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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty

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*HIGH FIVE* LEAK!

yay Luma!
 
I understand, I suppose. Trailer announcements are hype. But these leaks have been very exciting.

I wasn't even going to buy the 3DS version, until now. No way I can wait until the Wii U release, at this point.

The opposite happened to me. Now I'm more likely just to wait for the Wii U version. At this point Bowser Jr. and DHD better have damn good reveal trailers or I'll hold off.
 
Alright, who want to give up avatar bets right now. I'm collecting the losing bets right now. I know two people already surrendered. I need to know if anyone would so I can make avatars for everyone.
 
Alright, who want to give up avatar bets right now. I'm collecting the losing bets right now. I know two people already surrendered. I need to know if anyone would so I can make avatars for everyone.

Is our avatar bet still going on? I remember we both bet against another Smash Gaffer, but I'm not sure if he still posts here or not. If he does, then he changed his avatar.
 
I understand, I suppose. Trailer announcements are hype. But these leaks have been very exciting.

I wasn't even going to buy the 3DS version, until now. No way I can wait until the Wii U release, at this point.

I'm going to try and avoid streams, forums(for smash 4), etc until the wii u version comes out. (Its gunna be a long/hard couple months)
 
So from the footage, can we tell if Ganondorf is shitty again?

He's still a falcon clone, yes. For all 6-ish of the moves that we saw.


So I just rewatched leak 6, with falcondorf.

All you ever see him do are:

Down smash - now has purple magic effects, back kick swings lower
neutral A - looks the same, hard to tell
Forward tilt - looks the same
up smash - seems to be quicker, has a slashing arc
up special - looks the same.
sword taunt - now has black magic surrounding it

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That's it.

Everything else (while likely the same) hasn't been shown off yet. Still hoping one of his specials is new... but I know the chances for that are low.
 
Alright guys, obviously anything could change, but if this is indeed our final list of newcomers:

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How do you feel Smash 4 did with it's newcomer selection? I made this picture so you try and think of the newcomers as a whole, not just the ones leaked.

Me personally? A few missed opportunities aside, fucking stoked. 15 new fighters is nothing to scoff regardless of clones, and you could even bump that number to 17 if you count the Mii Fighter as 3 different characters.

best: Lucina (even though just a clone), Greninja, Baby Bowser, Rosalina

every other newcomer ranges from 'okay' to 'meh' for me. Some of my favorite characters only make an appearance as an assist trophy. I just hope the leak with Ridley and Dixie turns out to be correct, though I doubt it
 
So from the footage, can we tell if Ganondorf is shitty again?

Well, they kept bestplaystylandorf. But it's fairly hard to tell. There's several important things we don't have a damn clue on. For example, one of the most obvious crippling things from Brawl, no longer regaining a jump after divekicking, is something we just have no clue about.
 
Heath, I think in terms of character wants, you came out with the best odds. Who is not in yet that you wanted?

Hmm. Here is the list here.

My original top 10 before the reveal were

1. Mega Man
2. Little Mac
3. Takamaru
4. Palutena
5. Animal Crossing Representative
6. Pac Man
7. Isaac (or Golden Sun Representative)
8. Duck Hunt Dog
9. Donkey Kong Country Representative (Dixie or King Rool)
10. Ridley

My top 10 after Little Mac's reveal

1. Takamaru
2. Palutena
3. Pac Man
4. Isaac (or Golden Sun Representative)
5. Duck Hunt Dog
6. Donkey Kong Country Representative (Dixie or King Rool)
7. Skulk
8. Ridley
9. Third Kid Icarus Representative (Medusa, Hades or Dark Pit)
10. Advance Wars

My top 9 after Robin's reveal

1. Takamaru
2. Snake (Returning)
3. Isaac (or Golden Sun Representative)
4. Duck Hunt Dog
5. Donkey Kong Country Representative (Dixie or King Rool)
6. Shulk
7. Ridley (for my friends)
8. Third Kid Icarus Representative (Medusa, Hades or Dark Pit)
9. Advance Wars

After Leak - Aug 25

1. Snake (Returning)
2. Isaac (or Golden Sun Representative)
3. Donkey Kong Country Representative (Dixie or King Rool)
4. Ridley (for my friends)
5. Advance Wars

Advance Wars, Takamaru and Isaac being assist trophies would be fine with me since it's better than being trophy or stickers. Ridley would become stage boss. Third Donkey Kong Country Representative is still unknown (I would prefer to see Cranky or Dixie actually)

Snake is more likely to be cut. I'm very very happy with what I got. Almost all of my wanted characters are in the game at any point. Assist trophy, playable characters, stage hazard, etc.

Unless, you are asking me for more?
 
So he was copy/pasted from brawl? Sort of sucks for Ganon mains that the game hasn't even come out and he is already confirmed low tier.

His moves have been tweaked, they now have purple magic/slashing effects. Their properties are also likely different.

That said, we still don't know his neutral/standard/down special, nor most of his other A attacks.

