Watch_Dogs PC performance thread [Read post #1215 before posting]

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AndyBNV

Nvidia
Hmm, annoyed that the NVidia tweak guide cheat sheet at the bottom aims for 35FPS, the 60FPS ones would have been more useful for me. But it's looks like everything being High will work for me.

In the most intensive moments. That works out at 45+ the rest of the time. If I set it to locked 60 it'd be a rather depressing table.
 
I sort of sympathize with Ubisoft employees here.

The project was ridiculously ambitious to start with. But to then try and cater for 360, PS3, XB1, PS4 and then sign an nVidia deal with them expecting a showcase PC title.... it was always going to be hard going.

As usual in life, the money men have made decisions and imposed them on the guys expected to deliver it. If it doesn't pan out, the same poor saps will be getting the bullet.

I would have pushed it back until the winter months before Christmas and optimized it to perfection, but no doubt the ones holding the purse strings were having none of it.

Pushing it to the winter months is a terrible idea though. There's a ton of competition then and they would have dramatically less sales. May is wide open for a summer blockbuster.

I also see that PC players are more interested in graphics based on this thread. Which isn't really surprising I guess.
 

Dewoh

Neo Member
With 2GB, he/she would likely experience heavy stuttering when using Ultra Textures.

So the stuttering is due to the GPU limit, and not because it needs a patch?

I've got a 670, 2gb. Bummed that it already requires an upgrade.

Are there any good Ultra vs High comparisons available yet?
 

AndyBNV

Nvidia
So the stuttering is due to the GPU limit, and not because it needs a patch?

I've got a 670, 2gb. Bummed that it already requires an upgrade.

Are there any good Ultra vs High comparisons available yet?

If you select the 3GB Ultra texture option with a 2GB GPU, yes, there will definitely be stuttering, because the game has to constantly load and unload textures. For people who do have sufficient VRAM or the correct option selected, stuttering appears to be coming from other sources. However, the sample size of people running on the new driver with a legit copy of the game and the day 1 patch is basically zero, so we can't draw any conclusions as of yet.

As for comparisons between the settings, see http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/watch-dogs-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide
 

Smash88

Banned
I find it hard to believe that someone would have told you that. Its not that I don't trust your word, after all you don't have to look very far to find idiocy on the internet, just having a tough time wrapping my head around the shear incompetence and ignorance.

In fact, I am running out of adjectives to accurately describe just how foolish such a statement would be.

Sure, 5 years ago it was difficult to recommend a processor such as an i7 with hyper-threading as they were expensive and there weren't many multi-threaded applications. We knew that would change going forward even without the exact specs of the next-gen consoles to go off of.

You should hit up reddit. /r/buildapac is notorious for suggesting i5's over i7's - claiming you do not need an i7 unless streaming, video editing, etc. Of course what I'm stating is people who have built their PCs with the 4770k and told otherwise - those with lesser budgets are usually given good advice.

It has become a terrible precedence, and any opinion differing from that view, makes you a moron who doesn't know anything about computers.

Whatever, now they can all enjoy their 2GB VRAM cards with their 4GB RAM computers and their i5's. While I sit here laughing with my i7 4770k and GTX Titan.
 
So the stuttering is due to the GPU limit, and not because it needs a patch?

I've got a 670, 2gb. Bummed that it already requires an upgrade.

Are there any good Ultra vs High comparisons available yet?

It doesn't require an upgrade. 90% of all releases will run fine for the foreseeable future. This one just won't. Even upgrading, it's not going to look significantly better than it does on high settings with your current card. I'm waiting for the GTX 880, hopefully just before Witcher 3 comes out.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
I'm running an i7 2600k OC to 4.6 ghz with sli gtx 670s , 2GB cards unfortunately. How will my rig fare with the game?

Assuming you have 8GB RAM, we've precisely the same specs, although I still use a 1680x1050 monitor. Here's my take:

Judging from the 680 SLI recommendations I think I'll cap the game to 30fps and max it out save for AA (temporal SMAA) and textures (high, seeing as my cards are 2GB).

