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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty

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Stage preview images most of the time are a completely different picture of the stage than the icon used.

That was kind of my point, you could just as easily reverse it with the icon showing the whole building and the preview image showing a close-up of the actual playing field. I wasn't trying to make it a knock against anything.
 
I was looking for leak pictures, but I found this picture in one of the thread.

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I can't help it but I had a flashback when I saw this picture. It reminded me a lot of short scene in first trailer. I made a gif, and slow it down by few milliseconds.

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Another thing that kind of blows in the SSS, is the fact that Melee/Brawl stages are crammed together with original stages, which was never the case in any previous Smash.
If real it seems it was probably done to disguise how terrible and full of holes the stage representation is.
 
I was looking for leak pictures, but I found this picture in one of the thread.

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I can't help it but I had a flashback when I saw this picture. It reminded me a lot of short scene in first trailer. I made a gif, and slow it down by few milliseconds.

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Yes, exactly what I thought
This looks a lot like that part of the trailer..
 
Yes, exactly what I thought
This looks a lot like that part of the trailer..

Except duller in colour, and only half of the characters in shot, compared to the near full render in the trailer.

I seriously hope they didn't gimp out on stages, because it would be a REAL shame not to get original stages on both systems.

It's still weird both games got Wily Castle, when they could of clearly made an easy Mega Man alternative stage.

But let's wait and see what the new pics show us.
 
If the leak is real, I don't get how the stage list ended up so terrible in spite of their decision to not make an adventure mode... you'd think that'd free a lot of resources for level design at least.

We haven't even see Break the Targets or Race to the Finish either...
 
I was looking for leak pictures, but I found this picture in one of the thread.

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I can't help it but I had a flashback when I saw this picture. It reminded me a lot of short scene in first trailer. I made a gif, and slow it down by few milliseconds.

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But the characters'... bars (?) look way too thick compared to the trailers, and I doubt it'd be moving by that fast on the title screen. I hate to be so adamantly #TeamFake, but they're too dissimilar to be evidence.

Nice theory about how the shitty SSS is to hide the number of twice-recycled Melee levels, though; if these leaks actually were real, it'd make sense. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be pissed.

checkmate #teamfake
Wait, how was there any sort of checkmate? I'm sorry, but I'm lost here, Diprosalic. :/
 
Speaking of that part of the trailer, remember when Sakurai had a montage of all the trailers up to that point for the beginning of the smash direct. I have a feeling he'll do something similar for smash 4's opening
 
That shot in the trailer could've just been inspiration for the leaker. Except the gradient is different and the separation lines are white, etc.
 
As has been mentioned before, it'd also be kinda strange if they ported over Boxing Ring and Wily's Castle, but not Wii Fit Studio.

Anyways I don't know much about Wario games that aren't from the WarioWare line, but I'm surprised that even Greenhorn Forest never showed up in Brawl. I've always sorta considered that to be Wario's theme since it debuted.
even before FROM THE NEAREST NIGHTCLUB: MISTER MONEY
 
I was looking for leak pictures, but I found this picture in one of the thread.

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I can't help it but I had a flashback when I saw this picture. It reminded me a lot of short scene in first trailer. I made a gif, and slow it down by few milliseconds.

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Might be the new replacement of what brawl did

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The more characters you unlock, the more appear.

But the characters'... bars (?) look way too thick compared to the trailers, and I doubt it'd be moving by that fast on the title screen. I hate to be so adamantly #TeamFake, but they're too dissimilar to be evidence.

It's similar in style, not in formatting. Maybe the trailer is what the Wii U version does, and 3DS is slightly different.
 
But the characters'... bars (?) look way too thick compared to the trailers, and I doubt it'd be moving by that fast on the title screen. I hate to be so adamantly #TeamFake, but they're too dissimilar to be evidence.

I'm not saying that they are same. I'm pointing it out that it just reminded me of trailer's scenes.
 
I just noticed something that might be another point in Team Real's favor.

Take a look at Samus on the leaked select screen. Note the proportions of her helmet and visor.

