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[Silky]

Because you are playing a 1 year old annualized game series?
FIFA 14-Useless, can get it for 5.00 in 2015
Madden NFL 25-Useless, can get it for 5.00 in 2015
Battlefield 4-Semi-useless, can get it for 5.00 in 2015
Peggle 2-Eh...I guess this is worth the money.

Battlefield 4 isn't an annualized series. Nor is Peggle 2. EA has more games than it's sports lineup.

 

[shacklesmcgee]

Why do people think this is a hood thing? Or innovative? Only one companies games on one companies system, and its for last year's games, so not even the best product available. It'd be like buying a subscription to Paramount for iOS devices only, some people may be looking for exactly that, but for the majority, its just weird.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

I don't get it. So 5$ for old games and demos of upcoming games?

think PS+

older games are added to the vault and you can play them as long as you are subbed.

New games have 5 day early access that will carry over to the full game if you purchase it. You also get 10% off digital purchases of said game.

Did I miss anything else?

 

[GarthVaderUK]

Sounds like a pretty good deal to me, I'm surprised!

 

[BibiMaghoo]

See, this is what I mean. If you bought Battlefield and Titanfall ($120) and their season passes (I dunno how much this is, so lets say $20 for each so another $40), and Peggle (I think it was $20?). That's $180, which means you saved $18

What is it that I am missing that makes this make sense?

The sub is $30 a year, how is that a saving of $18?

 

[DNAbro]

I don't understand why people are confused about this. This seems very simple.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Dat opinion

Edit: Wonder what the response would be if Sony had done this.

They already have. It's called PS+ and PS Now. This model is practically inspired by that.

 

[Xando]

My english isnt the best, if they talk about:
" and (3) access to a limited library of certain EA Content (“Vault Title(s)”) for unlimited online play (“Vault Access”) for the duration of their availability in the Vault."
does that mean multiplayer only?

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Sounds like the WWE network of gaming...no way they can support this the way it appears.

 

[Vlade]

Not a terrible deal, and surely is the wave of the future, but the pot is no where near sweet enough for me yet. Give me a year free with inquisition or something if we want to see if I might get hooked.

 

[Impeccable]

Well, this is something for someone.

Interesting.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

They already have. It's called PS+ and PS Now. This model is practically inspired by that.

Yeah. Just like Origin was inspired by Steam.

 

[Mass Effect]

To be fair, a 5-day full game trial does not exclude making a short demo available for free.

Of course. The possibility to have both is always there...

...but this is EA we're talking about.

 

[gamechanger87]

My english isnt the best, if they talk about:
" and (3) access to a limited library of certain EA Content (“Vault Title(s)”) for unlimited online play (“Vault Access”) for the duration of their availability in the Vault."
does that mean multiplayer only?

Likely requires some undetermined timed check in to ensure that you are still a subscriber.

 

[manual4]

My english isnt the best, if they talk about:
" and (3) access to a limited library of certain EA Content (“Vault Title(s)”) for unlimited online play (“Vault Access”) for the duration of their availability in the Vault."
does that mean multiplayer only?

it probably means you have to be connected online

 

[mike4001_]

What is it that I am missing that makes this make sense?

The sub is $30 a year, how is that a saving of $18?

It only makes sense if you also play 1-2 of the free games.

It´s the same with PS+ - if you only use their -10% disount it would also not be worth it

 

[Windom Earle]

It's EA, don't care.

 

[LTWheels]

EA produce a lot of titles.

It really depends on how often games are added to the subscription.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Battlefield 4 isn't an annualized series. Nor is Peggle 2. EA has more games than it's sports lineup.

True, but how much of them are franchises that really warrant a sub for? The value from this is purely coming from a sports fan mindset. Those people who are into sports get the most out of this than people who are in and out the EA ecosystem regarding other franchise games. Battlefield is debatable as you still need to purchase premium to really take advantage of it.

