Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life
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So I guess we should compromise and call them "Chorus People!"
DICKS AHOY
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Also really hope the stage builder isn't gone, it has a ton of potential.
Surely it would've had to show up sooner or later to the ESRB after how many penis submissions there were in Brawl?
Surely it would've had to show up sooner or later to the ESRB after how many penis submissions there were in Brawl?
Jawmuncher
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But my point is the Character Select Screen was included so the ESRB could see whether any of the playable characters are objectionable in and of themselves. It's starting with the big picture and working your way to the finer details.
I believe the complete CSS was included for the purposes of the "big picture" where playable characters are concerned, and thus that excerpt from the footage reflects the full extent of what will be unlockable in the base game.
MisterWisp
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Aaronrules380
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I kind of doubt player created content will be rated. I mean, the ESRB doesn't rate online interactions for that reason
The Bankslammer
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God, I hope so. I adore KI:U's cast, but I kinda worry that with 3 characters, the situation will be like the Star Fox characters where the conversations are just pretty standard banter. I mean, that's not a bad thing by any means, and I see it being very likely due to Viridi's voice showing up in the Palutena trailer, but it's specifically the commentary on other characters that I really loved.
Doc Louis ring-side comments would be perfect, too.
Damn, that Metal Gear Gamecube looks amazing. I've never seen that before.
Is that a port of the original Metal Gear to GC on the right of that pic?
Jawmuncher
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I already know there's no changing the minds of people who feel that way about snake.
Yep
The Bankslammer
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The NES version, actually. I think it might be the only re-release it's ever gotten?
My theory is based on an assumption that the contents of the ESRB video are selections that could affect ratings. I say this because everything else seemed to be that way, I.E. gambling, drugs, sex, violence, religion, personal information, etc. Thus, why include the CSS screen if it doesn't affect ratings? I think it does affect ratings, and it affects ratings based on the game's character selection. Thus, the full selection of characters available in the base game were shown for this reason.
ShockingAlberto
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MGS3DS was kind of an embarrassment.
Let me put it this way: I own literally every single version of MGS3 (including all three HD collections, vanilla, Subsistence, and Legacy Collection) and never trade in games
I bought MGS3DS and traded it in when I was done.
Let me put it this way: I own literally every single version of MGS3 (including all three HD collections, vanilla, Subsistence, and Legacy Collection) and never trade in games
I bought MGS3DS and traded it in when I was done.
BassForever
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You have no way to prove that either, all we can say for sure from the leaked esrb pics and video is that all the characters in that video are in the game. Plus the way sakurai makes games its completely possible that at the time noa was taking footage from build x they had already finished implementing more characters, or they could have been fine tuning the finalized roster.
We don't know the timeline of when this video was sent to the esrb, only that this leak first popped up in July so we know the video had to have been made/submitted sometime in June.
Jawmuncher
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I didn't think it was that bad especially with the CPP.
My only real complaint was that sometimes the small screen was an issue.
Such as in the fight with The Fear. The new additions were nice.
Demon Lizardman
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Who was the guy on gamefaqs that said that he would show off some leaks tonight?
ShockingAlberto
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A run of MGS3 takes me about four hours and I was on a plane.
No hope. Spam projectiles. Hit them with normals when they're stunned by your projectiles. Go for keep away, not combos.
Franchuzas87
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The fact is nowadays not only Sony, but even Microsoft is more related to Snake than Nintendo.
MGS2 HD, Peace Walker HD, MGS5... Nothing goes for Wii U.
If only it was optimized it would have been a great port.
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Xpike
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That's more Konami's fault at not wanting to invest in a console that apparently doesn't sell than Kojima's fault, tho.
Jawmuncher
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The Argument I come back to is that the creator and nintendo themselves felt that Snake was a great addition to SSB. Considering they allowed it. So why I can understand where people are coming from I can't really agree when the people making it didn't have a problem with it.
Creepy I can live with, but not Pedophile ;_; how rude
Thanks (Smash) Bros.! The imgur looks like it could be legit, but also could not be...and doesn't really...reveal much of anything importance, right?
Uh I remember reading reactions after the big leak, most people were definitely optimistic about there being more characters. I don't think everyone is jumping to pessimism.
