Little Mac.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 7: How Can My Smash Brother Be This Cut
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Little Mac.
Hmm, so, does anyone think they'll include anything from Pokemon ORAS in the game? I'm not talking about Hoenn representatives but more like an trophy reference or something. Probably both Groudon and Kyogre will return and we haven't seen them yet, so it would be cool to include their supposedly mega forms.
I'm really sorry about low quality of my work.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Kyogre were shown in Smash Direct.
Speaking of OR/AS, when do you all suppose those games entered development? I really have no idea how long the remakes take to develop, nor do I have any understanding of the team structure at Game Freak. If GF told Sakurai about those games around the same time they suggested Greninja, then I'm sure it's possible we'll see new gen 3 representation.
It was on the CGI trailer though, iirc. There's still a chance for the ORAS forme.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Eh, I don't really think so. The remakes aren't really the same as a whole new game in terms of representation.
GameFreak's historically been a two-team studio, with main games developed by one and remakes/third versions developed by the second.
It's entirely possible that the two were in development concurrently, or at least planned out in advance.
I'm quite confident Sakurai has been aware of this game's development. He should probably know everything Nintendo has planned, considering the type of game Smash is.
A playable Gen 3 starter would be neat. Sceptile would definitely fulfill the need for a leaf starter. Though Blaziken is more popular, and "looks cooler", despite being super redundant.
I believe Pokemon Trainer was relevant to Fire Red and Leaf Green, not to mention this remake will be a full overhaul with 3D models and more.
Despite that, TPCi is known for their secrecy. I'm pretty sure that not everyone knew about stuff like Greninja long before his official reveal. Actually, I'm confident they chose him as the XY rep after the game's release.
Beelzebufo
Banned
So wouldn't FR/LG have been our 3rd gen rep then? Shouldn't we get a HGSS character by that logic?
Lord_Byron28
Member
GF has a two team system. So when team #1 release B/W in 2010 they began on X/Y which released in 2013. Then when Black 2/White 2 released they likely began on ORAS in 2012.
Uh. ..
You're over analyzing my comment. There's no hard rule or number that series representation should abide by. I'm just saying that there's no "disqualifier" for remakes, nor should there be.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Yeah, but there's nothing to really suggest that a recent remake means more content will show up either, which was my point.
Compare to a brand new gen, which always results in a new character.
Yeah, we're just discussing the possibility. It's not like it's a far-fetched idea. (Held back from bad Pokemon pun).
Beelzebufo
Banned
Yup. We could get a 5th gen rep too! #TeamZoroark
I'm partial to Deoxys for Gen 3, but his chances are less than slim.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Nonexistent right? About the same as Skull Kid, Ashley, and Wonder Red.
It seems Zoroark will appear as a Pokeball Pokemon. And it makes much more sense that way.
Should be noted that Team #2 works on remakes and third versions. 3rd versions require less work so I believe that only a bit of time is required for the 3rd version while remakes would require a lot more work.
Seems like NSMB's diversive bosses put a false image in my head then. I didn't mind them in SMW, but that had been my first and only 2D Mario game at the time I played it.
Oh well it's not like the bosses have ever been my primary source of enjoyment in the 2D Mario games, at least they are exploitable enough to quickly finish them off and move on. Still hope we'll get another 2D Mario game with bosses in the vein of NSMB (but with NSMBU-quality level design)
I don't think that many actually care about skill kid. Majora mask is the ff9 of Zeldas. ( ff9 is one of my favorite ff's)
And no one knows who wonder red is.
Wario ware isn't popular enough yet.
Deoxis is already more popular than these three.
Deoxys is a pokeball. Yeah, it's not happening. Even Magikarp has a better chance than Deoxys.
Wasn't charizard a pokeball? OR on that saphire city stage?
Charizard wasn't playable in either of those games. We've already seen Deoxys' Poké Ball summon in SSB4, thus it isn't going to be a playable character.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Deoxys is a Pokeball in Smash4/5 haha.
Hence the comparison to other deconfirmed characters.
Yeah, but Deoxys is a pokeball pokemon in Smash 4. It's like having both the AT Little Mac and the new Little Mac in the same game.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Yup. So nonexistent chance.
It would be fun seeing low poly Mac, wired Mac and normal Mac. lol Based on the fact that they replaced Link with Alfonso on the spirit tracks stage, they're not really fond of the idea though. :/
Bumping this discussion for weekend SmashGAF. =P I'm really interested in hearing what people think about potential bad guy newcomers. Will we get any more this time? If so, who?
The Koopalings have been as diverse as those bosses from NSMB, they just really need to make it impossible to hit them before they start another attack phase. The only real problem with them is you can hit them as soon as they pop out of their shells.
I chose King Boo in a previous post:
Striking off Ridley and K. Rool, any Nintendo villains you guys want that aren't often talked about here?
I personally want King Boo from Luigi's Mansion in.
I want him in because he'll be difficult to implement properly, which always leads to some creativity.
I sat down and thought about it for a good ~10 mins and came up with things that he could potentially do.
Firstly, for his idle, he'd float in place, a few inches off the ground, and when he "runs" or dashes, he has his hands out in front while shaking his head left and right as if he's trying to scare/haunt something.
His "jump" could possibly be Kirby-esque, though I think we're getting too many of those character types. Perhaps it should be limited to three "jumps" before he covers his eyes and falls to his doom or something.
