Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!

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Huh? This is going off of the 3DS demo select screen, which featured 24 squares per page. If feel like you can't shrink down those spaces anymore without making them too small (especially on OG 3DS). I'm not quite sure what you mean by "the rest".
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I know I'm breaking my own rule by responding to you, but here's an absolutely insane idea:
3 pages.
 
It's BS.

There is no way, that within the past 6 months, Sakurai (on a whim) decided to scrap a character, and then turn them into someone else's final smash. If you believe that, then I've got some stock options to sell you.

The betting odds are still too good to not bet on. The point is, the roster was drafted over 2 years ago, and at the time Chrom was on it. I don't know how this doesn't seem plausible to you? Chrom sounded good on paper at the time, but when it came to developing him, they realized they'd rather try someone else. Based on everything else, I'm very confident Shulk and Chorus men are still happening, giving the piles of evidence they have haha.
 
Just give Lucina the first set of customizable moves and you have a brand new character to play as. Haha. I'm most definitely going to that, just to make it seem that way.
 
It's BS.

There is no way, that within the past 6 months, Sakurai (on a whim) decided to scrap a character, and then turn them into someone else's final smash. If you believe that, then I've got some stock options to sell you.

yeah, I don't like to think that Sakurai just made this to prove wrong the leaks, it would be stupid, since Palutena became an actual characters and the the first 6 leaked characters got confirmed... perhaps Chrom will be the infamous day one dlc character? oh well, who knows, I am still okay if he is out, the only thing I will miss is his japanese voice actor, and I don't think we will have dual audio this time around, so whatever
 
That is full blow denial, son.

And how would that even play out? How could he have confused Chrom and not any of the Assist Trophies?

Its full blown denial to say that the leaker did NOT have insider evidence, providing up until this morning, he had a perfect record. He called 6/6 on leak one, and so for 2/5 on two, with mounds of evidence for a RH rep and Shulk. Even Chrom was outdated, you would be the one in denial to say that calling 10/11 characters never happened.
 
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/13/wii-u-and-3ds-smash-bros-will-not-have-cross-platform-play-wil/

Has this been posted? Sakurai interviewed by Joystiq seems to dislike the idea of costumes for characters as it takes away their "uniqueness."

He wouldn't elaborate on exactly what those customization are, saying only that they won't be costumes and they won't be something that players have to unlock through repetitive tasks. Different costumes, he said, would take away from what makes each character unique. He also wanted to avoid boring, repetitive tasks, while Sora works to produce a "stress free, easy connectivity" between the two versions.

Like I said way back when that quote popped up for the first time, it sounds like he's talking about custom costumes (like, say, in Tekken 6/TTT2) and denying that they'd be the customization he talked about, not preset costumes.
 
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Captain Falcon's amiibo is gonna be soooo dope.

Oh snap. I wonder if Robin'll be a twofer, since so far it seems like Amiibos are just based on their character render.

Now that S.H Figuarts has the Nintendo license I'm really hoping they make a Captain Falcon at some point. It could be the greatest Nintendo figure ever.
 
My Thoughts on the Final Smash 4 Roster

- I still think that we're getting Shulk & the Chorus Kids. For the latter, there's the Rhythm Heaven enemy in Smash Run, an honor for franchises with playable characters (even if it's not the Chorus Kids, it's gonna be some kind of Rhythm Heaven character like the Marshal or Karate Joe). Shulk, even if he wasn't revealed today, I still think is gonna get in due to his cult popularity & the rise in relevance that Xenoblade went through. Plus, even though the reveal didn't occur today, Monolith is a bit too supportive of Smash 4 (& there's the hints from Shulk's English VA).
- I also think that they're gonna knock out the rest of the Original 12 with the 2 newcomers mentioned above. Ness will probably be with Shulk since they both come from RPGs with cult followings, & Jigglypuff will be with the Chorus Kids (or whoever from Rhythm Heaven gets in), as they all sing.
- As for Lucas, I think he now has a chance to return, now that we know that Sal's source isn't entirely accurate. This would also throw the possibility of DLC into question.
- With Lucina being most likely a Marth clone, this also raises the question of Dark Pit, who was teased in the Palutena trailer. Honestly, I think Pitoo is gonna get the Lucina treatment. He was teased too obviously to be just for nothing. Could he have different weapons from Uprising, sure, but I'm not sure if that'll happen.
- I honestly don't think Ridley or King K. Rool will get in. It's just my gut feeling, really. I just don't see them making the cut (more so the latter seeing as he's not even mentioned in recent DKC games).
- Mewtwo might have a legitimate chance at returning, if you ask me. He's just too popular & the outcry of his removal (due to Sonic, not Lucario) was too large.
- I'm pretty sure Snake's gone, as we already have 3 third party characters who fit Smash much better, & that his Final Smash was passed on to Zero Suit Samus. Plus by now, Kojima would have teased us about Snake, not say that Sakurai is welcome to use Snake if he wants.

