MS: Xbox One June 2014 sales more than double May 2014's sales

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I'm not trying to proclaim doom and gloom here, but at what point does Microsoft feel they need to start doing drastic things? Phil seems like the perfect guy to lead Xbox, so I think they are on the right track. I just really, really don't want Microsoft to feel like they need to start buying some big profile third party exclusives.

MS falling behind prevents that for the most part though. Their main strategy since the 360 released has been to leverage marketshare to moneyhat content away from the competitor's device. When no one is buying your console and you are behind in the sales race by 4 or 5 million consoles, that isn't a cheap option. No sane publisher is gonna give up all that sweet ps4 revenue to make something XBone exclusive unless MS backs up a dump truck full of money, something they'll have more difficulty doing the more and more pressure the games division is under to stay in the black.
 
I'm curious to see where MS goes from here.
If I were Nadella I'd probably scale down the Xbox team, cancel any work on future hardware, and try to eke out an underwhelming but profitable few years before shutting the whole thing down.

Try and spin what you can of the Xbox brand into services like Xbox music, video, etc.

We know big changes are going on at Microsoft, this poor performance comes at exactly the wrong time.
 
MS falling behind prevents that for the most part though. Their main strategy since the 360 released has been to leverage marketshare to moneyhat content away from the competitor's device. When no one is buying your console and you are behind in the sales race by 4 or 5 million consoles, that isn't a cheap option. No sane publisher is gonna give up all that sweet ps4 revenue to make something XBone exclusive unless MS backs up a dump truck full of money, something they'll have more difficulty doing the more and more pressure the games division is under to stay in the black.

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If I were Nadella I'd probably scale down the Xbox team, cancel any work on future hardware, and try to eke out an underwhelming but profitable few years before shutting the whole thing down.

We know big changes are going on at Microsoft, this poor performance comes at exactly the wrong time.

I can't imagine there is any way in hell the Xbox brand would get shut down just because the Xbone is doing mediocre. The brand is worth too much and could easily be sold.
 
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I can't imagine there is any way in hell the Xbox brand would get shut down just because the Xbone is doing mediocre. The brand is worth too much and could easily be sold.
This is Microsoft, they'd try to sell the $499 Kinect bundle to the prospective buyer, figuratively speaking.
 
It blows my mind that people buy and sell consoles that quickly.


It's not like everyone has access to a community-based forum that discusses the positives and negatives of games and the consoles to play them on, some people can't make that informed decision.
 
MS falling behind prevents that for the most part though. Their main strategy since the 360 released has been to leverage marketshare to moneyhat content away from the competitor's device. When no one is buying your console and you are behind in the sales race by 4 or 5 million consoles, that isn't a cheap option. No sane publisher is gonna give up all that sweet ps4 revenue to make something XBone exclusive unless MS backs up a dump truck full of money, something they'll have more difficulty doing the more and more pressure the games division is under to stay in the black.

(controversial opinion time.)

Which is why I secretly wish that MS will forever remain behind Sony/Nintendo.
Nintendo = rarely buy exclusives.
Sony = too poor to buy exclusives.
MS = not in good position to buy exclusives.

Overall = less 3rd party exclusives.

In addition, desperate MS seems to dump money at consumers when dev/publishers aren't taking their money.
 
What we are discussing about shutting down Xbox or selling it off now based on June NPD that's expected to be decent in sales?

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A couple thoughts...

First, all the nay-sayers who said MS shouldnt decouple the Xbone from Kinect need to eat a big plate of crow.

Second, although this is a step in the right direction, these numbers arent that impressive relative to what everyone expects for PS4 numbers. Its becoming more and more evident how badly MS screwed the pooch by making the Xbone under-powered as a design strategy in order to force Kinect in every box and keep the price under $500. They would have been much better off designing a more powerful console at the same price and offering kinect separately.

On a side note, both of my Kinect 2.0 units are sitting in their original Day One boxes unused and un-missed. Selling on eBay is looking like a good strategy.
 
What we are discussing about shutting down Xbox or selling it off now based on June NPD that's expected to be decent in sales?

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Not sure I'd quantify the sales to be decent when they're likely worse than nearly every single June the Xbox 360 ever had in the US, in a price drop month.
 
Wow, I got quoted a lot there and I think my post wasn't as clear as I meant it to be. I was mostly referring to the fact that XB1 was selling poorly in Europe already and they aren't really supporting it fully. Not sure this post even clarifies but I wasn't trying to reject the reality of the situation.
 
(controversial opinion time.)

Which is why I secretly wish that MS will forever remain behind Sony/Nintendo.
Nintendo = rarely buy exclusives.
Sony = too poor to buy exclusives.
MS = not in good position to buy exclusives.

Overall = less 3rd party exclusives.

In addition, desperate MS seems to dump money at consumers when dev/publishers aren't taking their money.

Really? Didn't they moneyhat Monster Hunter 4 and fund Bayonetta 2? I think the next Sonic games is exclusive to Nintendo too.
 
