Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun

If they're going to give a cameo to the trainers, it'd be when they use the Mega Evolution, which further suggests that they're final Smashes, since they're the only thing that can interrupt the match like that.

Sakurai even made the activation gesture in the video and we didn't see how it was activated in gameplay. So, they could give cameos to trainers during that sequence.

Yeah, That's what I meant during Final Smash's scenes.

So is that a yes?

I will revise my bet. I predict that there will be any poke trainer in Charizard's final smash. Acceptable?

Let's talk about Pikmin & Olimar.

3 Pikmin is a welcome change and it allows for easier management. And making the Pikmin come in a certain order is a cherry on top. They haven't shown if you can get more of the same type Pikmin right? I wonder if you can. None of the POTDs have that.

The Flying Pikmin replacing Olimar's old recovery is a very good idea, but with the fact that if you have Pikmin with you and it makes you heavier means you are going to probably throw all Pikmin you have on yourself before you use the Up Special. That would mean once you get back on the platform, you're kinda helpless, so I wonder if they improved Olimar's Pikmin-less game.


I wonder if the footage for the direct is what was used for the POTDs. Some of it matches with the POTDs.

Yeah, it look like Teether is out of the game but i'm glad tho since it can be unreliable sometime. Most reliable teether in the series is more likely to be Samus'.

Also I'm excited about Olimar's buffs (and nerf) but he look great in action.

....Yeah, I thought of that right after he accepted. Oh well, too late to back out now.



It's his Mega evolution in Pokemon X. Charizard and Mewtwo are special because they have exclusive Mega evolutions depending on which version you are playing.

You could ask him to revise your bet by adding one more. It wouldn't hurt anyone tho.
 
This is fan-fiction. There is nothing in the games or manga that indicate Ridley has genetic memory.

Except he doesn't; he attacks the squad first as a juvenile and he attacks both Samus and Anthony as an adult. In both encounters he runs away at the first sign of injury like any scared animal. Do you think every enemy in the game has a personal vendetta for Samus because they all attack her?

There's no telling how badly he got injured in the manga, but he gets blown up pretty good in Metroid/Zero Mission. Then again so do Kraid and Mother Brain. Regardless, Other M shows that he remembers her.

When Samus first encounters him he's the bunny chick. He gives her a pretty creepy and sinister look as she walks away from him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnDLgh7x-HQ

Later, after he reaches level 14 and evolves, he approaches the building Samus is inside of which is being guarded by the squad and he looks up at her. Samus rushes downstairs to fight him, during which time he has started climbing the building to go after her. Once he notices she is outside he jumps off and goes straight after her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mPEC9s12LU He CLEARLY remembers her.

Then he pretty much waits for Samus in the Bottle Ship's version of his boss room and tries to kill her again. He only tries to kill Anthony after Anthony shoots at him.
 
After seeing Kirby's new side special, I remembered that it exists as an unused animation in Brawl:

KirbyBrawlHammerWalkUnused.gif


I wonder how many of the new attacks/modes/mechanics were originally planned for the last game. Sakurai said there were a lot of concepts he didn't have time to include.
 
If you want, I could breed you a Fennekin and trade it to you.

Thanks! But does anyone really trade starters in wonder trade?...

Ask anyone in GAF or just wonder trade till you get one.

Don't go to any trouble, I don't even know when I'll be able to get online next, but if people really put those out there then I'll be able to find one hopefully.

I was so surprised the Gen 1 starters were available that I've been secretly hoping I can get all of the starters I didn't pick in-game somehow...
 
I don't really see how convoluted it is. Final Smashes that heal the user aren't unprecedented, and it'd be as simple as pumping the percentage down to zero and giving you full aura power for thirty seconds or something.
I could see it maybe only healing a little bit but lasting for the rest of the stock, similar to the games.

Either way, assuming it's a final smash is a safer bet than assuming it's some unknown mechanic.
 
I think rock Pikmin are redundant. They would do the same things as Purple Pikmin but are just rock-shaped. There isn't a reason to include them.

lol I completely forgot Sheik's Side B can be used for that. Thank god they changed it, I found it to be useless. Yea, I think you're right.

And Jesus, that video is terrible.

I'm pretty hyped about the grenades. I love their animation. There's something about how she pulls the pin by string that makes it amazing.

XD That video was the hypest thing ever when i was younger. It's Monty Oum who now animates Red VS Blue and RWBY
 
I was very underwhelmed by Rosalina's FS

It looked about on par with maybe Pit, or Dedede, if even that. On larger levels? probably useless

Speaking of FS, do you think Sakurai will attempt to rebalance some final smashes? (DK pls)
 
After seeing Kirby's new side special, I remembered that it exists as an unused animation in Brawl:

KirbyBrawlHammerWalkUnused.gif


I wonder how many of the new attacks/modes/mechanics were originally planned for the last game. Sakurai said there were a lot of concepts he didn't have time to include.

Whoa, nice finding.
 
After seeing Kirby's new side special, I remembered that it exists as an unused animation in Brawl:

KirbyBrawlHammerWalkUnused.gif


I wonder how many of the new attacks/modes/mechanics were originally planned for the last game. Sakurai said there were a lot of concepts he didn't have time to include.

I wonder if Sakurai is going to implement the battle damage system like he intended to for Brawl this time around.
 
Thanks! But does anyone really trade starters in wonder trade?...



Don't go to any trouble, I don't even know when I'll be able to get online next, but if people really put those out there then I'll be able to find one hopefully.

I was so surprised the Gen 1 starters were available that I've been secretly hoping I can get all of the starters I didn't pick in-game somehow...

Yeah they do. I don't WT very often but I've gotten a Chespin through it.
 
