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Donald Sterling (LA Clippers owner) banned for life from the NBA

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SummitAve said:
I hope violent and sexual crimes are treated the same as this racist remark going forward.
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See, that is the thing, and I know this is going to get me into some shit.

When you execute one person for making racist and hateful comments what do you do to the individual who does something worse? This was probably the harshest punishment ever laid down in the history of the NBA. For what? The guy is a racist and privately said some racist crap to his girlfriend.
 
The Albatross said:
Holy shit -- good on Adam Silver for having the guts to do this.

Regarding the 2.5m fine -- I wouldn't think that the NBA has the power to fine an owner for something non-basketball related, but I guess so... Especially an owner who has been banned.
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He agreed to being subject to fines when he agreed to the league constitution.
 
DrFunk said:
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Why does Tyson Chandler look like he came from his 2nd job
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Could be worse:

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Holy shit, Silver with the banhammer. I agree with the NBA's decision.

Wonder if there are any good Silver banhammer photoshops in this thread, I will take a look.
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
See, that is the thing, and I know this is going to get me into some shit.

When you execute one person for making racist and hateful comments what do you do to the individual who does something worse?
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This has an easy answer. You do the same, or you punish them even WORSE.

What you seem to not realize is that the NBA merely has to find 30 people that aren't absolute cunts to own teams. They aren't governing the world. Its not going to be THAT hard to find 30 people that aren't sexist, racist assholes.

Its really not.
 
Cipherr said:
This has an easy answer. You do the same, or you punish them even WORSE.

What you seem to not realize is that the NBA merely has to find 30 people that aren't absolute cunts to own teams. They aren't governing the world. Its not going to be THAT hard to find 30 people that aren't sexist, racist assholes.

Its really not.
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How does the NBA punish someone worse than a lifetime ban and the maximum fine possible?

I'm also talking about players too.
 
As I am wont to do when there is a major gay rights victory, I have gone to drink up the salty tears at FreeRepublic. As usual, they don't disappoint.

The zeitgeist wins. We no longer are entitled to our beliefs… whatever they are; political; religious; personal.

We are no longer a free people.

Everything must conform to the state, and the mob that the state enslaves to it’s will.

And Christians laugh when I tell them real persecution is right around the corner here in this country.
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The lesson learned here..... Free speech at your own home is not tolerated....Never trust a whore....
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Sterling goes!

Obama stays!

Benghazi sucks hind teat

Media seeks new victim(s)
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More, uh, "gems" at the link.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3150059/posts
 
Ninja Scooter said:
There will be groups that will bid that will put up just as money as any Seattle group. Magic and he Guggenheim partners, if they throw their hat into it, will likely easily put up a billion. And that will be to keep the team in LA and all the revenue that goes along with that.

Grumblings of teams getting moved arise from arena issues. There is no such issue with the Clippers. I doubt the subject of them being moved is ever even brought up once they hit the market. There will be no shortage of suitors who will be just fine with keeping the team in La.
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Yeah, I don't think the team will end up moving. LA is just too attractive a market. But I think the Seattle group will make a legitimately viable offer, if the team were currently anywhere other than LA.

Cipherr said:
Could be worse:

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Knicks pls
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
Isn't that kinda of happening though? You are forcing him to sell something that he doesn't want to sell.
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I definitely agree with you in principal, but whether or not he's forced to sell the team he's going to end up selling anyway. As long as he owns the team, no one is going to play for the Clippers if there's any other option.

He'd actually better do it sooner rather than later before all the good players leave and he's stuck with trying to sell what the Clippers franchise used to be.
 
This is surprising. I didn't expect this.

Need some time to digest this. Could have big repercussions on the league in general.
 
I think what Sterling said is reprehensible. But still, to all the people outraged that he gets to sell his team for large dollars, in America people can't have their property taken from them because they hold terrible opinions. That's not a principle that I would support.
 
Hari Seldon said:
Maybe, but this could be one hell of a legal fight if the billionaire owner wanted it to be.
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Not if he signed a contract that binds him to the decisions of the Board of Governors, which I'm sure he did. The owners' contracts are secret, but there has to be something in there like a morality clause related to damaging the NBA brand, and that has definitely happened here. It's highly unlikely Sterling has any way out of this.
 
Deku Tree said:
I think what Sterling said is reprehensible. But still, to all the people outraged that he gets to sell his team for large dollars, in America people can't have their property taken from them because they hold terrible opinions. That's not a principle that I would support.
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What if Ronald McDonald was a racist?
 