Weekly

PS4 May : 49.25k
XB1 May : 19.25k
XB1 June : 30.8k

Actually if you double 19.25k if the numbers stayed constant per week you will end up with 38.5K. If you times that by four it's 154K. If you add 19.25K from the first week of June you will end up with 173.25K.I think the xbox one sold under 170K anyway in June.
 
A couple thoughts...

First, all the nay-sayers who said MS shouldnt decouple the Xbone from Kinect need to eat a big plate of crow.

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Why?

Because, even if sales didnt jump up to exceed what we expect from PS4 they did jump up quite a bit when the numbers were down-trending badly before that. Removing Kinect was the right thing to do. The system obviously has other problems based on hardware and the perception of the Xbox brand being tarnished by the absolutely brain-dead PR response to public outcry. But things are trending better. And getting the price down is key.
 
They're pretty evenly matched for exclusives this year, with TLOU:R, DriveClub and LBP3 matching out Halo Collection, FH2 and Sunset Overdrive.

The difference being, as has been from the start, is that Xbox loses out on indie titles and f2p titles. Or, there just isn't as much releasing on the Xbone compared to the PS4 each month.

Which come to think of it could also be a factor why PS4 is selling significantly better.

I've no doubt it does make a difference, as does PS+. End of the day, as long as you're playing good games it doesn't matter whether they're big budget or small budget, nor whether they're made by x, y or z developer. Exclusives matter of course, a hell of a lot, but simply having lots of great games to play matters more. I'm sure 360 fans in the last year or two of the consoles life can attest to that.
 
A couple thoughts...

First, all the nay-sayers who said MS shouldnt decouple the Xbone from Kinect need to eat a big plate of crow.

On a side note, both of my Kinect 2.0 units are sitting in their original Day One boxes unused and un-missed. Selling on eBay is looking like a good strategy.

Nope, the Kinect is the only thing that is unique about the X1. Now without its niche feature, the X1 is an underpowered console.

The best deals were getting the X1+Kinect+free game for near 420.00...now it is 399 without the Kinect, what a horrible value =(
 
What we are discussing about shutting down Xbox or selling it off now based on June NPD that's expected to be decent in sales?

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People are thinking about the long term when they say that. And, if you look at the trajectory of sales, it's honestly been pretty bad for the system. Both systems were strongly front-loaded but it seems PS4 is managing to track w/ 360 and PS2, in other words it looks healthy.

XBO was like Usain Bolt out of the gate but has been more like Liu Xiang after February. It could end up as Oscar Pistorius if things don't pick up at a steady rate.
 
Man, its not looking good for Xbox One. I wonder how much MCC will help the console and if Halo 4 had any negative effect on the series moving forward, if at all. I doubt it (as my scenario is probably unique), but I was a die hard Halo fan who went strict Xbox + 360 for Halo and 4 pretty much killed the franchise for me.
 
Nope, the Kinect is the only thing that is unique about the X1. Now without its niche feature, the X1 is an underpowered console.

The best deals were getting the X1+Kinect+free game for near 420.00...now it is 399 without the Kinect, what a horrible value =(

Sorry, but the Kinect wasnt selling the system as was obvious by sales numbers tanking. Getting the price down is key. Most people dont give a rats ass about kinect, certainly not enough to pay more than the more powerful console being sold by Sony.
 
Because, even if sales didnt jump up to exceed what we expect from PS4 they did jump up quite a bit when the numbers were down-trending badly before that. Removing Kinect was the right thing to do. The system obviously has other problems based on hardware and the perception of the Xbox brand being tarnished by the absolutely brain-dead PR response to public outcry. But things are trending better. And getting the price down is key.
I bet that Microsoft is horribly disappointed with June NPD. Just wasn't a big enough increase for the doubters to eat crow.
 
The lack of J Allard and Crackdown 3 is alarming.

Yeah but like Crackdown is awesome as is J Allard. Based on how much I like Crackdown it only seems reasonable to expect that XB1 will outsell PS4 42 to 1 in the month of its release. Also probably a 2016 title :(
 
"Flying off the shelf!"

"Can't keep them in stock!"

Man, I feel like buying one just to make it fair. Side note, can I write off a purchase of the Xbox One on my taxes as "Charity"?
 
The problem is it gets compared directly to the ps4.

I think pachter made the estimate that ps4 sold 255k and it had the exact same no release month.

Price parity and your competitor is beating you by 100k in your strongest region is something to worry about.

Well I believe it is over already in terms of number one. MS can still be a strong number two though. Which is crazy to think about now but I think this is the ceiling for XB1 in the USA.
 
Sorry, but the Kinect wasnt selling the system as was obvious by sales numbers tanking. Getting the price down is key. Most people dont give a rats ass about kinect, certainly not enough to pay more than the more powerful console being soldb y Sony.

I actually think the $399 Xbox One ends up looking way worse than the $499 with kinect. at $399 with no kinect and being less powerful than the PS4, it just makes the PS4 the obvious choice where as with the kinect version at least there's one differentiator that you have to consider
 
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