George Oscar Bluth II
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I was deciding this as well, but after seeing all the positive stuff, I have to see X-Men ASAP.
X-Men: Days of Future Past |OT| aka The Last Stand aka First Class 2 aka Wolverine 6
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I was deciding this as well, but after seeing all the positive stuff, I have to see X-Men ASAP.
I'd put Godzilla on the backburner for a weekend. I wasn't crazy about it and I usually love the big monster movies.
I couldn't resist and clicked on this spoiler. Thank God it wasn't a real spoiler lol. Damn you people spoiler tagging incorrectly.
I don't agree with the review making it sound worse than it is, but yeah I share some of the sentiments like...
Didn't read the Verge review but I can honestly say I disagree with all those sentiments. Especially since Wolverine didn't have his adamantium claws in the movie.
Strange. In that
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Himynameischris
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That's odd considering the stakes is them being hunted to extinction in the future...
Wolverine was wayyy too passive in this movie, not sure if he was supposed to be like that in the original comic.
Also in a world where mutants with all kinds of powers exist, Charles and Erik seems to buy in fully what Wolverine told them too easily.
Ya, I know, and that's the weird problem. The stakes are supposed to be high and it doesn't really feel like it.
Well, just one guy's opinion anyway.
I edited the one part which could be a spoiler. The others should be fine. I'll refrain from saying too much.
I fully agree that
Charlies and Erik believed too quickly but that was so they could spend more time on convincing each other and Raven.
MiamiWesker
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This is much better than Godzilla.
Freedom = $1.05
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I dunno, the Verge was pretty hot on godzilla and i felt that was a stinker. Meh. Gonna go see it for myself and it's at least as decent as First Class then i'll be happy.
Yes and no. It isn't fully time travel like get into a machine and we are there!
Also in the world of comics, people have powers and some are "Alpha" mutants who powers further expand and so she grew up and her powers developed more.
MiamiWesker
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3D is neat, doesn't change the movie at all.
I mean, it's not a huge spoiler, but seriously, there is a spoiler thread. There shouldn't be any black bars in this thread like what the fuck? I have never read the comics and only seen a trailer or two. Didn't know Kitty was the one doing the time traveling etc etc.
RedHotChimiChanga
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So what shit does Rotten Tomato filter out that metacritic has? 95 vs 7.6 is a huge difference.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Rotten Tomato's score is based on how many positive reviews there are vs negative.
Metacritic actually asks how positive an experience it was. A 7/10 might not indicate a great film, but if everybody everywhere put down 7/10, RT would give it 100% because 100% of the reviews are positive.
Don't a lot of mutants have secondary powers?
At first, phasing through objects and time travel seemed pretty unrelated to me, but I guess if you frame it as moving bodies through space and moving minds through time, it kinda fits together.
Huh? Not really sure what you're talking about...but 7.6 is the average score on Rotten Tomatoes, not Metacritic.
95 percent of critics liked the film. Of all surveyed critics, the average score so far is a 7.6 (that's actually pretty good).
SCULLIBUNDO
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Gotta love that Quicksilver crow.
They changed his look for the actual film?
SCULLIBUNDO
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Apparently the film and story surrounding the character offers this thing called context. I don't get it either, but it sounds ambitious.
Discotheque
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Just xmen crow in general, everybody around here was shitting on it since it was announced. Now it's looking like one of the goats
Don't be crazy. Let me have my presumptions.
I get what you're doing here, but does every character need to look like a slick and bonafide badass?
In DOFP, the kid's a douchy, greasy haired, teenage arcade nerd. His costume is appropriate. The headphones are perfection.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Greatest of all Time.
Himynameischris
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Greatest of all time
I never thought this movie would be as good as they say, I thought it would be average at best. So glad I'm apparently really wrong, I hope it does amazing in the boxoffice so we can get more
Was just about to post this myself. There were so many people making baseless claims that this was going to be a train-wreck - and I'm positive it's because we live in a post-MCU world where Marvel has successfully managed to brainwash people into thinking super hero movies were garbage before they started making the movies themselves.
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crimsonspider89
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QS doesn't need to look like a badass. Also character assasinated him.
QS just doesn't move fast, he thinks fast and his basic movement is too fast for normal people.