Pretty much every roster prediction/hoax image I've seen uses Samus' render from the official site. It makes sense that you'd use that image since it's already cut out. However, for whatever reason, the render is a little too wide. On the other hand, the mobile version of the site contains an accurate render that's a bit narrower. If the select screen was fake, the person creating it would have had to make this obscure connection. It's not impossible -- after all, I noticed it -- but it's yet another small detail that the leak got right. It's not exactly common knowledge that there are two Samus renders.
 
As has been mentioned before, it'd also be kinda strange if they ported over Boxing Ring and Wily's Castle, but not Wii Fit Studio.

Anyways I don't know much about Wario games that aren't from the WarioWare line, but I'm surprised that even Greenhorn Forest never showed up in Brawl. I've always sorta considered that to be Wario's theme since it debuted.
even before FROM THE NEAREST NIGHTCLUB: MISTER MONEY

Yeah, there may be a Wii Fit 3DS stage then.

If the leak is real, it's hard to believe there'll not be a stage matching a newcomer, that'd be downright weird.

WFT and no WFT stage? wut.
 
I just noticed something that might be another point in Team Real's favor.

Take a look at Samus on the leaked select screen. Note the proportions of her helmet and visor.

Pretty much every roster prediction/hoax image I've seen uses Samus' render from the official site. It makes sense that you'd use that image since it's already cut out. However, for whatever reason, the render is a little too wide. On the other hand, the mobile version of the site contains an accurate render that's a bit narrower. If the select screen was fake, the person creating it would have had to make this obscure connection. It's not impossible -- after all, I noticed it -- but it's yet another small detail that the leak got right. It's not exactly common knowledge that there are two Samus renders.

At that scale, how can you even tell which render they used?
 
I just noticed something that might be another point in Team Real's favor.

Take a look at Samus on the leaked select screen. Note the proportions of her helmet and visor.

Pretty much every roster prediction/hoax image I've seen uses Samus' render from the official site. It makes sense that you'd use that image since it's already cut out. However, for whatever reason, the render is a little too wide. On the other hand, the mobile version of the site contains an accurate render that's a bit narrower. If the select screen was fake, the person creating it would have had to make this obscure connection. It's not impossible -- after all, I noticed it -- but it's yet another small detail that the leak got right. It's not exactly common knowledge that there are two Samus renders.

There are too many little details in the leak for it to be fake to me :/ And none of the little details can be chalked up to 'mistakes' like many other leaks.
 
Yeah, there may be a Wii Fit 3DS stage then.

If the leak is real, it's hard to believe there'll not be a stage matching a newcomer, that'd be downright weird.

WFT and no WFT stage? wut.
It's not unprecedented -- Melee didn't have a Fire Emblem stage, and Brawl didn't have a R.O.B. stage -- but this is different. A Wii Fit stage already exists in the Wii U version, and all the team has to do is port it over. Where are we going to fight Wii Fit Trainer in All-Star mode? The Tomodachi Life stage? That's dumb.
 
Yeah, there may be a Wii Fit 3DS stage then.

If the leak is real, it's hard to believe there'll not be a stage matching a newcomer, that'd be downright weird.

WFT and no WFT stage? wut.
It's not really that weird, it's just kinda lame.

In N64, there was no F-Zero or Earthbound stage.
In Melee, there was no Fire Emblem stage.
In Brawl, there was no stage for ROB to call home.
In Smash 4, there doesn't appear to be a Duck Hunt stage on the 3DS version either, so no WiiFit stage isn't too out there.
 
We are aware that leak shown us that Duck Hunt Dog's Render with Duck. Yeah, they look so adorable. Are they? I admitted the model look pretty fantastic, and all that.

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One thing bothered me about that duck is that we got a duck with blue, purple and white feathers. Classic Duck would have Black, Green and White. since they are more recognized than other colors. I know that there is a possibly that Classic Duck could be alt color, but it's just strange that they would go with other colors for original color.



