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[Painguy]

That's from me myself and irene when he gets a chin implant. That's not what he actually looks like

That explains it! On topic...so how mad do you guys think Sakurai is?

 

[IntelliHeath]

I feel bad not just for Sakurai but the whole team because they still have newcomer videos coming and all of that work will be wasted.

Naw, they wouldn't. I will use that video for countdown, and still watching it over 100 times like I did with other trailers

 

[BGBW]

Cornwall confirmed for Smash stage!

 

[PadWarrior]

Naw, they wouldn't. I will use that video for countdown, and still watching it over 100 times like I did with other trailers

I hope the video shows the rest of the Koopa clan.

 

[FF Seraphim]

Pic of the Day is up early

Oh god if only this was a real post.

 

[Hours Left]

I feel bad not just for Sakurai but the whole team because they still have newcomer videos coming and all of that work will be wasted.

I think people will still definitely want to see the official media.

 

[OricWindstar]

All my friends and family at the moment are grieving with me unless something changes.

Sorry, my friend. I'm hoping Snake makes it in the DLC, however unlikely that is. Who do you think you'll be using if he's totally cut?

 

[K-A-Deman]

Leakers are my favorite thing about gaming.
I wish they could get away with all the leaks. If you can't hype me even after I have been spoiled you're failing at your job anyway.

Um, what about the sensation of experiencing things yourself, like character trailers?

 

[Letterbomb]

Whooooooa, I totally did not pick up on that, but you could be right! I dunno how I would feel about that, but as long as he's a fun character, I guess I'm okay with that. Still, if that's the case, why add new clones but cut Lucas!?

He's not a Diddy clone, lmao.
The reason other characters share moves is because their animations are near identical. Bowser Jr.'s are completely different from Diddy, so they'll have different properties and effects as well. We can already tell that his forward smash is the bullet bill thing. Up smash is a vertical launch, sure, but that alone doesn't make him a clone. Also the koopaling mechanical thingies has no merit. That was speculation.

 

[Nocturnowl]

Shulk's animations look pretty faithful to Xenoblade. I think they're intentionally "bad" (which I disagree with) to mimic that game's style.

My favourite thing about Shulk so far is seeing the janky Xenoblade jump animation in all its glory.

At last, the third DK rep we've all been waiting for, hopefully the barrel factory is the Wii U stage for the series, stage song selection of DKC musical numbers.

Well... it is speculated that Sakurai enjoyed the DKC cartoon and DK's white colour was based on Eddie the Yeti.

What we don't know yet is that aside from the beat markers DK's final smash now includes him singing to his konga beat in his lovely boyband voice.

 

[Not]

Lots of people in disbelief, bitching about it getting leaked (since whoever shared the information was violating an NDA) and lol'ing at DHD and Bowser Jr.

Thanks for these. It's super interesting to get Japanese reactions to the stuff we're discussing.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I love this one

 

[Samurai_Heart]

Fan Artists are fast:

 

[Ricky 7]

Can anyone make out if Shulk has his British voice in the leaked video? In the video it sounds like he's been given a new voice.

 

[K-A-Deman]

That explains it! On topic...so how mad do you guys think Sakurai is?

Probably less than we exaggerate. what I do feel sorry for is how he's put up with all this work and all this effort, even delaying getting necessary surgery so he can keep using his hands in the future, to have it all torn down by some egotistical punk(s).

 

[BGBW]

Yeah, way to not rub it in.

I was making fun of myself too.

 

[Hyperactivity]

HOLY SHIT
Whaaat

There were videos!!!!

 

[Durden77]

Well the last fighting game I followed this closely was UMvC3, and seeing how amazingly horribly Capcom handled leaking information for that game, Sakurai and team has done a pretty great job preventing leaks.

But it's 2014. The internet is too stronk. You tried Sakurai. Hope he's not too bummed.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Sorry, my friend. I'm hoping Snake makes it in the DLC, however unlikely that is. Who do you think you'll be using if he's totally cut?

Ike is my second character so at least he made it in.
After that it's going to be messing with these newcomers to see who I like.
Robin, Lucina, WFT, Rosalina, Shulk, Little Mac, and Palutena.
Which thankfully is way more characters I have to look forward to then I did in Brawl. So i'm bound to have fun with the new cast even if i'll feel a piece is always missing.

Um, what about the sensation of experiencing things yourself, like character trailers?

I can still experience it though. Just because I know Shulk is in the game I don't know how his trailer is going to play out. Neither do I know how he'll feel when I finally play him.

 

[Gartooth]

I was never really fond of the idea behind Bowser Jr. because the paintbrush inspired moveset never really got me excited. However, his design in this game has won me over probably due to it reminding me a lot of how much I enjoyed Tron Bonne in the MvC games.

Well the last fighting game I followed this closely was UMvC3, and seeing how amazingly horribly Capcom handled leaking information for that game, Sakurai and team has done a pretty great job preventing leaks.