The 680 SLI listing seems to favour reducing the shader setting a notch for the sake of 4x TXAA, but I can't stand the associated texture blur and 4x MSAA is too much of a hog, so I'll be going with SMAA and putting the additional rendering resources towards Ultra shaders.

Edit: Oh, wait, there is no Ultra shader setting!
 

hwalker84

Member
i7 4930k OC @ 4.3Ghz
32GB Ram
2x GTX 670 2GB

What am I expecting. Seems like reading through this thread my GPU's are the bottleneck.
 

Timu

Member
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Wow, this game wants the best it seems!
 

hengyu

Member
So the stuttering is due to the GPU limit, and not because it needs a patch?

I've got a 670, 2gb. Bummed that it already requires an upgrade.

Are there any good Ultra vs High comparisons available yet?

I've got a 4GB 670 and the game is completely unplayable on Ultra textures
 

scitek

Member
Well, that makes me feel slightly better. In a good thing I didn't spend hundreds more only to get the same results kind of way.

Like I mentioned earlier, someone in this thread said they have a Titan and couldn't play with Ultra textures, either, so I think there's just something up with that setting at the moment. It's still probably not going to be playable on 2GB cards. though, and to be honest, if you've seen the comparisons between High and Ultra textures, the difference definitely isn't worth a hardware upgrade. I think I'm just going to wait for the Nvidia 800 series at this point.
 

hengyu

Member
Like I mentioned earlier, someone in this thread said they have a Titan and couldn't play with Ultra textures, either, so I think there's just something up with that setting at the moment. It's still probably not going to be playable on 2GB cards. though, and to be honest, if you've seen the comparisons between High and Ultra textures, the difference definitely isn't worth a hardware upgrade. I think I'm just going to wait for the Nvidia 800 series at this point.

Now this makes me feel slightly better too
 
Assuming you have 8GB RAM, we've precisely the same specs, although I still use a 1680x1050 monitor. Here's my take:



The 680 SLI listing seems to favour reducing the shader setting a notch for the sake of 4x TXAA, but I can't stand the associated texture blur and 4x MSAA is too much of a hog, so I'll be going with SMAA and putting the additional rendering resources towards Ultra shaders.

Yeah seems like we have exactly the same specs. Running at 1080 as long as I can maintain above 40 fps I should be fine. Playing through AC4 before the patches man was that frame rate all over the place.
 

Dewoh

Neo Member
Like I mentioned earlier, someone in this thread said they have a Titan and couldn't play with Ultra textures, either, so I think there's just something up with that setting at the moment. It's still probably not going to be playable on 2GB cards. though, and to be honest, if you've seen the comparisons between High and Ultra textures, the difference definitely isn't worth a hardware upgrade. I think I'm just going to wait for the Nvidia 800 series at this point.

Yeah, I actually have 2 670s sli, and am waiting for the 800 series to upgrade. I might just hold off on Watch Dogs until then. Depending on how well high runs, and if there is a noticeable difference, I suppose.
 

AndyBNV

Nvidia
The 680 SLI listing seems to favour reducing the shader setting a notch for the sake of 4x TXAA, but I can't stand the associated texture blur and 4x MSAA is too much of a hog, so I'll be going with SMAA and putting the additional rendering resources towards Ultra shaders.

Everything is maxed in my table with 680 - only difference is Texture quality for the 2GB and 4GB versions. You could easily enable 4xMSAA instead.

Great guide thanks!

Thanks!

This guide is fantastic!

Thanks.

does the new driver support the GTX 660m ?

Yep.

How have you hidden the HUD? Also I'm running at 4K, but on SLI it's very choppy/stuttery.

I'm a ninja with debug .exes, but you can do it too with some config file changes. Details are in this section: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/gu...ide#config-file-tweaking-and-advanced-options
 
In the most intensive moments. That works out at 45+ the rest of the time. If I set it to locked 60 it'd be a rather depressing table.

I agree with your assessment. Minimum of 35 fps, with average of 45-50 fps is what I aim to get when I tweak games (supposing I can't have 60 fps, of course).
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Everything is maxed in my table with 680 - only difference is Texture quality for the 2GB and 4GB versions. You could easily enable 4xMSAA instead.