Him being laid back is not who QS is and shows Singer didn't read about him.
He is supposed to be a douche because he is FORCED to move at a slow speed.
The costume does not show who he is.
That is a MASSIVE problem.
And part of QS's core characteristic is what is called Pietro Maximoff Syndrome.
Like I said the Logan/Magneto/Xavier parts will be great, rest of characters except for Mystique are just there for power wallpaper.
QS just doesn't move fast, he thinks fast and his basic movement is too fast for normal people.
Him being laid back is not who QS is and shows Singer didn't read about him.
He is supposed to be a douche because he is FORCED to move at a slow speed.
The costume does not show who he is.
That is a MASSIVE problem.
And part of QS's core characteristic is what is called Pietro Maximoff Syndrome.
Like I said the Logan/Magneto/Xavier parts will be great, rest of characters except for Mystique are just there for power wallpaper.
No it doesn't because its dumb and overused so its kinda meaningless.
Really? I used to read a lot of Marvel when I was a teenager, and my impression of Quicksilver was always that of a detached, pretentious douchebag who spent most of his time sitting off with his sister and pretending not to care about shit. A real "let them eat cake," type of dude.
Also, that thing you're calling "character assassination," is called "adaptation" by the rest of the world...and it just so happens that this "massive problem" is probably the best part of the film.
With something as open to interpretation as comic book lore, it's hard to argue that Singer is butchering characters. No one's forcing you to like his take on the lore more than anyone else's. It's not like we're sitting here shouting "SINGER'S X-MEN IS CANON X-MEN". No one is shouting that, because nobody cares.
SCULLIBUNDO
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How do you know the costume doesn't show who he is? Have you seen DofP? Or are you basing who he is on material that isn't the movie in question?
crimsonspider89
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Established in PAD's X-Factor. Reason why he is a douche.
Your job is to bring the CHARACTER to the movie while maintaining who that character is.
He should not be laid back should be an douche who rolls his eyes at people when talking and such.
The costume makes no sense. I won't eat crow, because everything I said is true.
Singer has no understanding of the property and is still attempting to "fix" comic book which it doesn't.
EDIT: Yes Sculley a character who goes fast and considers fashion pointless is so going to dress in fashion with loose clothes Come on man.
heliosRAzi
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Sounds like the complaints of a comic book nerd
his job is to adapt the source material to film in a way that resonates with audiences and results in a return for fox
his job is not to literally translate the comic book panel for panel
SCULLIBUNDO
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Crimson, you waste an awful lot of words in trying to make that basic complaint every time. We get it. It's not like the comic books.
crimsonspider89
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Okay again where did I say to translate it for panel and panel?
When you do an adaptation, you need to maintain the character's core personalities.
ALso trying to remember, how much did Avengers/Cap2/IM make again?
And how much did the past X-Men movies make and MoS make which were all attempts to "fix" the comic book problem? So which one do audiences want then?
Why this is an exception for comic books and video games I have no idea. If they did it to books, people would scream for there heads.
When you do an adaptation, you need to maintain the character's core personalities.
ALso trying to remember, how much did Avengers/Cap2/IM make again?
And how much did the past X-Men movies make and MoS make which were all attempts to "fix" the comic book problem? So which one do audiences want then?
Why this is an exception for comic books and video games I have no idea. If they did it to books, people would scream for there heads.
Himynameischris
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Just like the MCU is it's own universe compared to the other Marvel universes, The X-Men movies take place in their own universe and shouldn't be directly compared to the original comics. The movies are just another take from another person based on these characters, they have off shoots in comics all the time with different characters crossing timelines, universes, etc but they don't count towards the main canon, this is no different. If you don't like it that's fine but finding fault in them because they aren't 'close' the the source material is just dumb.
if his name wasn't quicksilver and was just a totally new character. would you still be so bothered by it?
This is the larger problem I find with comic book fans.
Instead of whether the movie is actually good and whether the components work well within the context of the movie, you seem to focus more on whether everything is as faithful as possible to the comic books.
It's why you have Marvel movies which are mostly shit but comic book fans like them so much because it reminds them of what they read.
Basically, what I'm saying is, fuck your properties.
And this also is quite sensible:
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