 

[DoubleTake]

When you break it down, it's not a good deal if you're trying to game the system financially.

-If you buy the $30 membership, you need to buy at least 6 EA retail games within that year to come out ahead, or buy over $300 in EA digital content and DLC.

-Buying a $5 subscription for one month only requires you to buy one retail game or $50 worth of EA DLC, so that theoretically you could wait till December, buy a one month membership, and buy all the EA games and content you wanted to save money. But it's highly unlikely anyone would do that.

-So in regards of discounts, no, it isn't worth it for this membership unless you feel that the extra features make up for it. You get to dip into an "EA Vault" that has old titles that are either bringing in less revenue or are reaching the end of their shelf life (essentially all of last year's sports titles), games that depend less on making that initial $60 sale and more on keeping the player count high and offering premium DLC and subscriptions (Battlefield), and the occasional "goodwill" game that can be considered a small loss to EA (Peggle 2, though I think that got some DLC if I'm not mistaken?). You also get limited early play time for games up to a few days beforehand, which is neat.

-EA doesn't mind taking the hit for all this because their revenue for digital is higher than retail anyways, and allows for less used games on the market. Total win for EA.


EA doesn't really need to keep updating their "EA Vault" because they aren't going to be dependent on making sure they get that $5/month from players. The $5 is just a way to make the $30 even more appealing to new subscribers. As soon as you pay that money, you're essentially locked in to a new digital-only store with benefits that won't cost EA much money at all.

A really, really smart play by EA that could be worth it for players who love both sports and EA developed franchises. But there's not gonna be much here for someone like myself who has zero interest in sports.




See, this is what I mean. If you bought Battlefield and Titanfall ($120) and their season passes (I dunno how much this is, so lets say $20 for each so another $40), and Peggle (I think it was $20?). That's $180, which means you saved $18, and did not cover the cost of your subscription. You'd have to make the call whether or not free access to last year's FIFA and Madden is worth the extra $12, or any future potential EA Vault games.

Like I said, easy to make that call if you love sports and videa'games, maybe not so much if you don't.

Perfect summary of what this means. Great if you buy digital and a bunch of EA games/content every year. Negligible if not.

 

[Rivitur]

So what does this mean for PS+ getting ea games? I assume nothing will be changed? (As in PS+ still won't get ea games?)

 

[Quazar]

Games that are relatively useless if you consider yourself a fan of sports... and don't get me started on that broken mess which is BF4. There is no serious value if you don't want to play a year old sports game, or a game they still can't fix, close to a year after release. And that 5 day trial seems somewhat limited, since you know, they said that it is limited. Certainly lots of room to wiggle... it could mean as much as a 2 hour trial, 5 days before release.

Like I said their is multiple ways to extrapolate value. It just depends on the individual. In your case, you see none. But in others, their is.

 

[funkystudent]

Sounds like the WWE network of gaming...no way they can support this the way it appears.

Its more like EA saying fuck you to PS+ and Games with Gold and doing its own thing with its back catalogue of games no one gives a crap about after the launch window so they get more money in return then they would adding games to those services.

Its a interesting idea but I fear we will start seeing similar subscription services for other publishers on top of PS+ and GWG and subscription services will become the blight of consoles like publisher specific DRM and launchers are on PC.


Not sure I would be interested yet. Maybe in a few years when the next gen back catalogue grows.

 

[lostcauz]

£4 a month or £20 a year, wow. Excellent value.

 

[Ape]

I'll have to see how they support it with new games/releases... but this has so much potential to be an amazing deal I don't know why people are trying to downplay it. Just the announced games for people who haven't played them would be worth it imo.

It just hit me, I have a massive amount of money from the Gamestop give away! I'm so doing this! I love that I went Xbox early this gen.