But it's 2014. The internet is too stronk. You tried Sakurai. Hope he's not too bummed.

My thoughts as well. Information can spread pretty damn fast today so trying to keep all this stuff a secret up until release was a bit like playing with fire.

 

[Regulus Tera]

In other news where the fuck is GameXplain's video on the leak? It's been like almost twelve hours already jfc. Are they afraid of getting Yokoi'd?

 

[Kjellson]

There is a pic of a trophy with a koopaling in the clown car.

We don't have any proof other than the quote from Smashboards and a pic of Larry Koopa in the clown car.
Considering they basically got it right (Bowser Jr's moveset) I think Koopaling alts are a given.

Though it's not 100% confirmed, the original text leaks mentioned that. In addition, there's trophys of the individual Koopalings in the clown kart, heavily implying that his alts are the Koopalings.

Probably true; the text leak matches up with the video and image proof we've seen. But we don't have images specifically of it. However, there is one picture of a trophy, with one of the Koopa Kids in Bowser Jr's Clown Car. A trophy isn't official confirmation at all, but it's something I guess.

There's that one trophy of a Koopa Kid in the Clown Car.

Most I saw was one of the photos that included Iggy or Lemmy or Larry (I can't tell them apart) in the clowncar, but it wasn't a gameplay photo, it was in an accessories menu or something. It's in the imgur album... I don't have the link...

Larry Koopa in the exact same clown car. A trophy is all we have ATM

EDIT: Hooooooooo boy lawl am I LATE

Hmmmmmm.

While I dislike the idea of having different characters as alts, I am willing to accept this. I mained Larry in Mario Kart 8, and I will main him in Smash Bros.

 

[ffdgh]

HOLY SHIT
Whaaat

There were videos!!!!

plenty of backups were made

 

[emb]

HOLY SHIT
Whaaat

There were videos!!!!

You can still check them out here: https://vid.me/5so

 

[Not]

I mean maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe if these people were leaking evidence about how Nintendo uses child labour for their manufacturing operations* I would see the point. Then I would be like "fuck the man, the world needs to know this!"

Characters in a videogame, though?

Generational priorities, amirite? I'm way more invested in Smash Bros than child labor. Pretty sad bit of introspection.

 

[georly]

HOLY SHIT
Whaaat

There were videos!!!!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=127036148&postcount=16280

Indeed!

 

[emb]

Hmmmmmm.

While I dislike the idea of having different characters as alts, I am willing to accept this. I mained Larry in Mario Kart 8, and I will main him in Smash Bros.

I'm with you on that. The Koopa Kids are too cool not to have around, but excessive to implement as separate characters. This is a solid compromise.

 

[lupinko]

Leakers are my favorite thing about gaming.
I wish they could get away with all the leaks. If you can't hype me even after I have been spoiled you're failing at your job anyway.

That's been done.

 

[K-A-Deman]

Poor Leaker.

I know some fans want their head on a spike, but you kept refreshing and spoiled it for yourself anyway. They only wanted what a lot of fans wanted: the end of months of speculative roster hype and denial, and the beginning of roster acceptance and gameplay hype.

I'd believe that better if the guy wasn't lording over it and acting like a prick for the majority of the time. and are you really saying that gameplay hype hasn't been happening since the first reveal? It took a backseat to the roster true, but hey; at least Nintendo actually shows gameplay at reveals still.

 

[Letterbomb]

Fan Artists are fast:

Welp I tried to make an avatar outta it.
Saved in transparent background, PNG. Not sure why I get white background.
I don't understand this sort of shit. Stupid GIMP.

 

[Revven]

So.... on a scale of 1-10 how disappointed are you with the stages for the 3DS version? (Assuming the stage select screen image we got is *all* the stages)?

Me? Personally? Definitely like a 4. Too many returning stages and the returning Melee stages that are there are the same ones from Brawl (which are stages I flat out have never liked! Well, except Corneria... Freaking Brinstar and Jungle Japes, though!)

 

[Voliko]

I can't believe someone would risk there job over this.

Shulk trailer is going to be epic tho

 

[ffdgh]

You can still check them out here: https://vid.me/5so

"332 watching"

Hiya lurkers lol.

 

[OricWindstar]

Ike is my second character so at least he made it in.
After that it's going to be messing with these newcomers to see who I like.
Robin, Lucina, WFT, Rosalina, Shulk, Little Mac, and Palutena.
Which thankfully is way more characters I have to look forward to then I did in Brawl. So i'm bound to have fun with the new cast even if i'll feel a piece is always missing.

Glad there at least some others for you!

 

[Regulus Tera]

Hmmmmmm.

While I dislike the idea of having different characters as alts, I am willing to accept this. I mained Larry in Mario Kart 8, and I will main him in Smash Bros.

We technically had Claus as a Lucas alt in Brawl.