Also, do anyone feel something off with Duck Hunt Model, like it's more of clay when you look at dog, along with rest of nintendo characters?
 
Anyways I don't know much about Wario games that aren't from the WarioWare line, but I'm surprised that even Greenhorn Forest never showed up in Brawl. I've always sorta considered that to be Wario's theme since it debuted.
even before FROM THE NEAREST NIGHTCLUB: MISTER MONEY
Or the main theme from the first Wario Land which even turns up in the second.

There's also the theme from Wario Land 3 which was often used as Wario's theme in some other games
 
I just noticed something that might be another point in Team Real's favor.

Take a look at Samus on the leaked select screen. Note the proportions of her helmet and visor.

Pretty much every roster prediction/hoax image I've seen uses Samus' render from the official site. It makes sense that you'd use that image since it's already cut out. However, for whatever reason, the render is a little too wide. On the other hand, the mobile version of the site contains an accurate render that's a bit narrower. If the select screen was fake, the person creating it would have had to make this obscure connection. It's not impossible -- after all, I noticed it -- but it's yet another small detail that the leak got right. It's not exactly common knowledge that there are two Samus renders.

I think this might be a bit of a stretch honestly, since it's really hard to tell with the camera angles at play.

As an aside, Meta Knight bothers me on the CSS. It feels like he lacks a point of focus when compared to every other character on the select screen.

We are aware that leak shown us that Duck Hunt Dog's Render with Duck. Yeah, they look so adorable. Are they? I admitted the model look pretty fantastic, and all that.

One thing bothered me about that duck is that we got a duck with blue, purple and white feathers. Classic Duck would have Black, Green and White. since they are more recognized than other colors. I know that there is a possibly that Classic Duck could be alt color, but it's just strange that they would go with other colors for original color.

Also, do anyone feel something off with Duck Hunt Model, like it's more of clay when you look at dog, along with rest of nintendo characters?

These are all points that bother me with the Duck Hunt render. The character looks a bit too simple and for a track record of having gotten most details on characters down to a pat (or in cases like Pit, upgrading them to a modern standard), Duck Hunt looks really off. The dog was always a bit more of an imposing hunting dog, and those ears look off. He looks a lot more like Pluto. They didn't even get the freckles down.

It's nothing that discredits the leak, mind. But it looks really cheap.
 
Heath, the pink duck appears very early on in Duck Hunt (the first wave?) so it's not unusual. Plus, I think the color helps differentiate as a video game character and not just some duck. I will agree they look clay-like, but I can't imagine that's not on purpose. Ness sort of has that going on too.
 
There is no 3DS version of Wii Fit. Wii Fit is not for the 3DS. There is no 3DSFit. Hence no Wii Fit stage on the 3DS.

There is no Wii U version of Pokemon XY. Pokemon XY is not for the Wii U. There is no Pokemon on Wii U. Hence Wii U still getting a Pokemon stage.

So why can 3DS not get Wii Fit stages?

Also, 3DS got Boxing Ring, and was there a PO on 3DS?
 
One thing bothered me about that duck is that we got a duck with blue, purple and white feathers. Classic Duck would have Black, Green and White. since they are more recognized than other colors. I know that there is a possibly that Classic Duck could be alt color, but it's just strange that they would go with other colors for original color.
Appearances in other games:
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Melee

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Wario Ware

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Wario Ware Twisted

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Wii Play Shooting Range

You do make a point that green headed ones seem to be the default.
 
Then they shouldn't have Boxing Arena or Pikmin stage.

Pikmin
Punch-Out!!
Xenoblade

Even some of the past stages are based on console games.

Well sure each version gets some particularly good bonus stages. But it's not like it's required for a console IP to provide a stage for the handheld, nor vice versa.

Edit: Alright, enough counter-examples. One lack of a stage does not necessitate the removal of other stages. Just because Sakurai wants to include stages A, B, C and D, does not obligate him to include stage E.
 
I think the Duck Hunt Dog and Duck looks fine. I just don't like the use of that name for its character if it's real. Duck Hunt? Really now?
 
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