 

[Apath]

Games that are relatively useless if you consider yourself a fan of sports... and don't get me started on that broken mess which is BF4. There is no serious value if you don't want to play a year old sports game, or a game they still can't fix, close to a year after release. And that 5 day trial seems somewhat limited, since you know, they said that it is limited. Certainly lots of room to wiggle... it could mean as much as a 2 hour trial, 5 days before release.

By this argument, there is no value in any subscription service if none of the offerings interest you. Isn't that kind of obvious? However you can see it has value as long as someone is interested in at least two of their games. Discounting the game service because sports games don't interest everyone is silly.

Good point on the five day trial period though. They probably will have some sort of restriction to prevent people from binging on a game before it's released and then not buying it.

 

[WetDonkey6969]

Some people just automatically default to No.

This deal is amazing.

 

[pompidu]

So its basically a rental service. No thanks.

 

[Rourkey]

I'm in, jeez that's great value!

 

[3rdamention]

A future I'm not looking forward to



Yep. Exactly what I was thinking as well. "You want to try our new game before you buy it? Pay us $5!"

If you look back, this whole EA Subscription service was basically leaked over 4 years ago! Pachter Talked about it!

EA will test waters with paid-for demos



Then, just a month or so ago, you have the FIFA 14 and UFC Demos on Xbox Live listed as costing $4.99 each, coincidentally, the same price as one month of this new service. Which EA later said was a technical error.

The writing has been on the wall. They have dangled this in gamers face for a while now. Looks like these plans have come to fruition.

 

[JawzPause]

Really good value but I'm a little bit suspicious. I mean, why so cheap?

 

[I Want Your Cat]

Wow, thats an amazing deal. I can even try out new releases a week before launch?? Sounds great. Sign me up!

 

[coldone]

Battlefield 4 isn't an annualized series. Nor is Peggle 2. EA has more games than it's sports lineup.

But that is is what they are giving now. Unless other wise they create a umbrella service for both 360/Xbone, there isn't too many EA games on xbone yet.

 

[Opt1kon_]

Damn I'm actually jealous of this, wish they had it for the PS4, or put it on PC

 

[Maintenance]

If you look back, this whole EA Subscription service was basically leaked over 4 years ago! Pachter Talked about it!

EA will test waters with paid-for demos



Then, just a month or so ago, you have the FIFA 14 and UFC Demos on Xbox Live listed as costing $4.99 each, coincidentally, the same price as one month of this new service. Which EA later said was a technical error.

The writing has been on the wall. They have dangled this in gamers face for a while now. Looks like these plans have come to fruition.

Holy shit! That "error" that everyone said that was just a mistake. Man, nice find.

 

[Barzul]

Why do people think this is a hood thing? Or innovative? Only one companies games on one companies system, and its for last year's games, so not even the best product available. It'd be like buying a subscription to Paramount for iOS devices only, some people may be looking for exactly that, but for the majority, its just weird.

So because you don't own an Xbox it's not good? Because that's exactly what i got from your statement. You really can't see how this is innovative in the console space?

 

[3rdamention]

think PS+

older games are added to the vault and you can play them as long as you are subbed.

New games have 5 day early access that will carry over to the full game if you purchase it. You also get 10% off digital purchases of said game.

Did I miss anything else?

It is up to 5 days, so it could be less than 5 days.

 

[Infinite Xero]

I don't get this at all. PS+ already does the basics of what this service entails. PS Now doesn't have final prices so that's not even up to debate. "Core-gamer focused", Wat?

What is not Core Gamer focused about PS Now? You are able to play catalog of games from various generations on plenty of different systems? What is not core gamer focused there? They are spreading exposure with the service..

PS+ gives a bunch of random games which you might want or might not. This subscription seems to give access to less than a year old EA games for just $30/mo. And we have already have an idea of what Sony wants to charge for PS Now games so didn't give me that "PS Now doesn't have final prices" bs.

What is the point of having PS Now if you already own a PS3 or any of the gaming devices that PS Now will stream games from? Not much. I'm pretty sure most core-gamers already own the gaming platform they want to play games on so I don't see PS Now appealing to that audience. Sony's target is obviously non-gamers, hence why they are expanding the services beyond gaming machines.