I'm 50/50 on it.
My reasoning why there might be more characters: CSS is skewed, All-Star mode is locked, no Ice Climbers, and most importantly, we don't know how much footage and pictures were shown and how much we haven't seen.
My reasoning why this could be the final roster: Sakurai obviously isn't going to work his character count around the symmetricity of the CSS, it's very unlikely past characters like Wolf, Lucas, Ice Climbers would be unlocked after Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt Dog, Shulk, etc., the ESRB footage is meant to show off the content and thus all the characters, the leaker probably wanted to show off the most revealing shots and the select screen was it.
I don't believe the most recent imgur leak. Waddle Dee and Morton's pictures make me feel like I'm looking at a Garry's Mod screenshot.
ShockingAlberto
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...Okami. I was talking about Okami.
So there's nothing to stop Sakurai from bucking tradition, but let's say he takes a page from Brawl in terms of hidden newcomers.
Brawl had four hidden newcomers: Toon Link (a clone), Lucario, Wolf and R.O.B.
Given my current theory that the leaked CSS is the full extent of characters in the base game, SSB4 could do the same: Dark Pit (a clone), Bowser Jr., Shulk and Duck Hunt.
So each game would have had four hidden newcomers, one of which is a clone, and one of which is a classic reference.
Again, Sakurai doesn't have to repeat the past. He could reveal some more before launch for the purposes of hype. They do have dedicated trailers, after all, and he'd probably want to roll them out at some point, unless they're meant to debut in-game.
Brawl had four hidden newcomers: Toon Link (a clone), Lucario, Wolf and R.O.B.
Given my current theory that the leaked CSS is the full extent of characters in the base game, SSB4 could do the same: Dark Pit (a clone), Bowser Jr., Shulk and Duck Hunt.
So each game would have had four hidden newcomers, one of which is a clone, and one of which is a classic reference.
Again, Sakurai doesn't have to repeat the past. He could reveal some more before launch for the purposes of hype. They do have dedicated trailers, after all, and he'd probably want to roll them out at some point, unless they're meant to debut in-game.
KelpPlankton
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The way those two images blended into one another I thought I had missed some bizarre 3DS-Gamecube MGS bundle for a minute.
Not gonna lie, my first thought was Bayonetta, haha.
Of course that doesn't make any damn sense, so I quickly realized it was Okami.
Damnit Heath!
PadWarrior
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Wish granted!
Beat me to it lol.
Finale Fireworker
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We know from what the ESRB rates that there is nothing on the CSS that would even influence their rating process. So whether the roster is complete or not wouldn't matter at all.
Call me crazy but it's my favorite version because it has third-person shooting. I also love the 3D and I think the textures in the HD versions look off.
Hyperactivity
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Just wondering, what does CSS stand for?
KelpPlankton
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Yep pretty much.
In fact, that video isn't even going to disclose everything in the game comprehensively, it's accompanied by a document that lists the rest of the game's content, including anything on the disc that's not accessible via gameplay (unused assets, beta maps, etc).
There could be a lot of stuff we don't know about.
OR there could be nothing.
Gotta wait and see.
Blooddimond
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Character Select Screen
Character Select Screen.
This may have already been posted, but I thought it was cool!
This guy recreated the leaked character select screen in photoshop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVf-r2gZlDk
This guy recreated the leaked character select screen in photoshop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVf-r2gZlDk
But why do you think the CSS was included in a video compilation of items relevant to the ESRB and their ratings?
I really do think it's a "big picture" look at the characters in this fighting game, so they can see you're not beating the crap out of naked women or who knows what.
They start with the big picture and then go into detail with individual cases.
Franchuzas87
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Wasn't Kojima like, literally, one of the Big Bosses from Konami? Maybe I remember wrong.
Well, I never got the Snake addition to begin with, but at least in Brawl's time an "exclusive" Metal Gear game (Twin Snakes) had been released for GameCube the previous gen. Now Snake is almost in every platform except Nintendo ones.
If that doesn't make him a better fit for something like Sony All-Stars, I don't know what does.
Cut Solid Snake.
Oh, nice! Did he upload the "clean" version anywhere?
It's so beautiful. <3_<3
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