 

[BGBW]

Welp I tried to make an avatar outta it.
Saved in transparent background, PNG. Not sure why I get white background.
I don't understand this sort of shit. Stupid GIMP.

Did you resize it to fit within the dimensions of 100 wide 120 tall? If it is bigger GAF resizes it and gives it a white background.

 

[Letterbomb]

So.... on a scale of 1-10 how disappointed are you with the stages for the 3DS version? (Assuming the stage select screen image we got is *all* the stages)?

Me? Personally? Definitely like a 4. Too many returning stages and the returning Melee stages that are there are the same ones from Brawl (which are stages I flat out have never liked! Well, except Corneria... Freaking Brinstar and Jungle Japes, though!)

Never expected the 3DS version to have a sizable stage roster. So I'm not disappointed.
I'd be entirely disappointed if that was what the Wii U version also resembled though.

EDIT:

Did you resize it to fit within the dimensions of 100 wide 120 tall? If it is bigger GAF resizes it and gives it a white background.

Thanks! I'll fix right away.

 

[-Horizon-]

So that's where he was ducking to.

 

[Gartooth]

So.... on a scale of 1-10 how disappointed are you with the stages for the 3DS version? (Assuming the stage select screen image we got is *all* the stages)?

Me? Personally? Definitely like a 4. Too many returning stages and the returning Melee stages that are there are the same ones from Brawl (which are stages I flat out have never liked! Well, except Corneria... Freaking Brinstar and Jungle Japes, though!)

6 because I do like some of the stages that were shown pre-release. Having only three more new stages left blows though. Too many retro stages, and I'm pretty bummed there are no Donkey Kong and Luigi's Mansion stages.

 

[Bilollipop]

I'm still pretty stoked to see what else is in the newcomer trailers.
The way they introduced Capt. Falcon and the Fire Emblem newcomers makes me wonder how they're going to re announce the other veterans.

 

[Ryce]

We technically had Claus as a Lucas alt in Brawl.

That was just a color swap. His name was still Lucas and his hair was wrong.

 

[Karsticles]

Sakurai still has 6 characters left to show, even if they are DLC.

 

[IntelliHeath]

One good argument against leaks is a normal reveal schedule keeps people from going "GUH I HATE THIS CHARACTER KNOWING NOTHING ABOUT HOW THEY PLAY SAKURAI HOW COULD YOU"

I mean

Not everyone

But more people

Yeah, it really bugged me so much that people complained before seeing their move sets. They acting like Sakurai should go for popularity and fan demands. Sakurai kept emphasized that he is going after unique characters too.

Meanwhile in Brazil

:lol

What I don't understand.. If Ice Climbers are cut because of "limitations" then why do we have Duck Hunt (dog & duck), Rosalina & Luma, Pikmin & Olimar? I know they aren't the same, but still, they come pretty close. Especially if Chorus Men are in the game, I mean they have Smash Run enemies just as the Ice Climbers have the polar bear.

I can't see them gone from the game at all.

Double AI? I hope that it's Wii U exclusive

 

[ffdgh]

Welp I tried to make an avatar outta it.
Saved in transparent background, PNG. Not sure why I get white background.
I don't understand this sort of shit. Stupid GIMP.

Paint.net is more simple to understand.

 

[emb]

Poor Leaker.

I know some fans want their head on a spike, but you kept refreshing and spoiled it for yourself anyway. They only wanted what a lot of fans wanted: the end of months of speculative roster hype and denial, and the beginning of roster acceptance and gameplay hype.

Nah, I don't wish ill of him. I love seeing the leaks. That unexpected "it's happening" feeling this morning was great.

But from the company's point of view... and really, just a generally professional perspective, it's hard to have a ton of sympathy for someone who can't be trusted. They said they would keep a secret and they didn't.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

I tried.

 

[StreetsAhead]

I'm with you on that. The Koopa Kids are too cool not to have around, but excessive to implement as separate characters. This is a solid compromise.

It's just a shame that Baby Bowser will get the shaft.

Spoiler

/s

 

[Hyperactivity]

Sword taunt for Ganondorf is still there
Does he look bad this time to you guys? I can't tell
Shulk looks decent, in the gif there was some sort of symbol behind him that has to do with the Monado iirc
Bowser Jr. looks ACE

And Isaac can still be in, just like how Gematsu leaks didn't get Rosalina or most of this leak's characters.

Spoiler

Spoiler

No one respond to this part of the post negatively

 

[SmithnCo]

Poor Leaker.

I know some fans want their head on a spike, but you kept refreshing and spoiled it for yourself anyway. They only wanted what a lot of fans wanted: the end of months of speculative roster hype and denial, and the beginning of roster acceptance and gameplay hype.

I mean, the guy had to be under contract so I have no sympathy for him.

 

[Karsticles]

I need someone to help me understand where the list of 6 (Mach Rider, etc.) is coming from.