Deku Tree said:
I think what Sterling said is reprehensible. But still, to all the people outraged that he gets to sell his team for large dollars, in America people can't have their property taken from them because they hold terrible opinions. That's not a principle that I would support.
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He agreed to the rules.
 
Re: "can they do that?" "isn't this a bad precedent?"

Whether or not the league can do this is entirely up to the contract signed by Sterling or any other owner when they bought the team or otherwise entered the league. Thus, it doesn't create any precedent for anyone else, unless you are also a NBA team owner.

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Arrogant Bastard said:
You are missing the key point of what he said. You cannot have your property simply taken away from you, and it seems that Sterling just said that the Clippers are not for sale. So.
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Sterling had to have signed a contract at some point that allowed his team to compete in the NBA, and when he agreed to that contract he apparently agreed that the league could force a sale of his team if certain conditions were met.
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
You are missing the key point of what he said. You cannot have your property simply taken away from you, and it seems that Sterling just said that the Clippers are not for sale. So.
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He won't have it simply taken away from it, the other owners are going to have to decide to remove him.

The owners run the NBA.
 
Hollywood Duo said:
Yeah I mean I get the whole reasoning behind it.These sports leagues kind of do whatever the hell they want unless someone puts them in check though. I'm not sure a judge would agree with the actual legality of it.
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IANAL, but I'm sure the contract he signed when he bought the team provided for this outcome. "Owning" a team is more like leasing the rights to operate a team from the NBA/NHL/NFL.
 
Since it's in the by-laws and not something they created out of the blue, I'm perfectly fine with this. Awesome.

earvcunanan said:
Bring the team to Seattle pls
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Maddocks said:
Clippers are worth 800+ million. But there are people lining up to purchase. Now it's up to the new owner if they want to move the team. the magic Johnson's group buys it, he will keep it in LA, but if a rich Seattle billionaire buys it. clippers could be in Seattle by 2019.
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So they can be ignored and treated to a crappy stadium until someone else buys them? = P
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
You are missing the key point of what he said. You cannot have your property simply taken away from you, and it seems that Sterling just said that the Clippers are not for sale. So.
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You can if it is subject to a contract. You can make a contract with a bank and they can take your property away if you fail to live up to the terms of the contract. The contract probably has provisions for contraction of the league and we know they have provisions for the NBA taking over control of a team.
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
IF he does not want to sell, which is what he stated, and the owners vote to remove him then we are going to have one interesting legal soap opera.
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Sure.

There isn't much he can do though but watch and attempt at grabbing falling dollars. In the end, he will be richer due to this. His family and himself are just going to not continue to reap the LA inflation.

There is still the chance they don't force him and he redistributes ownership through the family. That would be his lone defense right now I would imagine.
 
Anyone can break this out for me.

Sterling is hit with a lifetime ban on all basketball operations. Does basketball operations include Clippers organization management? If it does, couldn't his GM/President of B-Ball operations continually go over the salary cap and force Sterling to pay repeater tax penalties as Sterling would have no say on the matter?

If that's true, this is already a forced sale, and Silver does not fuck around.
 
TheBryanJZX90 said:
Re: "can they do that?" "isn't this a bad precedent?"

Whether or not the league can do this is entirely up to the contract signed by Sterling or any other owner when they bought the team or otherwise entered the league. Thus, it doesn't create any precedent for anyone else, unless you are also a NBA team owner.

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Sterling had to have signed a contract at some point that allowed his team to compete in the NBA, and when he agreed to that contract he apparently agreed that the league could force a sale of his team if certain conditions were met.
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This. Whether you agree it's right or wrong, fact of the matter is that you don't know what the contract says, you don't know what the NBA charter says. The fact that the NBA is doing this means that Sterling did indeed violate some part of his contract.
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
You are missing the key point of what he said. You cannot have your property simply taken away from you, and it seems that Sterling just said that the Clippers are not for sale. So.
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Also, this is a tangent but forcing the sale of legally owned property is one of the major powers civil courts have. If you default on your mortgage the court orders that your house be sold, for example. Even if you say the house isn't for sale.
 
Mercury Fred said:
As I am wont to do when there is a major gay rights victory, I have gone to drink up the salty tears at FreeRepublic. As usual, they don't disappoint.







More, uh, "gems" at the link.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3150059/posts
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I think the best one is

To: Mariner
How can you fine someone and kick them out for life? What's the incentive to pay the fine?
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Mainly because it implies there's an incentive to pay a fine when that's the only punishment..
 
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