For his B-specials:
Up-B could probably be similar to Dedede where he flies up into the air and drop back down with a shockwave, like he does in the boss battle for Luigi's Mansion 2.
Down-B could probably be several things. He could have a charge move where he builds up electricity in his crown and let it explode as an AoE. He could also summon a portrait frame in front of him that could trap an opponent in a portrait for a few seconds, allowing him to hit them.
Side-B he could probably throw a spiked ball that has physics so that it would roll down hills and sloping platforms. He could also maybe summon a purple ghost that could fly forward and punch an opponent.
For his normals, he'd probably have a neutral A similar to Kirby's with a bunch of jabs with his stubby arms. His forward A could be a tumbling/rolling attack like he does in the boss battle, and his down A could be a chomp type attack.
For his Final Smash, he could summon a bunch of boos that beeline towards the opponents and possess them. The opponents still have control, but every 1~3 seconds, the player can give them a "command" by pressing direction+A, direction+B, or direction+jump, forcing them to execute those commands.
I haven't really thought up anything else for him in depth, but I felt the need to dump my brain somewhere.
For someone who doesn't like them in the slightest (like me) it's more like the single redeeming quality they have.
Honest players still can choose not to abuse this. I hope Nintendo won't remove the possibility to "skip" these guys in future titles.
Oh look at you having good taste.
So this is a personal want, not a character that you expect? If that's the case, what bad guy newcomers do you expect to see, if any?
I think King Boo would be cool (though I think the lack of feet would be a real issue...), but I don't expect to see him at all. Plus, we've already got Bowser (and Wario, kinda) for a Mario series villain. But King Boo is cool. It's lame that he's not even in Mario Kart anymore. =(
I don't really expect any more than we have already gotten to be honest. The closest to come to having a chance IMO is either Medusa or a Zelda baddie.
I don't know if I expect any villainous newcomers, but I've supported Captain Syrup, Medusa, and Ridley for the longest. Black Shadow and Porky would also be pretty fun if they could make the former interesting and scale down the latter.
Kamek and K. Rool are interesting choices too, but the former would really need a lot to stand out from standard Magikoopa enemies and Rool I just don't know enough about to suggest something unique.
Kamek and K. Rool are interesting choices too, but the former would really need a lot to stand out from standard Magikoopa enemies and Rool I just don't know enough about to suggest something unique.
The Great Gonzales
Member
The problem is, most of the big series have one major, recurring bad guy, and then a few one-offs who aren't important enough for Smash (unless Sakurai is in one of his WFT moods, I guess.)
Mario has Bowser and then a bunch of one offs - Count Bleck, Grodus, Smithy, etc. No way we're seeing any of those guys in Smash. King Boo is an exception, but we already have so many Mario characters, we probably won't get any more.
Zelda has Ganondorf, and then people like Demise, Ghirahim, Queen Ambi, Onox, etc. Vaati is the only reasonable contender I can think of.
Kirby has DeDeDe, Meta Knight, and who else? Dark Matter? Kracko? (that would be hype, actually. New boss character?)
Point is, Smash already has most of the major, interesting bad guys. Captain Syrup and King K. Rool are about the only obvious choices I can think of who aren't already in.
Ridley goes without saying, of course.
Hades as a newcomer would be cool, but since I don't think Kid Icarus will get three spots in the roster I'd still prefer Palutena over him.
He will control a Ridley Robot. And when you beat him you unlock Ridley.
King Boo could be a very cool boss rather than a playable character. Villains are good material for bosses, but if those are limited to stage bosses like the Yellow Devil then I can see some villains getting in the game.
I can see King K. Rool as possible because of that, besides DK deserves a third character and the other Kongs are a bit too same-y. Someone from Fire Emblem could be really cool and a nice change of pace too. A villain from Earthbound is not happening but best choice would be Porky, since he's the bad guy in two games. Kid Icarus is a hard one because Palutena is probably in and adding 2 characters could be a bit too much. From F-Zero I expect nothing unless a new game is announced at E3.
Mario could get a small villain like Bowser Jr. too, especially if we have as many Pokemon reps as we expect.
I can see King K. Rool as possible because of that, besides DK deserves a third character and the other Kongs are a bit too same-y. Someone from Fire Emblem could be really cool and a nice change of pace too. A villain from Earthbound is not happening but best choice would be Porky, since he's the bad guy in two games. Kid Icarus is a hard one because Palutena is probably in and adding 2 characters could be a bit too much. From F-Zero I expect nothing unless a new game is announced at E3.
Mario could get a small villain like Bowser Jr. too, especially if we have as many Pokemon reps as we expect.
Troubled Bat
Member
I would love to see Captain Syrup, and most importantly Medusa. But too bad Palutena is obviously taking that spot for Kid Icarus. :c
Neoriceisgood
Member
The most plausible bosses are probably Mii & Palutena, don't expect too many others.
And then it's revealed that the boss was Fake Palutena.
Why do you hate them? It's sounding irrational. They have new ways of fighting Mario every time he faces them but you wouldn't like them no matter what they did? You'd rather have a giant goomba as a boss?
I mean, Monty Tank was cool but the Koopalings have at least as much diversity. If it weren't for that one flaw where you can attack them before they start another phase they'd be more challenging than those bosses for sure.
