Mikey Jr.
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I know. That's why I said sold to consumers.
MS: Xbox One June 2014 sales more than double May 2014's sales
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I know. That's why I said sold to consumers.
Chobel
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NPD also tracks sell-through numbers, and the numbers we got from NPD are the sell-through numbers.
It cushioned a downward spiral. That's something.
Mikey Jr.
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Ohh it does? My bad.
boredandlazy
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What the hell? So he buys a PS4 for better multiplats, then sells it because XB1 has (apparently) better media features, but worse multiplats?
Fickle is the first word that comes to mind.
Mix Master
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more reason why yusuf and phil harrison need to be gone, xbox will never prosper with them there.
Dragonborn
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By comparing April (pre price cut) weekly vs. the assumed June figures which makes it seem like the price cut did nothing at all.
True, who knows how bad it could have been.
shacklesmcgee
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Yeah, my bad I got confused because isn't it usually sold to and sold through? You threw me off ha
Poimandres
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He had an Xbone, sold it for a PS4, then sold his PS4 for another Xbone.
All I can say is "I wanna see the receipts"
Announcement crapped the may npd to 77, so when combined to now guessed 154k, it would mean 115k/month what is same as april.
Yup. It's all spin. The news is bad.
When is the last time a console got a bump this small after a price drop? Anyone want to sift through NPD and see what's really at the end of the rabbit hole?
FaultTolerance
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you contradicting yourself?
PanicFreak
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Everyone is assuming that they are talking about monthly sales, but could it be weekly? I personally doubt it given that PR is prone to double speak but that would make for a much better June for them.
FaultTolerance
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But they said "more than double", so that would mean more than 154k.
People are getting silly with their math in here.
ethomaz
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Put it at April level... ~30k per week.
Sounds pretty much terrible to me.
Preemptive press statement for the fact that PS4 is still ahead, <200k sales in 5 weeks month. Probably around 160k units sold with part of the sales from May shifted into June because of the well known price cut in June.
And in the near future the competition has more exclusive games or games with exclusive contents and marketing deals coming (TLOU, Diablo 3 Ultimate Edition and Destiny).
This looks more and more like the PS3 situation which struggled to reach a good position in the US market because of the early missteps and lost mindshare, but at least Sony had european and japanese sales going for them, while for MS this is their biggest market.
Preemptive press statement for the fact that PS4 is still ahead, <200k sales in 5 weeks month. Probably around 160k units sold with part of the sales from May shifted into June because of the well known price cut in June.
And in the near future the competition has more exclusive games or games with exclusive contents and marketing deals coming (TLOU, Diablo 3 Ultimate Edition and Destiny).
This looks more and more like the PS3 situation which struggled to reach a good position in the US market because of the early missteps and lost mindshare, but at least Sony had european and japanese sales going for them, while for MS this is their biggest market.
^ This.
metalslimer
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Yeah I see this system staying in a big slump until 299. They need a big reason for people to pick up the system and nothing this year seems to be that with the ps4 still there as well.
Mikey Jr.
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The problem is it gets compared directly to the ps4.
I think pachter made the estimate that ps4 sold 255k and it had the exact same no release month.
Price parity and your competitor is beating you by 100k in your strongest region is something to worry about.
probably higher.
154 is double... if its really more than double than its anywhere between 154 and 231.
Steverulez
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Theres only so many publishers and whilst it won't be the case for every title I think theres still a perfectly viable market for exclusive games on Xbox One given a level of support (especially marketing money) that developers might get from Microsoft publishing and funding a title vs third party publishers.
As I said, its not the case for every title nor but if MS pick something up - with a deal that suits both parties a title can still be very successful (EA partners is a good example of what I mean, if you look at how people like Epic and Insomniac went to them for multi platform money and look how the titles amongst many others performed)
They certainly could do with boosting their internal studios though
metalslimer
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Its not going to be over 200. PR would have been worded different
ethomaz
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If it was 200k they will say more than 2.5x or something else... it is like when they say over 3 million that means over 3 but less than 3.1.
Pretty much they sold close to 154 than 200.
I was thinking this too. Ohh well, I think I'll do alright for a first attempt at it.
SwiftDeath
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200k would be ~2.6 times as much as May's 77k
Doesn't "More than two and a half times May's sales" sound better than double?
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Doesn't "More than two and a half times May's sales" sound better than double?
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RyanPierre
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To be fair, news outlets don't have any official figures for Xbox One May sales to go by, correct? The only numbers we have are the leaks here. Though I suppose they could have mentioned that Microsoft's standard sales PR statement was missing last month.
Mass Effect
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Oh, well then I guess we'll see. I think their best bet is a MC Bundle, which is probably pretty likely at this point.
You have to search the thread. The OP doesn't get updated with leaked numbers (for obvious reasons).
Man, the console market is rough at the moment.
I'm still not 100% sure whether the generally lacklustre sales for all the consoles so far this 2014 (yeah I'm including the PS4 - in a vacuum it's selling well - but when we're talking about the market as a whole it's pretty underwhelming) is due to the record breaking sales at launch last year, or just because the console market has contracted significantly. At the moment I'm leaning heavily towards the latter.
I'm still not 100% sure whether the generally lacklustre sales for all the consoles so far this 2014 (yeah I'm including the PS4 - in a vacuum it's selling well - but when we're talking about the market as a whole it's pretty underwhelming) is due to the record breaking sales at launch last year, or just because the console market has contracted significantly. At the moment I'm leaning heavily towards the latter.
You people are very confident about PS4 winning...
You are not counting the PS4 returns per second.
You are not counting the PS4 returns per second.
ArtificialIntelligence
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Xbone will be sold in 15+ EU countries in September 5. I know it's only US sales but i think herd mentality will effect US customers too
It contracted because all the casuals that bought the wii moved to phones/tablets
that's amazing.
SwiftDeath
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XB1 is already being sold in the majority of those countries simply on the gray market or if you're British the grey market
It's never brought up that NPD simply tracks that a console has gone over the counter, not which way. The PS4 is still tracking higher, but those might just be the many returns from early adopters who have seen the light and bought an Xbox One instead.
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And will do little, they are sold in all those countries now.
ultratruman
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If the Wii U did outsell the Xbone, I wonder if Nintendo would make it official and publicly declare the Wii U as the second best selling home console. It would be quite an achievement, but I'm not sure whether they'd want to phrase it that way.
Steverulez
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Thing is, if those markets were so important to them they'd have been scrambling their arses together to get the console out there soon than 10 months or so later.
They will get a boost (not a big one by any means) in those regions but I don't think it will do that much.
US and UK were the two biggest markets for them, that is what will hurt them more than other markets.
BlackBuzzard
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Dont worry he owns all the systems, so he must be telling the truth.
Dragonborn
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No, I answered your question, asking me why I said what I did. Then I admitted that I was wrong to make that assertion since things could have been worse.
Jimmyfenix
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Welp Pack it up sony.
Reggie did say he expects xbox in third place.
ArtificialIntelligence
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Yes but MS can't give the exact results of sales in EU. There are a lot of NTSC-U consoles in my country and everybody is trying to get a PAL one. If I was an US customer, I would think that "Aha Xbone sold XXX K units in EU. If this was a bad console it couldn't sell that much. I'll buy Xbone"
shacklesmcgee
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Wait, for real? I didn't know that
FaultTolerance
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