Chris Remo
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That's not good. Where are you specifically trying to get them? The download links on the episode pages, or somewhere else? What happens when you click them?
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That's not good. Where are you specifically trying to get them? The download links on the episode pages, or somewhere else? What happens when you click them?
it was nice that nels actually knew things about dark souls 2 instead of ya'll blundering around in the dark for a while as usually occurs with games they might be interested in but are not actually yet
i have to reluctantly agree with sean that ds2's covenant system could conceivably be a f2p style game (dota style obviously rather than pay-to-win) because I realised I treated DS2 singleplayer basically as a waiting room between multiplayer funtimes
i have to reluctantly agree with sean that ds2's covenant system could conceivably be a f2p style game (dota style obviously rather than pay-to-win) because I realised I treated DS2 singleplayer basically as a waiting room between multiplayer funtimes
Well, it's working now, but just in case it was the Get MP3 links on the episode pages, I would go to Save link as and it would just download a 1kb file called download.mp3. Clicking the link directly just lead to a timeout. I'm guessing since 156 and 57 used soundcloud and not libsyn it was an issue with that.
idle book club mention at the end. yesss
re: japanese games. some games the thumbs might find worth looking at are crimson shroud and attack of the friday monsters from level 5's guild series on 3ds e-shop. they're short, intimate and specific games and a rare examples from a space that japanese games have kinda struggled to occupy during the the big industry changes in the last five years or so - i kinda thought noby noby boy would spark this when it came out but apparently it did so badly no-one senior at namco would speak to takahashi
re: japanese games. some games the thumbs might find worth looking at are crimson shroud and attack of the friday monsters from level 5's guild series on 3ds e-shop. they're short, intimate and specific games and a rare examples from a space that japanese games have kinda struggled to occupy during the the big industry changes in the last five years or so - i kinda thought noby noby boy would spark this when it came out but apparently it did so badly no-one senior at namco would speak to takahashi
That Dota Today episode was a really interesting listen. Never really heard an E-sports story from the caster perspective.
Also, unrelated, everytime I see this nexium commercial on TV, I can't help but think this guy looks like a taller and older Chris Remo. What is your opinion on this Chris? Am I totally crazy?
Also, unrelated, everytime I see this nexium commercial on TV, I can't help but think this guy looks like a taller and older Chris Remo. What is your opinion on this Chris? Am I totally crazy?
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I downloaded the newest podcast last night but when I went to play it this morning the iOS Podcast app was like NOPE. deleted it, tried downloading it again and it's not coming up. Did the podcast get pulled? Can I preemptively blame Sean for it, like I do with the rest of life's problems?
Chris Remo
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Are you still getting this problem? There was a problem when it first went up, but we fixed it a few minutes later. Not sure what to do if it's still happening!
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Yeah, I just tried it again and it's still doing it. I had to unsubscribe and resubscribe to the podcast for it to show up.
Chris Remo
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Ugh, really sorry about that. We're going to try and get on the phone with Soundcloud and see why this kind of thing keeps happening.
nckillthegrimace
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I realized that as I was saying it but then didn't steer out of it in time and just sailed that wind to wrong town. Sorry!
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Coincidentally I was listening to the cast and Sean reminded me that I needed to buy catfood. I'm pretty sure the badass foodbag he was talking about is blue buffalo wilderness cat food, which should be pretty ok for a fatty catty because its grain free. I think thats how a cat works on the inside.
where's the w_d's chart?
NoPiece
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I really like the cga/ega and CRT effects (maybe slightly less warping). This game is free on Steam, no reason not to try it!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/286100/
yeah i d/l from his site and i got to the end and lost. ha. i peeked and found he had a pretty odd meta level puzzle at the end and it's different in the steam version.
I did a whole mini cartoon in college with only black/white/magenta/cyan. My art teacher didn't get it; my computer science teacher did..
jediyoshi
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Part of people's fascination with this chart is so bizarre to me. Even if you took away the standard SKUs, what you have left isn't actually applicable to every single person. Discussion about it always follows as if the average person will end up overwhelmed as they're forced to decide between the North American or the Asian copy of the game they could be getting instead. This Steelbook isn't included in my digitally distributed copy of the game, how bizarre!
If you were, say, a PC player and wanted to buy it digitally, you have two whole options to decide between, whether on Steam or uplay. Past that, you could probably suss out that the little extra tidbit you gain from uplay is incidental, the same way people completely looked past the uplay exclusive extra you got buying South Park from them over Steam.
You'd still hear from ads on TV and places like online streaming tv networks or gametrailers or magazines about the other options though. We talked about the ridiculousness of it all but tried to also look at it through the lens of exclusivity to maximize sell through to different channels (and you're right that an individual customer might only get exposed to a small handful of those channels), but I don't feel like that makes 10+ skus (not even counting every single platform specific variant of some of them) that much less ridiculous.
NoPiece
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The reality is even more complicated than that ridiculous chart because it doesn't fully account for retailer specific pre order bonuses.
You could buy Uplay version, but on Amazon, and that would get you the Amazon exclusive preorder bonus: the Signature Shot Pack. The average PC gamer probably has a least one console and loves cyberpunk, so they might want to buy at Walmart to get their exclusive Cyberpunk Theme Pack. The average PC gamer is a bargain hunter, so they could have a coupon and buy from Green Man Games and just get the standard preorder bonus of the Blume Agent Pack.
You are totally right that none of it really matters, except that a lot of gamers are obsessive completionists and collectors so this taps into that.
jediyoshi
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In regards to the amount of SKUs, it only boils down to me trying to look through the mindset of someone who already has a preferred platform to play on. I'm hard pressed to think extra content would sway someone between multiple platforms they own, at which point (including a physical/digital distinction) their choices are effectively cut down to 2-3 options.