An easy explanation for why Mega Charizard X has it go dark while Mega Lucario doesn't is that Mega Charizard X is a transformation similar to Yoshi's or Diddy's Final Smash while Mega Lucario's is like Wario's or Bowser's Final Smash.
I'm pretty hyped about the grenades. I love their animation. There's something about how she pulls the pin by string that makes it amazing.

XD That video was the hypest thing ever when i was younger. It's Monty Oum who now animates Red VS Blue and RWBY
Now that I think about it, I think I saw that video before lol.
 
I was very underwhelmed by Rosalina's FS

It looked about on par with maybe Pit, or Dedede, if even that. On larger levels? probably useless

Speaking of FS, do you think Sakurai will attempt to rebalance some final smashes? (DK pls)

I'm glad her FS is a little on the underwhelming side. Judging from what the Direct had shown, she looks like she's gonna be a very serious character to go up against already
 
You know what? I just realized the other genius part of a staggered release. I don't own a 3DS and up until this second I was like, "guess I'm just gonna have to wait till december, that sucks". Then I realized that I can buy a friggen 3DS and not wait. And I will. God dammit nintendo.
 
Mario needs a new Final Smash more than anybody else. I don't know what they were thinking when they made it so atrocious.

Yea, I'd prefer if Final Smashes were more based on the character's game and not just flashy explosions or whatever like a lot of Brawl FS' were guilty of.

I wonder if a Mega Mushroom from NSMB would work as a final smash for Mario. Or maybe Rainbow Mario from Mario Galaxy, constantly moving forward bashing anyone in his path.
 
Mario needs a new Final Smash more than anybody else. I don't know what they were thinking when they made it so atrocious.

Yeah, it was pretty weak, more for edge guarding than anything. Maybe make it so that it does more knockback and damage, or something like that. It looked nice, too bad it wasn't that effective.
 
So, since the 3DS release is supposed to be this Summer does that mean we might actually get to see the retailer packaging soon?
 
Oreomunsta,

Since you love kingdom heart so much in your avatar, so I would like to grant your wish that your avatar would remain in kingdom heart franchise, however it will be different character. Please welcome Lightning in Kingdom Heart style.

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Yea, I'd prefer if Final Smashes were more based on the character's game and not just flashy explosions or whatever like a lot of Brawl FS' were guilty of.

I wonder if a Mega Mushroom from NSMB would work as a final smash for Mario. Or maybe Rainbow Mario from Mario Galaxy, constantly moving forward bashing anyone in his path.

I'd be kind of bummed if it were just Rainbow Mario. It's really similar to getting a Starman, and there are already a few characters who just move faster and do damage when they hit you - Yoshi, Sonic, Pikachu, and Wario come to mind - and if Mario didn't also gain flight then his Final Smash would be considerably less useful than the aforementioned characters.
 
So, since the 3DS release is supposed to be this Summer does that mean we might actually get to see the retailer packaging soon?

No need to rush. There's still effectively 5 months left until the end of August. That counts as "Summer", right? =P
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I hope that there will be events returning. That way we can have Mega Mario vs. Giga Bowser face-offs >=)

I'd actually like Bowser's FS to change, though. Incorporating the floating clown vehicle of his would be a great throwback
 
You know what? I just realized the other genius part of a staggered release. I don't own a 3DS and up until this second I was like, "guess I'm just gonna have to wait till december, that sucks". Then I realized that I can buy a friggen 3DS and not wait. And I will. God dammit nintendo.

Yeah but more people have a 3DS than a Wii U... They should have staggered it the other way around.
 
Yeah but more people have a 3DS than a Wii U... They should have staggered it the other way around.

I'd imagine that that wasn't an option, seeing as how the Wii U assets are higher res and will take more time to develop, plus you'd assume that the console version will have more content and more full-featured online systems.
 
Oreomunsta,

Since you love kingdom heart so much in your avatar, so I would like to grant your wish that your avatar would remain in kingdom heart franchise, however it will be different character. Please welcome Lightning in Kingdom Heart style.

bhCRHIX.png

This is nowhere near as badly as it could have gone, so sure! ^^
 
Yeah but more people have a 3DS than a Wii U... They should have staggered it the other way around.

They're probably banking on the fact that once people play it long enough they'll found out that the series is better experienced on a home console.

My question is if you're going to have to unlock the roster in the Wii U version if you've already done so on the 3DS.
 
Let's talk about Pikmin & Olimar.

3 Pikmin is a welcome change and it allows for easier management. And making the Pikmin come in a certain order is a cherry on top. They haven't shown if you can get more of the same type Pikmin right? I wonder if you can. None of the POTDs have that.

The Flying Pikmin replacing Olimar's old recovery is a very good idea, but with the fact that if you have Pikmin with you and it makes you heavier means you are going to probably throw all Pikmin you have on yourself before you use the Up Special. That would mean once you get back on the platform, you're kinda helpless, so I wonder if they improved Olimar's Pikmin-less game..

Most people are assuming Olimar's recovery is good without pikmin and terrible with them, but maybe that's not the case. Maybe the recovery is very good without any pikmin, and still good (but not as good obviously) with them. As far as I can remember, there's no way to tell what is he case from the videos.
 
I kind of doubt we'll get a grass type Pokemon. They're mostly the least popular of the starters usually.
Bulbasaur's pretty popular. I'd say Bulbasaur's more popular than Squirtle, but Blastoise is more popular than Venusaur.

Also, the Fire starter has been the most popular for the first four generations. For gens 5 and 6, it seems like Water took over.
 
What's wrong with Chespin?

Well his move set isn't great early on, Quilladin is ugly as sin (he looks like a walking football with a face) and Chesnaught isn't great either. I was really disappointed by both evolutions after how cute Chespin was.

I picked Charmander for my other starter though, and he's awesome.
 
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