For example I remember the level 5-4 has some framerate and clipping matters:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17u0i3_soluce-super-mario-3d-world-niveau-5-4_videogames
And this is the only level which is built in an open scale.
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For example I remember the level 5-4 has some framerate and clipping matters:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17u0i3_soluce-super-mario-3d-world-niveau-5-4_videogames
And this is the only level which is built in an open scale.
I know what you mean, but you can probably equate this to watching a hands-on demo of the game, except in tournament format with a potential prize in the end
Do you seriously not see how that is a problem with the coverage and not Nintendo? The "live conference" is a press event. The "live audience" are press. They are literally the only people who directly gain anything from a live stage show. They then pass on what they gain (the information) to the consumers through their coverage. That information however, is just as available to them through what Nintendo has announced today as it is through a live stage show. The only difference here is that the consumer directly gets the same information and in exactly way.
If there is any negative implication towards the coverage from doing it this way then I really don't see how that is anyone's fault besides those doing the covering.
RurouniZel
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Between this, the increasing presence of Treehouse, the Tomodachi Direct and others, I think all of these new ads/directs are an intentional method Nintendo is trying out. To me they're clearly trying to change their image in the eyes of other gamers by having a sense of humor about themselves. It's true that in many ways Nintendo is clearly out of touch, but it is clear that they are listening as well.
I like this new direction. Keep going with it, Nintendo.
I think you're confusing "frame drops" with "pop ins"
I like this new direction. Keep going with it, Nintendo.
For example I remember the level 5-4 has some framerate matters:
And this is the only level which is built in an open scale.
I think you're confusing "frame drops" with "pop ins"
I imagine that they will get some warm-up time with the game before the tournament.
Kacho
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Direct thread, no. But when that speculation starts and "rumors" start dropping...haha
Happened on a few occasions last year iirc.
Seriously, what counts is what is shown. I really don't care if they are up there going through the same motions as Microsoft and Sony or not. They would probably stand a bigger chance of being swallowed up by their hype if they did. Which is what they don't need.
On the other hand, being off to the side gives them their own stage to let their reveals shine on. It's obvious they have big plans for it and I am glad that they are not risking going head to head with the other two where all of the third party games are. Show me those exclusives and what makes the system stand on it's own.
On the other hand, being off to the side gives them their own stage to let their reveals shine on. It's obvious they have big plans for it and I am glad that they are not risking going head to head with the other two where all of the third party games are. Show me those exclusives and what makes the system stand on it's own.
let it go, dude. He is convinced. Even a hookup with ScarJo won't sway him.
The games drops from 60 FPS like 0.0000001% of the time. Still, I was more impressed with this game technically than any other 2013 title.
Graphics Horse
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Crowd reactions are important, didn't you see Sony's Japanese PS4 launch?
InsaneZero
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These types of demos are not thoroughly bug-tested as they are specially constructed builds, so they have an inherent risk that don't normally exist in ordinary demos. So they have to be maintained in a controlled environment where trained individuals can react quickly to any unexpected issues.
Ugh too complicated man. It's gonna take a whole 'nother year before my mind can grasp the computationalism you're getting at.
Keighly is salty that he won't get extra money/ratings for Spike.
I saw that video where he tried to get Mega64 to stop talking about Nintendo. That was gross.
KoopaTheCasual
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OMGGGGGG! HYPE!
Yea, ok, probably no conference (but there will be a direct), but they'll have HUGE presence at E3 this year, which is the whole point of the conference. I think this was a very very smart move on their part, to showcase their big title and get the common gamer super fucking hype.
Where's the gif when you find out that your local best buy won't have smash available and the nearest best buy that does is hours away?
ElectricKaibutsu
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I do think you lose some of the excitement by doing it streaming, but that doesn't matter all that much if they put together a good video. The reason last year's was so bad was because no one could watch it. Hopefully they fix the streaming issues this year.
Garou
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If you need cheers of questionable sincerity to be enthusiastic about something, maybe it is you who is being played instead of the games.
On top of that, I imagine that Nintendo is very savvy to the works of data miners these days, and having a public release of the demo could jeopardize the hype roll-out of the title. Getting even one character leaked out before the 3DS version hits would be damaging.
Alaskanbullworm
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KoopaTheCasual
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I don't know how people can be disappointed right now. This is Nintendo actually thinking forward, for once. This is them taking steps to ensure they stay in the news, and it seems like they understand they're fighting an uphill battle against irrelevance.
You are complaining that Nintendo can't do huge worlds in HD. There were about two trailers with gameplay and a direct with the game demonstration. It was far more than a few minutes. What do you think is going to be different from what we saw so far which is a lot to what it will be when released? Dude please stop.
Anyway this is a technical problem too. Besides, you just have to go to the ww's sea if you want to see the HD problem.
Spieler Eins
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Last year totally wasn't a disaster when it came to reception for Nintendo... oh wait. Can't believe the defenders bring up the same shit now as last year. Just like Nintendo, not learning a thing.
And since this confirms that they still have no clue what's going on in the real world, my expectations are again dead (though I'm sure they'll find some way to disappoint, as usual. I'm just gonna guess Zelda will be another lowtier effort like the current Marios)
The Horror the horror
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It's a full-scale AAA Zelda game presented in HD, so it definitely qualifies, but if you guys want to move the goal post, go right on ahead.
Ouch.
That's really jumping the gun there. They usually put a lot of emphasis on their heavy hitters. Don't be surprised if we see another trailer for MK8 during their Direct, even though it's out.
5% of Nintendo's payroll is paying the Ninja.
Davey Cakes
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So many overreactions. Christ.
Most E3 live conferences have been so-so over the last several years. 2009 and 2010 were good but not any better than what Nintendo could do with this Digital Event.