The youtube video I had here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=127036148&postcount=16280 has now been taken down.

Anyone have a new link? I wanna make more ganondorf comparison gifs.
 
His moves have been tweaked, they now have purple magic/slashing effects. Their properties are also likely different.

That said, we still don't know his neutral/standard/down special, nor most of his other A attacks.

Yeah your right but I dunno going on a gut feeling that nothing has really changed with him.
 
Would go along with those claiming to have insiders at NoA. Likely the same person.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was a C-Sticker who got upset by being told one too many time to go home.

What is wrong with using the C-stick?!?!!? Its functionality is used different on the Wii U version than previous Smash games. Still for Smash attacks but they aren't instant.
 
Heath, I think in terms of character wants, you came out with the best odds. Who is not in yet that you wanted?
Yeah, he did pretty good. His wishlist/predictions from way back:

IntelliHeath said:
Characters (59):

Mario
Luigi
Princess Peach
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Yoshi
Wario
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool
Link
Zelda & Sheik
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Samus & Zero Suit Samus
Ridley
Pit
Dark Pit
Palutena
Medusa
Kirby
Metaknight
King DeDeDe
Captain Olimar
Fox
Falco
Wolf
Captain Falcon
Black Shadow
Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer
Lucario
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo
Marth
Ike
Roy
Ness
Lucas
Tom Nook
Little Mac
Wonderful 101's main character
Isaac
Shulk
Ice Climbers
Takamaru
Mr. Game and Watch
R.O.B
Laughing Dog
Balloon Fighter
Snake
Sonic
Mega Man
Geno

Edit: Oh well, beaten by the man himself. Life goes on.
 
Kinda pissed about Ganondorf still being cloneish. Almost everyone wanted him changed. He better at least have some more Zeldaish custom specials.

Why change up Bowser so much but leave Ganondorf a fucking clone?! Ugh it annoys me so much!
 
It's annoying. Just about every single character I wanted to become a character (besides Saki and Takamaru) became a character, but Isaac is still missing!

Don't know how to feel
 
Trying to catch up since I've been out of the house all day.

Are we coming to the conclusion that it's possible all the characters weren't unlocked? I see the DLC thing is confirmed fake.

Just coming to grips with no Lucas...funny enough, I was starting to use Ice Climbers a lot more recently when I played too. Apparently whoever I main gets cut the next game.
And then comes back the next- LUCAS IN SMASH 5!
 
Kinda pissed about Ganondorf still being cloneish. Almost everyone wanted him changed. He better at least have some more Zeldaish custom specials.

Why change up Bowser so much but leave Ganondorf a fucking clone?! Ugh it annoys me so much!

Based on samurai's history so far we should expect there to be a ganondorf classic and a nu ganondorf. All new taste, same great flavor.

jokes
 
Anyone have a working link for the leak video?

Based on samurai's history so far we should expect there to be a ganondorf classic and a nu ganondorf. All new taste, same great flavor.

jokes

Now I'm hoping zelda Wii U has a radically different ganondorf or villain that gets reused some more so that he's in the next smash bros.
 
Heath's a fellow Geno supporter? :D

Yep, I still want him to be in the game but I knew that he have no chance tho. That list is my wish list because I don't really want to win at my own prize until someone added a new prize to our prize lots which made me regrets afterward. No regrets since I got most of newcomers right!
 
I'm pretty damn happy with the roster, but my top picks throughout the game's development consisted of Ray MK II, Travis Touchdown, Rocket Slime, Chibi Robo, Mewtwo, N, Ridley, and King K. Rool, so I'll be a bit bummed if, when all this is said and done, not one will have gotten in. But it's looking like that might be the case right now.

Kinda pissed about Ganondorf still being cloneish. Almost everyone wanted him changed. He better at least have some more Zeldaish custom specials.

I can honestly say that Ganondorf being decloned would have pissed me off more than any cut ever could lol.

EDIT: Holy shit, forgot about my main man Hades. He was also a big, big want, but I forgot about him once it became clear that we were already getting two new Kid Icarus reps.
 
Do you know what is sad thing about that roster? I fucking FORGET to put Pac Man on the list. That's why I recorrected myself with top 10 characters when someone asked about top 10 characters in old thread.
Awww man. You knew all along. :P

While we're talking about roster predictions, might as well show the stats for those here (courtesy of, again, IntelliHeath in another thread):

Confirmed Characters
Mario - 100%
Bowser - 99.16%
Link - 100%
Samus - 99.16%
Kirby - 99.16%
Fox - 99.16%
Pit - 97.48%
Donkey Kong - 98.32%
Pikachu - 100%
Villager - 0.84%
Mega Man - 58.83%
Wii Fit Trainer - 0%
Captain Olimar - 92.44%
Luigi - 100%
Princess Peach - 100%
Toon Link - 71.43%
Sonic - 89.08%
Marth - 95.80%
Rosalina - 4.21%
Zelda - 99.16%
King Dedede - 92.44%
Lucario - 36.14%
Little Mac - 60.51%
Diddy Kong - 93.28%
Zero Suit Samus - 84.04%
Sheik - 79.83%
Yoshi - 100%
Pokemon Trainer's Charizard - 46.22% & Pokemon Trainer - 89.08%
Pokemon X/Y - 29.42%
Ike - 47.90%
Mii - 20.17%
Palutena - 66.39%
Pac-Man - 57.15%
Lucina - 13.45%
Captain Falcon - 100%
Robin - 5.89%
Metaknight - 95.80%