Like you mentioned on the episode, I also doubt people actually internalize differences between SKUs outside of standard/special edition features (physical retailer exclusives are another nightmare, but surprisingly it doesn't look applicable on the chart). I really think the completely average purchasing scenario for this game will consist of someone looking to buy the game on their platform of choice, quickly seeing two SKUs and just weighing their options on the spot.
Chris Remo
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Our discussion wasn't really centered around decision paralysis from a consumer standpoint. That came up but wasn't central to our criticisms.
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My imaginary start-up is definitely going to be called Adrian's Iconic Cap.
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They must mean "iconic" like when you see it you think "oh, yeah, that's definitely a baseball cap. cool!"
I love that the generic baseball cap is considered iconic, but not his vigilante mask. Like nah those are a dime a dozen, but dat CAP tho...
Listening to old episodes and got to the one where Nick first refers to segue as "seg" and you can hear the mild bemusement in Chris and Jake's reaction as one of them mutters a callback to Steve's mispronunciation of solder as "sol-der" in the previous episode.
Also, probably the precise moment where Nick decided to torpedo the show by eventually leaving.
Also, probably the precise moment where Nick decided to torpedo the show by eventually leaving.
That's not Steve mispronouncing it, just all Americans. "Sodder" is US thing. As is "'erbs".
Joseph Merrick
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just got the shipping confirmation too :O~
ebullientprism
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Ugh another Danielle episode.
Actually I dont like most press guests on the cast. Never really makes for a good episode IMO.
Actually I dont like most press guests on the cast. Never really makes for a good episode IMO.
Fix The Scientist
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I like her, although her metal gear comments in this ep were a little uninformed. I think all the guests are great, especially when they talk about games outside of the thumbs spectrum.
Strange. I think Danielle fits in better than most of the other guests, press or no press.
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Having just started my first playthrough of Metro 2033 only a day before this podcast went up I was almost jumping out of my seat during the valleys/troughs discussion until Chris finally mentioned it.
One of the things that game does so well (and it's an easy thing to do when you think about it but it's rarely ever done or done well) is that when you're in a crowd of people, they're not just standing there and patiently waiting for the player to come over to finally spring to life and become your own personal disney world animatronic, like in most games of its type where the developers want you to hear every single word out of everyone's mouth. The underground shanty towns of Metro 2033 truly feel alive in a way that I haven't felt has been executed that well since the half life games. People are conversing with one another and having typical banal conversations and theyre apparently doing it on their own time, too, about subjects ranging from being hit on by men that they're interested in to recurring nightmares they're having, sometimes even having sincere moments like when a father and son discuss what their future is going to be like once mom comes home, only to hear the sadness in the father's tone increase as the conversation comes to a close, one reading between the lines and knowing that this fantasy will remain just that until the boy is old enough to understand the truth.
As another good example, I was in a room with the leader of one town and the door of the room had been left open. As the guy was speaking to me about whatever thing he needed me to do in who knows where for god knows what purpose, I could hear the crowd of men and soldiers who were sitting and hanging out by a fire outside suddenly erupt in laughter. I actually got distracted by this and felt like I had just missed out on a great moment because I was stuck talking to sir mister plot advancer and I turned my character's head towards where I had heard the laughter coming from for just a second to see if I could catch even just a bit of whatever they were talking about. And it totally hit me that that's exactly what I would've done in real life, too, that the reaction i had was a genuine, non-gamey reaction which may have only been possible because the developers didn't feel the need to make this shooter a linear explodeaton megafire shooty pop pop game that is set at 1000% action almost the entirety of the game.
One of the things that game does so well (and it's an easy thing to do when you think about it but it's rarely ever done or done well) is that when you're in a crowd of people, they're not just standing there and patiently waiting for the player to come over to finally spring to life and become your own personal disney world animatronic, like in most games of its type where the developers want you to hear every single word out of everyone's mouth. The underground shanty towns of Metro 2033 truly feel alive in a way that I haven't felt has been executed that well since the half life games. People are conversing with one another and having typical banal conversations and theyre apparently doing it on their own time, too, about subjects ranging from being hit on by men that they're interested in to recurring nightmares they're having, sometimes even having sincere moments like when a father and son discuss what their future is going to be like once mom comes home, only to hear the sadness in the father's tone increase as the conversation comes to a close, one reading between the lines and knowing that this fantasy will remain just that until the boy is old enough to understand the truth.
As another good example, I was in a room with the leader of one town and the door of the room had been left open. As the guy was speaking to me about whatever thing he needed me to do in who knows where for god knows what purpose, I could hear the crowd of men and soldiers who were sitting and hanging out by a fire outside suddenly erupt in laughter. I actually got distracted by this and felt like I had just missed out on a great moment because I was stuck talking to sir mister plot advancer and I turned my character's head towards where I had heard the laughter coming from for just a second to see if I could catch even just a bit of whatever they were talking about. And it totally hit me that that's exactly what I would've done in real life, too, that the reaction i had was a genuine, non-gamey reaction which may have only been possible because the developers didn't feel the need to make this shooter a linear explodeaton megafire shooty pop pop game that is set at 1000% action almost the entirety of the game.
TheHollowNight
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This bit of the latest podcast had me in tears.
https://soundcloud.com/axionmusic/jake-video-games-rodkin
https://soundcloud.com/axionmusic/jake-video-games-rodkin
Chris Remo
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Those were technically "spoilers" but I'm pretty over worrying about that shit at this point. What is the negative consequence of talking about that stuff? Someone playing the game and thinking "Hmm, when all that gross shit finally happens in this game, it's probably going to be slightly less shocking to me than it otherwise would"? None of the surrounding events were spoiled. Other than just being "a spoiler", I don't really know what is really being protected by not talking about it.
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