token effort to appease the most hardcore fans. Especially since they launched everywhere else already.