Unconfirmed Characters

Mushroom Kingdom
Waluigi - 32.77%
Bowser Jr. - 22.69%
Paper Mario - 15.97%
Toad - 7.56%
Captain Syrup - 6.73%
Daisy - 2.53%
Fawful - 1.68%

Yoshi's Island
Kamek - 1.68%
Yarn Yoshi - 2.53%
Baby Bowser - 1.68%

WarioWare
Wario - 96.64%
Ashley - 2.53%
Mona - 1.68%

Legend of Zelda
Ganondorf - 91.60%
Ghirahim - 26.05%
Tingle - 11.77%
Impa - 10.93%
LTTP Link - 10.09%
Tetra - 8.41%
Toon Zelda - 7.56%
Skull Kid - 5.89%
Demise - 4.21%
TP Wolf Link - 4.21%
Ganon - 2.53%
Young Link - 2.53%

Metroid
Ridley - 59.67%

Kirby
Prince Fluff - 4.21%
Yarn Kirby - 2.53%
Waddle Dee - 1.68%

Star Fox
Falco - 89.92%
Wolf - 74.79%

Krystal - 16.81%
Peppy - 1.68%
Slippy - 1.68%

Kid Icarus
Hades - 12.61%
Medusa - 10.09%
Dark Pit - 9.25%
Magnus - 5.89%
Viridi - 1.68%

Donkey Kong Country
King K. Rool - 31.10%
Dixie Kong - 22.69%
Donkey and Diddy Kong - 1.68%

Pokémon
Jigglypuff - 90.76%
Mewtwo - 70.59%

Newtwo - 47.90%
Pokemon Trainer's Ivysaur - 46.22%
Pokemon Trainer's Squirtle - 46.22%

Pokemon X/Y - 29.42%
Zoroark - 10.09%
Second Pokemon Trainer - 7.56%
Genesect - 3.36%
Pokemon Rival - 2.53%
Victini - 2.53%
Meowth - 1.68%

Animal Crossing
Tom Nook - 10.09%
Mr. Resetti - 1.68%

Advance Wars
Andy - 4.21%
Sami - 1.68%

Earthbound
Ness - 99.16%
Lucas - 79%

Kumatora - 2.53%
Paula - 2.53%
Porky - 2.53%
Masked Man - 1.68%

F-Zero
Samurai Goroh - 9.25%
Black Shadow - 7.56%

Fire Emblem
Chrom - 76.47%
Roy - 15.97%
Lyn - 6.73%
Chrom & Lucina - 1.68%
Tharja - 1.68%

Golden Sun
Isaac - 36.14%
Matthew - 1.68%

Pikmin
Pikmin 3 Main Character - 5.05%
Louie - 1.68%
The President - 1.68%

Punch-Out
King Hippo - 2.53%

Retro
Ice Climbers - 94.12%
Mr. Game and Watch - 94.12%
R.O.B. - 82.36%

Takamaru - 58.83%
Mike Jones - 10.93%
Balloon Fighter - 6.73%
Sheriff - 5.05%
Mach Rider - 4.21%
Duck Hunt Dog - 3.36%
Sukapon - 2.53%

Sin & Punishment
Saki Amamiya - 9.25%
Isa and Katchi - 1.68%

The Last Story
Aeron - 1.68%
Zael - 1.68%

Xenoblade & X
Shulk - 64.71%
X's Representative - 3.36%

Misc.
Wonder-Red - 24.37%
Dillon - 14.29%
Retro's new IP protagonist - 6.73%
Chibi-Robo - 5.05%
Ray MK III - 4.21%
Stafy - 3.36%
Tempo - 2.53%
Jill - 1.68%
Mallo - 1.68%

Third-Party
Snake - 60.51%
Bayonetta - 31.10%
Professor Layton - 10.93%
Tails - 10.93%
Geno - 7.56%
Lloyd Irving - 6.73%
Rayman - 6.73%
Klonoa - 4.21%
Ryu Street Fighter - 4.21%
Simon Belmont - 4.21%
Travis Touchdown - 4.21%
Knuckles - 2.53%
Maxwell - 2.53%
Phoenix Wright - 2.53%
Shantae - 2.53%
Siegfried - 2.53%
Chase McCain - 1.68%
Crono - 1.68%
Goku - 1.68%
Heihachi - 1.68%
Jin Kazama - 1.68%
Monster Hunter's Hunter - 1.68%
Quote - 1.68%
Robotnik - 1.68%
 
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