 

[FranXico]

If you look back, this whole EA Subscription service was basically leaked over 4 years ago! Pachter Talked about it!

EA will test waters with paid-for demos


Then, just a month or so ago, you have the FIFA 14 and UFC Demos on Xbox Live listed as costing $4.99 each, coincidentally, the same price as one month of this new service. Which EA later said was a technical error.

The writing has been on the wall. They have dangled this in gamers face for a while now. Looks like these plans have come to fruition.

Yes.

Not that this service, as it is being announced, isn't appealing to people who play a lot of EA games.

But this is definitely the culmination of EA choosing a side in the console war.

 

[ShutterMunster]

I don't think this new service is much of a big deal, the big deal is the fact that it is console exclusive. Big win or Microsoft from a PR standpoint alone.

 

[Woo-Fu]

Xbox One exclusive? Holy shit! MS aren't playing around.

Xbox fans already conditioned to paying a monthly gaming tax while PS fans are just getting used to it.

It looks like junk to me at this point, the proof will be how many new games appear on the service and how often.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Damn I'm actually jealous of this, wish they had it for the PS4, or put it on PC

it makes you wonder how much they got to keep it on Xbox. The ammount of subs would probably be huge on all platforms.

but you know..

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Peter Moore et al doing what they can to try to take away attention from Last of Us day.

 

[Lucreto]

So will this add some sort of backwards compatibility to the older games? I count 7 games since launch is not really that many.

 

[biteren]

If you look back, this whole EA Subscription service was basically leaked over 4 years ago! Pachter Talked about it!

EA will test waters with paid-for demos



Then, just a month or so ago, you have the FIFA 14 and UFC Demos on Xbox Live listed as costing $4.99 each, coincidentally, the same price as one month of this new service. Which EA later said was a technical error.

The writing has been on the wall. They have dangled this in gamers face for a while now. Looks like these plans have come to fruition.

this is starting to sound scary....

but the service itself is good sounding, i just have no faith in EA after BF4.

 

[LiK]

promising but i'll wait until they have way more games to choose from.

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

So its basically a rental service. No thanks.

So I take it you don't download Games with Gold or PS+ games?

And you don't use Gamefly or Netflix either?

Your loss

 

[WastedDeer]

Why are people so caught up on the sports games side of it? From what I can see this will develop into Netflix for EA games.

The beta has those 4 games with more to come in the future. I don't think games will be taken off it either as some seem to suggest. Look at it from their point of view. They are trying to stop the 2nd hand market or at least take a slice of it. The way to do that is for them to throw their entire back catalogue onto this subscription service, take the $5 plus extra dlc sales and laugh all the way to the bank.

Imagine if this was possible on 360 for an idea of what it could look like in the future on X1. Would you pay it to have access to this list of titles: Dragon Age Origins + 2, all the Fifas, Maddens, NBAs (lol), NHLs, Army of Two, Dead Space plus sequels, Battlefield, Rock Bands, KOA etc.

That's. How I see it in the future. A way for them to make money on games that don't sell anymore. It makes no sense for them to remove games once they are on it.

 

[aspiegamer]

It is up to 5 days, so it could be less than 5 days.

More specifically, it's "for a limited time" during those 5 days. A save carry-over is at least a polite feature.

So will this add some sort of backwards compatibility to the older games? I count 7 games since launch is not really that many.

XB1 games only, and only whichever one they feel like adding and we have no idea how they'll decide that. For example, the fine print specifically says Titanfall is not part of the program.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

It only makes sense if you also play 1-2 of the free games.

It´s the same with PS+ - if you only use their -10% disount it would also not be worth it

Yeah, but two of the games in the example are on the service, so that is a saving of BF and Peggle + the percentage on new stuff - $30, which is surely more that $18