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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty

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So assuming this is the final roster, who are your main(s) going to be?

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For me, Fox again and Ridley <33333

Main = Lucina
Secondary = Game and Watch, Toon Link, Captain Falcon, Marth, Ike, Robin, DeDeDe, Mewtwo, Little Mac, Shulk, Sonic (wow that's a lot)
Occasionally play = Bowser, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., Dr. Mario, Duck Hunt Dog, Link, Impa, Pit, Dark Pit, Palutena, Kirby, Meta Knight, Villager, Fox, Charizard, Jigglypuff, Ridley, Ness, Mega Man
Rarely/Never play = Everyone else probably
 
I just thought of something. What if Nintendo continues to host Smash tournaments after release and during those tournaments, you can bet gold just like you would in spectator mode in both the 3DS and Wii U versions.

Would be hype.
 
Oh man, them opening a special Spectator session for an E3 Invitational and allowing us to bet gold on those matches would be amazing
 
A small part of me doesn't want to even see Duck Hunt in motion until I have the game.

But then I look at the release gap until it's even out in the US and know I will immediately break.
 
Why are people cutting out Chorus Kids now?
Nobody has any idea what's going on because of the crazy Smashboards mods who are saying one thing and then another while claiming to be in cahoots with this person or that person over this or that...

It's all very silly. For now, just enjoy the characters we have in pictures and video. :-)
 
Sakurai can show whatever. Thanks to the leak, I got to see two new characters, tons of new trophies, etc. Even a new Smash Run enemy in the form of Devil Car. 'Tis a good day for Smash fans.

Yeah, I definitely agree (hell, I'm pretty happy with what Sakurai reveals all the time), I was mostly just really interested in PotD to see how they'd handle it post-leak. It seems like they're taking an aware approach by revealing something from the leaks + disabling comments, but not doing any information blowouts or anything.
 
I'm rather excited Doc is back. Given that his original clone properties involved heaviness and fast falling, he has a chance to be really effective again.

So many choices for troll characters. I suspect Mii fighters may be the trolliest.

And lol at the salt over Falcondorf. This is his character in Smash; get over it. At least in Melee he could stomp all over his detractors. Here's hoping he is made viable once again.
 
Yeah, I definitely agree (hell, I'm pretty happy with what Sakurai reveals all the time), I was mostly just really interested in PotD to see how they'd handle it post-leak. It seems like they're taking an aware approach by revealing something from the leaks + disabling comments, but not doing any information blowouts or anything.
Comments are enabled and for all we know this is what they planned to post.

The leak covered a lot. Almost anything could be from the leak in some form.
 
Alright guys, obviously anything could change, but if this is indeed our final list of newcomers:

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How do you feel Smash 4 did with it's newcomer selection? I made this picture so you try and think of the newcomers as a whole, not just the ones leaked.

Me personally? A few missed opportunities aside, fucking stoked. 15 new fighters is nothing to scoff regardless of clones, and you could even bump that number to 17 if you count the Mii Fighter as 3 different characters.
Shulk: Really glad he's in since I feel Xenoblade is probably the best new 'IP' to get represented in Smash after Brawl. Should hopefully also dispell the idea Nintendo's going to run out of ideas for what new franchises to pull into Smash, but whateves.

Pac-Man: Fairly boring on paper but really interesting in motion. Don't expect to main him, but they've done a great job in selling him so far and he definitely deserved to get in.

Bowser Jr.: Same as the above really, though I definitely appreciate having the Koopalings as alts since I care way more about them than I do Jr.

Wii Fit Trainer: Definitely the best choice for a completely out of left field roster pick, though I'm not sure on how fun she actually looks to play. Still think she was a worthwhile addition though.

Villager: AC deserved some proper playable representation, but I'd be lying if I said I thought Villager looked all that interesting. Could just be since they're an even blanker slate than Link/Robin, but it doesn't feel like outside of memes there's too much to latch onto the character.

Mega Man: Easily the most excited for him, almost pitch-perfect representation beyond maybe finding the lack of VA (even if his voice in the show and MM8 is awful) a tad awkward.

Rosalina: Favorite new Mario character in the mainline games, also fairly unexpected. Don't have a great feel for the 'puppet' mechanic yet, but I still appreciate she's there. Her and Bowser Jr. together also help represent the two different sides of 'main' Mario games (3D and NSMB) pretty well too!

Palutena: Despite being one of my most wanted newcomers after Mega and Ridley, I don't really know what to feel about her now that I've seen her in action. She doesn't look as expressive or fun as she came across in Uprising, and custom moves are too much of an unknown for me to know whether playing as her largely custom-dependent moveset a chore or really fun.

Little Mac: Behind Palutena in my list of most wanted before the game was announced, I really love how he looks. Like MM he's really close to how I imagined him and I feel they worked in the boxer-motif excellently, right down to his intentionally but amusingly shit air-game. Just hope we get an easter egg with Doc Louis like the Codec scenes in Brawl.

Duck Hunt Dog: Probably the best NES rep you could choose. From the little we know he almost looks like Sakurai's weird way of alluding to the Banjo & Kazooie addition that'll never happen now, but that could just be the Rare fanboy in me talking. Still, really look forward to seeing how he looks.