Ah, I thought shader quality went up to Ultra for some reason, haha.
 

pahamrick

Member
Man, seeing how often AndyNV posts in some of the bigger release threads is just another reason I'm planning on ditching my HD5870s and grabbing a 770 soon as I can afford to.

The few times I've tried to ask questions to folks on the AMD side on social media, I've always been straight up ignored.
 

Skyzard

Banned
I wish Nvidia UK would hurry up with those 6GB 780ti versions, my step-up program doesn't last forever! Sounds like 3GB won't cut it.
 

Arkanius

Member
25% performance increase with the new AMD drivers?
ahwww yisss

Catalyst 14.6 will also provide performance boost to Watch Dogs, Thief and Murdered Soul Suspect (which is not yet released). You should expect 25-28% better performance in Watch Dogs with the new drivers. Catalyst 14.6 also has new CrossFire profiles specificly for WD. AMD claims it will provide up to 99% scaling to Watch Dogs.
 

lowrider007

Licorice-flavoured booze?
I know I've said it before but when can we expect CPU benches from a trusted site? HARD OCP did a Wolfenstein performance review but they didn't do a CPU comparison which was annoying, I mentioned it in the comments and hopefully they will include it in a Watch Dogs performance review.
 

Arkanius

Member
I know I've said it before but when can we expect CPU benches from a trusted site? HARD OCP did a Wolfenstein performance review but they didn't do a CPU comparison which was annoying, I mentioned it in the comments and hopefully they will include it in a Watch Dogs performance review.

Anandtech does good CPU benchmarks
 

Aeana

Member
A friendly reminder that if you're posting impressions and have not provided me proof of purchase then there will be consequences.
 

SoulClap

Member
i7 3820 @ 4.5Ghz
8GB RAM
GTX 680

For someone who likes shiny things I'm debating between reflections on ultra and shadows high or reflections high and shadows ultra as indicated in the guide. What say you Andy?
 

hitoshi

Member
So after pledging at least 3 times before that I never ever will pay for a Uplay product (I still can not download and install my retail copy of Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon) I was dumb enough to get excited because of this thread over the weekend and buy the game today.

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Of course I have deserved what I got: the game does not run for me. The first blow was having only the stupid Hungarian translation (no option to change it to English, which is a HUGE disgrace), and I have not gotten over that, until I clicked on new game and the game crashed. Over and over again. I can reach the main menu fine, but as soon as I start playing, it boots me back to Windows. I have up to date drivers, reinstalled DirectX, DotnetFX, VC Redist, verified game files. No dice. I have wrote to the support but I don't hold my breath about it, every time I had a problem with a Uplay game I always get the "update your drivers" message. 60 euros wasted. So great.

(Yes, I meet the system requirements: i5 3570, 8GB RAM, Radeon HD 7850 2GB)

Faulting application name: Watch_Dogs.exe, version: 0.1.0.1, időbélyeg: 0x537507a1
Faulting module name: Disrupt_b64.dll, version: 0.0.0.0, timestamp: 0x5375077c
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000000ae669f
Faulting process id: 0xd1c
Faulting application start time: 0x01cf78fe6202c65b
Faulting application path: E:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\Watch_Dogs CZEHUN\bin\Watch_Dogs.exe
Faulting module path: E:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\Watch_Dogs CZEHUN\bin\Disrupt_b64.dll
Report Id: 6b24926b-e4f2-11e3-9a12-902b3462b3aa
 

Wag

Member
According to that Nvidia page, 4k unlocks some magical features in the game that aren't available in any other mode. I wonder what it is? I'm running it 3440x1440 21:9 w/3 Titans, so I should be able to take advantage of all the benefits that 4k has to offer. There must be a way in the configure file to unlock it.
 

cripterion

Member
Man, seeing how often AndyNV posts in some of the bigger release threads is just another reason I'm planning on ditching my HD5870s and grabbing a 770 soon as I can afford to.

The few times I've tried to ask questions to folks on the AMD side on social media, I've always been straight up ignored.

Just come over to the green side, grass is greener as you know ;)
 
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