The rest is anyone's game.
 
Actually clones will work perfectly well for this game. If for example Lucinas default set of moves were Marths second set of customizable moves, then when playing online Lucina will have to be very different. Going by this logic even Pichu would be cool to have.
 
I'm been thinking, what if the trailer hinted at the fact that it will be possible in Smash 4 to dodge-cancel a Falcon Punch?

No way it's happening, but the metagame resulting from that change would be INSANE.
 
Its full blown denial to say that the leaker did NOT have insider evidence, providing up until this morning, he had a perfect record. He called 6/6 on leak one, and so for 2/5 on two, with mounds of evidence for a RH rep and Shulk. Even Chrom was outdated, you would be the one in denial to say that calling 10/11 characters never happened.

I'm not in denial. He had a great record, but obviously something isn't right with his incoming info. There could be countless reasons as to why this is.

All I'm saying is it throws into question everything thing else that hasn't been confirmed yet. Lucas might not be on the chopping block, and DLC characters might not be a thing.

We could also argue the perfect record thing, (vague pokemon, no rosalina) but I'm not really up for that conversation. It's been done to death.
 
Oh snap. I wonder if Robin'll be a twofer, since so far it seems like Amiibos are just based on their character render.

Now that S.H Figuarts has the Nintendo license I'm really hoping they make a Captain Falcon at some point. It could be the greatest Nintendo figure ever.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a series 2 with alts at some point so that we get some of the gender swaps represented.

Not that I have any particular hopes for a He Fit Trainer amiibo, nope.
 
I was so excited about this morning's announcement. It was out of the blue for me, as I was expected just one character, and was mostly expecting the announcement of a past character (I was particularly convinced the announcement would have been Ness or Captain Falcon).

When I saw Lucina, I couldn't believe my eyes! It was a real shock, and a great female addition to the roster. Captain Falcon and Robin afterward were just icing on the cake after Lucina's announcement, in my opinion.

I'm going to guess that there will only be a couple more characters announced before release, since the game releases on the 3DS in Japan in two months. Ness is an absolute. If he's not included, I'm going to be sorely disappointed, as he has always been my favorite character. Otherwise, there really aren't a lot of realistic options left. Maybe Ice Climbers, maybe Game and Watch, maybe Mewtwo, or maybe even a surprise character from Xenoblade Chronicles, like Shulk or Fiora.

Really curious to find out the final roster! And I'm even more excited for September 13! SMASH BROS!!
 
So for those who played Fire Emblem Awakening (I didn't), do these characters retain the same voice actors from the original game?

Lucina sounds like Laura Bailey, and I looked it up, and she did her voice in Awakening as well. Don't know about Chrom or either Robin, though.

And has Marth ever had an English voice, or is he just gonna speak Japanese forever in Smash Bros.?
 
Robin looks so amazing, I am definitely gonna try to main him. I wonder how his magic books all work, exactly?

Also, loving how thoroughly and completely Sal Romano's dumb leak has been exposed for what it is - a fake. :D
 
The ammount of models in this particular game makes me think this is not how it would happen.
That is full blow denial, son.

And how would that even play out? How could he have confused Chrom and not any of the Assist Trophies?
Likely, it wasn't just any list of models, but a list of models that needed a lot of animation work done on them.

Full-blown denial is thinking the leak has no merit at all. You just don't guess the stuff he has.

If you think we'll get another 24 characters, be my guest, but I think that's a little too optimistic.
Not another 24, but there are other options:
Larger icons.
Non-character icons (1 random select icon per page).
Empty space (where do you think potential DLC is going with your perfect 48 plan?)


Not that insane actually.

What if, instead of shrinking the icons, they make them bigger?
Quite possible.
 
How do we get that in Pokemon y?

in omega ruby and alpha sapphire (might have something to do with contests)

So for those who played Fire Emblem Awakening (I didn't), do these characters retain the same voice actors from the original game?