Lucina: Definitely the most sensible idea for a clone and a great way to appease fans who really wanted her without sacrificing a proper FE:A rep. She's cool with me.

Greninja: Looks pretty fun, but I'd be lying if I said Pokemon stuff in Smash outside the possibility of Mewtwo ever gets me excited. Probably the character I'm the least excited for, but he clearly has his place in presenting X&Y.

Mii Fighters: Like Pac-Man/Bowser Jr., they sound really boring when you just have their name on a piece of paper but are way more interesting in execution. Really looking forward to having the Breaking Bad cast duke it out with my Game of Thrones and Arrested Development Mii's, though it definitely sucks how they're restricted on the internet.

Robin: Absolute best possible FE newcomer I didn't expect due to Chrom. Really glad I played FE:A too since I really do think there's a ton of cool shit they can do with Robin, and working in their female version was a great move on their part too. Just hope you can change the face and hair-styles to bring it closer to my version I played as in FE:A.

Dark Pit: I'm fine with him since I was a huge Uprising fan, but I'd be lying if I said he was all that justified beyond being another character addition. Still, I'm probably more excited for him than Greninja which I'm sure will piss people off.

Overall it's a mostly great newcomer list, beyond the lack of a Metroid, DK or Zelda newcomer stopping it from being perfect. In the context of Wii Fit and Xenoblade, the lack of Rhythm Heaven also feels a bit weird since it's another noteworthy Nintendo franchise that's big enough to justify a rep now.

The addition Ridley/Dixie/Mewtwo/Impa/Mach/Chorus Kids would easily make it the absolute best newcomer lineup we've had yet, though if those don't pan out it gives SSB5 more to work off I guess.
 
I think all the non-Dark Pit newcomers are incredible, all of them are great choices. Bowser Jr. is a bit of a second-rater to me so I'm kind of put off by his appearance in Smash 4, but using the clown car is some classic shit and he looks fun and original so I'm totally down.

Just...no Climbers??? No Lucas or Wolf?? Dark Pit and Dr. Mario aren't disappointing per se because I know they're last minute "whatever" dudes and with how many INCREDIBLE newcomers we have it's hard to complain about clones, but even in the realm of quickie clone characters Dark Pit and Dr. Mario feel like they're scraping the bottom of the barrel. You could've put in...Lucas or Wolf...

Heck, even if it couldn't be Lucas or Wolf, you could've done like, I don't know. I'm not the biggest Dixie Kong fan but you could've done a half-assed Diddy Kong clone and made way more people happy than you would have with Pit But Angry.
 
Why is everyone acting like the gamers spoiled the game? It was leakers, and it was going to happen regardless. Games always leak, stop blaming it on us being "spoiled" or "cheats" or whatever.

Also, stop whinging about fucking "filler", the game is nearly out, he can upload whatever the heck he wants. If if doesn't interest you, keep it to yourself. Y'all got a huge-ass leak yesterday.

I respect Sakurai's work and understand his disappointment, so I will still enjoy each PotD even though I have seen it early, and I still look forward to the game. :)
 
God if Mach Rider is in the game I'm so down to wreck some people with him

there are soooooo many characters in this game I wanna play... gonna be hard to narrow down my mains
 
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So with this probably being the final roster lets start making bets on who will be low/bottom tier, I'm gunna go with Ganon, samus, link, jigglypuff and deep down megaman (In every fighting game hes been in he is low tier)
 
So assuming this is the final roster, who are your main(s) going to be?

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For me, Fox again and Ridley <33333

Main
Bowser Jr. (Lemmy)
Dixie
Shiek
Mega Man
Greninja
Dedede
Ridley (If he has an alt that isn't just a recolor of his Other M design)

Secondary
Rosalina
Little Mac
Ness
Mewtwo
Mr. G&W
Duck Hunt
Marth
Ike
Meta Knight
Diddy Kong
 
So assuming this is the final roster, who are your main(s) going to be?
I've mained Link since the original game and quickly jumped the wagon once the Superior Toon Link got introduced, so that.

I'm really eager to try Robin and Greninja, though. Definitely making one of them my secondary. I wanna try Palutena too, but I'm not much of a keepaway fighter.
I warned you this would be the case. Run up to Brawl was full of rounding things up which included a lot on menu items that hadn't be discussed before.

Smash is a big game and there's a lot of menu items we haven't seen yet so expect more to come.
I just wish they were a bit more spread out.
Link is low tier.
Should have gone with Toon Link!
 
God if Mach Rider is in the game I'm so down to wreck some people with him

there are soooooo many characters in this game I wanna play... gonna be hard to narrow down my mains

What if Mach Rider would be a Captain Falcon clon--

no wait

What if he had this amazing magic/sword based moveset befitting of ganondorf for no reason.
 
i thought mach rider was a woman

yeeeah theres kinda that whole debate about the arcade vs NES game

tbh I'm not sure what Nintendo considers canon as far as Mach Rider is concerned

EDIT: I actually just looked it up and Melee's trophy calls Mach Rider male, so that's what I'm goin' with.
 
Going back to the old Nintendo Direct "trophy hint" thing, if Ridley and Impa are in then it basically confirms that, right? Though I'm still very skeptical about the identities of the remaining few.
 
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