Last year had positives and negatives with the Direct but Nintendo still had an E3 presence. I think this year won't be an exact repeat; it seems like Nintendo's trying to improve on that approach rather than revert back to the ways of old. I honestly find it refreshing.
Just be happy that Nintendo is planning a variety of things for E3 and that they're still showing confidence after the recent turbulence.
Most E3 live conferences have been so-so over the last several years. 2009 and 2010 were good but not any better than what Nintendo could do with this Digital Event.
Last year had positives and negatives with the Direct but Nintendo still had an E3 presence. I think this year won't be an exact repeat; it seems like Nintendo's trying to improve on that approach rather than revert back to the ways of old. I honestly find it refreshing.
Just be happy that Nintendo is planning a variety of things for E3 and that they're still showing confidence after the recent turbulence.
Aaronrules380
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I haven't seen it, but considering the ps4 hasn't been doing that amazingly in Japan I'm not sure what your point is
TheLink117
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This, 100% this!
Not really. Both Sony and Microsoft have been called out in recent months in regards to using canned applause at conferences.Some of the gaming media revealed it was Microsoft employees at the back of the room who were cheering at their conference last year.
Nintendo could pre-record their Digital Event in front of a 1000 strong crowd of Nintendo employees if they wished(so it looked live)... and they'd get as legitmate a crowd reaction as most conferences.
LordOcidax
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Bravo, Sir. Thank you
So you're complaining about the content of last year's E3 instead of the method they used to present it and then associating it with the method they used?
Do you see how flawed your logic is? But I shouldn't expect any better since you still can't accept that 3D World has been positively received and still don't want to admit it lol.
Another live stream is fine by me as long as it doesn't get messed by by technical issues. We already know most of the content they'll be focusing on, so there likely won't be too many surprises beyond a first look at titles like Fire Emblem X SMT, Fatal Frame, possibly Zelda and new 3DS titles. QOL platform probably won't be actually revealed but just discussed further. Anyway, it's not like a successful E3 is going to change Wii U's fate. At best, the console is a supplemental platform to most gamers, and if they aren't interested enough in picking up a Wii U for the big upcoming titles we've known about for quite some time, then Nintendo wasn't likely going to get them to change their minds anyway. That is to say, especially not without another official price cut and substantial third party support (the former of which could happen but it seems quite low given Iwata's statement earlier this year, while the latter is limited to mostly Nintendo Japanese publishing partnerships and the occasional port that won't likely sell well anyway).
PachinkoChampBruh
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last year i think microsoft or nintendo had the best shows. just trailer after trailer until the thing was over. but if there was one thing that became abundantly clear was that watching sony, ubisoft, ea, and microsoft was that press conferences are looooooong and not always talking about the things you want to hear (sony-guy talking about tv for 10 minutes, and generally transitions between presenters which has some dead time in between).
and last year i noted it was odd that nintendo, the company with the worst online infrastructure had the best method of presenting their stuff, and that they had been increasingly internet-focused as a means of controlling their message.
this seems to be a far bigger push than last year. while last year i think they hit all the right notes, it felt like nintendo didn't really want people to care a whole lot about what was happening. at least with this it seems they're a lot more interested in pushing the presentation aspect. hopefully this and the tomodachi direct, and the smash direct are a sign of things to come.
and last year i noted it was odd that nintendo, the company with the worst online infrastructure had the best method of presenting their stuff, and that they had been increasingly internet-focused as a means of controlling their message.
this seems to be a far bigger push than last year. while last year i think they hit all the right notes, it felt like nintendo didn't really want people to care a whole lot about what was happening. at least with this it seems they're a lot more interested in pushing the presentation aspect. hopefully this and the tomodachi direct, and the smash direct are a sign of things to come.
Zelda Wii U isn't out either which you originally brought up in your point. There really isn't much on PS4 or Xbox One that currently is all that impressive either outside of pretty graphics. Those games will come as will X and Zelda for the Wii U.
We only have three videos about X and I think it looks impressive but I also know what kind of games Monolith Soft makes and what kind of game Xenoblade was which this is obviously very similar to so I know it will be an impressive game, the kind of game in which I think "feels" impressive enough that it is obvious we are in a new generation of gaming.
Aaronrules380
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The reception to the event was only because of the shitty stream and people not liking the content. Nintendo has improved their streams since then and content has nothing to do with whether its a press conference. And 3D world was amazing
I think the video emphasized well that there is more to come. I mean the whole point was that the "Fils-A-Mech" was working his way towards the big news, only to be thwarted and have to wait until E3 like the rest of us. The Smash stuff was right in he middle of the video.
Plus on twitter they specifically mention "2014 & Beyond" and refer to it as "the one you've been waiting for". That's enough to give me faith that there will at least be more surprises than last year.
Maybe.
I'd rather they concentrate on Smash than have nothing.
Plus there are many Wii U / 3DS titles we'll see at E3.
I'm hyped to see the Smash Bros tournament and Smash is probably the only game I would be willing to play at a Best Buy.
Nintendo has started to use services like Youtube and Twitch for their streams so it shouldn't lag like last year.
Nintendo has started to use services like Youtube and Twitch for their streams so it shouldn't lag like last year.
Spieler Eins
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ok, that video was decent (for mega64 standards anyway).
Project Tree House sounds pretty interesting.
And they said at the end there will be new games and debuts.
Theres going to be things other than Smash, don't worry
They feel different you have have a live conference in a big hall with lots of people. You know there is a reason why the camera shows the crowd lots of the time during live events. Something like last year's Sony conference where they announce no DRM and price of PS4 won't feel the same if you are watching in a pre-recorded video with announcer just announcing.
There is a reason people get excited at live conference events, even if it's watching at home through livestream. Things like MWC, and apple event where they announce new products like iphone or ipad.
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