Lucina sounds like Laura Bailey, and I looked it up, and she did her voice in Awakening as well. Don't know about Chrom or either Robin, though.

And has Marth ever had an English voice, or is he just gonna speak Japanese forever in Smash Bros.?

personally id rather marth keep his japanese voice since i think it also adds to his character also just from hearing the cast it seems the awakening cast is all the same va's with robin's voice being vanilla robin
 
- With Lucina being most likely a Marth clone, this also raises the question of Dark Pit, who was teased in the Palutena trailer. Honestly, I think Pitoo is gonna get the Lucina treatment. He was teased too obviously to be just for nothing. Could he have different weapons from Uprising, sure, but I'm not sure if that'll happen.

The idea has merit, but if Dark Pit was a playable character while Dark Samus was just an assist trophy, that'd be messed up.
 
So for those who played Fire Emblem Awakening (I didn't), do these characters retain the same voice actors from the original game?

Lucina sounds like Laura Bailey, and I looked it up, and she did her voice in Awakening as well. Don't know about Chrom or either Robin, though.

And has Marth ever had an English voice, or is he just gonna speak Japanese forever in Smash Bros.?

Definitely their original voices.

Probably.
 
Not another 24, but there are other options:
Larger icons.
Non-character icons (1 random select icon per page).
Empty space (where do you think potential DLC is going with your perfect 48 plan?)
Eh, I guess it's possible, but it doesn't seem terribly likely. Unless a character like Dark Pit is confirmed, 50 characters seem like a safe bet. And of course, DLC would have it's own page.

Everything we know now seems like it fits a little too perfectly if you know what I'm saying.
 
im not saying a RH character might not get in but what would peoples reactions be if its not the chorus boys but someone else from RH?

I love the Luchadore dude. Never played HR though.

Anyway, my idea regarding Rayman's trophy:

If you remember, in Brawl trophies were divided by franchises (Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Sonic, and then the "Other" page"). Now, I think Sakurai is going all-out with trophies, bringing their number to new insane records (I'm expecting at least a thousand of them).
I also think that he wants to represent Nintendo's history in the largest way possible, including even more third parties even if not playable.
The trophies will be divided in two parts first: Nintendo and Third Party (with a different name probably). The first will be divided itself in the different Nintendo franchises, while the other one will be divided by developer. So we'd have Namco/Bandai's part with Pac-Man, the Galaga ships and other things. We'd also have Capcom with a variety of Mega Man trophies, and even some by Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, Phoenix Wright. We could have the trophy for Ryu without him being playable, or maybe with him being an assist trophy. Konami will have Snake, Belmont and other stuff.
Now, probably the developer could have one character playable, in this case the mascot of their house. So maybe Rayman will still turn out playable, but I have no idea at this point.
I simply would love something like this to happen. Also that hint at the end of Pac-Man's trailer regarding the date makes me think that some sort of "timeline" mode will be available, when you'll be able to pass through a series of different images of many games (simple frames or screenshots) of all the franchises to see their evolution, and compare it with others, similar to that History mode in Brawl which was interesting but pretty basic.
 
So for those who played Fire Emblem Awakening (I didn't), do these characters retain the same voice actors from the original game?

Lucina sounds like Laura Bailey, and I looked it up, and she did her voice in Awakening as well. Don't know about Chrom or either Robin, though.

And has Marth ever had an English voice, or is he just gonna speak Japanese forever in Smash Bros.?
Chrom's definitely Matthew Mercer. Robin had 3 voices per gender, 6 total, so I'd have to boot up Awakening again to remember which is which. Sounds similar to the one I chose for Male Robin. Not sure about Female Robin.
 
in omega ruby and alpha sapphire (might have something to do with contests)



personally id rather marth keep his japanese voice since i think it also adds to his character also just from hearing the cast it seems the awakening cast is all the same va's with robin's voice being vanilla robin

Ah I see. Thanks!
 
So for those who played Fire Emblem Awakening (I didn't), do these characters retain the same voice actors from the original game?

Lucina sounds like Laura Bailey, and I looked it up, and she did her voice in Awakening as well. Don't know about Chrom or either Robin, though.

And has Marth ever had an English voice, or is he just gonna speak Japanese forever in Smash Bros.?

I only noticed Lucina's voice, both JP and ENG, and yes it's still the same
 
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