The Great Gonzales
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go back to college sakurai
Didn't Bob cancel his preorder because of dat sakurik bias just the other day?
edit: wow, what a shitty post to be on top of the page. Sorry for posting Bob all the way up here.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life
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Didn't Bob cancel his preorder because of dat sakurik bias just the other day?
edit: wow, what a shitty post to be on top of the page. Sorry for posting Bob all the way up here.
go back to college sakurai
Haven't seen that much salt since the Bayo2 thread
Oh shit. Can't believe we're so close to release.
Sure, I'll PM you guys when I can play this weekend! Sounds great! Exciting!
True, but none of that print was published or created by nintendo. I guess I should have been more clear. That is a valid point though, so it's not impossible. I'm just not expecting anything (i'll still watch it) unless it's also announced for US.
Shitty? More like most amazing post EVAH!1!
PadWarrior
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Have fun and of course more mega man goodness
dark_inferno
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When does the ND start?
Awesome! I look forward to the discussion.
If you can notice any differences as far as how the game feels compared to the E3 build that would be great to know. As I'm sure you are aware people are a little concerned with how much landing lag some aerial attacks have compared to previous games. I know you're not the type of person to normally look out for that sorta thing but since this is a closed media event it would be nice if you could pay a little more attention and see if things generally feel any "better" than the E3 build.
Though I guess going on feel might not indicate much since with any newer build things are bound to be more polished... but I just wanna know if there's anything clearly evident to indicate if things have changed whatsoever.
Whaaaaat? They actually specified that it's a new build?
That's hype. Enjoy it! Even if you can't tell us about it. : |
blue_phazon
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Ridley was never teased as a character. He was just teased as a stage boss thing. I can't understand how people can actually think he has a chance of being a playable character
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I have heard same thing about closed media event for Smash 3DS with new (supposedly) build. I'm pretty sure that the impressions and reviews are more likely to be under NDAs. No worries! I hope that you are going to have fun at there! KICK SOME BUTTS FOR US!
I'm looking forward to the parody that PETA releases where you play as duck hunt dog trying to kill all the characters in smash because the actual game promotes cruelty to animals or something stupid like that.
Because it was never explicitly stated what his role in the game was, unlike every single other fan-favourite character that got deconfirmed.
Because it was never explicitly stated what his role in the game was, unlike every single other fan-favourite character that got deconfirmed.
Jawmuncher
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I wonder if people also have a problem with Zelda's face.
Zelda looks fine to me.
NeonZ
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To be fair, all other characters that were teased and could be mixed up with playable characters have been immediately revealed to be just an assist trophy or Final Smash, in Chrom's case.
Ridley is the only possibly playable character that has been teased for a non playable role and then just left in silence like that. It's kind of odd that from one side they seem to acknowledge that negative hype is stupid and are mostly avoiding it, but from another we have Ridley, who's likely to be a boss but just got teased, rather than immediately confirmed to not be playable.
He's in the 'yellow devil' segment of the direct. Dark samus was in the 'assist trophy' segment of the direct and dark samus is an assist trophy.
Ridley's shadow is a yellow devil in smash confirmed.
If he'd said "Other stage bosses appear" instead of "Other boss characters appear", or actually clarified it a week or two after instead of never mentioning it again, I'd be a lot more inclined to believe he wasn't playable.
He's probably not in the game as a playable character, but the way every bit of media around him has been handled leads me to believe he can't just be a stage boss, that would be needless teasing and goes against what he's said about leading people on before.
I know, i'm messing with you. You could argue that the direct showed the halberd, but we didn't get metaknight until two weeks ago. Honestly, sakurai's whims aren't worth analyzing until the game comes out. He seems to do things for a reason, but the reason is almost impossible to determine until we know more info.
I can't understand how people can't see the reasons why there's still a chance for Ridley.
- Ridley was never actually revealed as a boss character.
- Sakurai is known for trolling.
- Other highly requested characters such as Waluigi and Saki were revealed as not playable reasonably quickly.
What would Sakurai gain from stringing fans along rather than making it absolutely clear that Ridley wouldn't be playable? At the time, that boss tease actually made me MORE convinced Ridley would be playable. Same thing for the Greninja reveal...I felt the video was trying to make us think it was Mewtwo for a sec there.
Eh, you could argue that, but it doesn't go against him not liking to lead people on with ambiguity only to disappoint them because Metaknight is in the game.
I'm pretty sure there's just going to be some awful "play as a stage boss" mode revealed with Ridley front and centre and that Sakurai would think that it was a great payoff for the teasing, which I heavily disagree with.
Best case scenario he's a WiiU exclusive character/absent from the 3DS version until the WiiU version releases.
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Xpike
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Because Sakurai is a meanie, and I expect he'll be more of a meanie now that the leaks have destroyed all sense of surprise he wanted.
He should have saved all the worst characters for last so that when (not if, when) they eventually leaked pre-release, no one would care as much.
On the flipside, maybe people would have been more annoyed if all the worst ones were saved for last...
It's just a lose-lose situation really.
Beelzebufo
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I doubt we'll even get a boss mode. All of the bosses revealed so far are just glorified stage hazards, it'd be the least interesting mode ever.
I hope not, but there are a lot of people in this thread that like the idea of such a mode so it's not such a stretch to think that Sakurai would think it was fun.
Eh, I think controlling stage hazards (all hazards, even bosses) could be a fun mode to play if
A. You're not good at smash but still want to play w/ friends/family
B. You want to troll your friends
C. You're the 5th wheel and would rather interact with the stage than sit out for a turn and do nothing but watch
For many of you, this may never, or rarely, be the case, so it doesn't matter. In my house, there's an 8 year old who would adore this mode. Many of you often forget that smash isn't just for people who take it seriously.
Beelzebufo
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Would there even be enough stuff for those people to do though? Like not many stages have hazards that interact with players like that, and even ones that do don't really do much (yellow devil can hit A to appear, A to switch sides). The only thing I've seen so far that would make sense would be like being able to control Nabbit or something.
KelpPlankton
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I keep seeing people be like "Sakurai is known for trolling!" but he never did anything other than that Zero Suit Samus thing. Y'all are just convincing yourselves he's teasing things or implying things when he never is.
Doing stuff like going "Waluigi is an assist trophy, he is not playable" is disappointing but it's not some sort of misdirection.
He showed Ridley in the context of being a boss fight, so Ridley is going to be a boss fight. He was teasing Ridley as a boss fight. He wasn't doing some crazy mindgame where he implies Ridley is a boss to throw you off the trail so he can troll you or trick you or something.
Ridley is just going to be a boss, like he has already said.
Doing stuff like going "Waluigi is an assist trophy, he is not playable" is disappointing but it's not some sort of misdirection.
He showed Ridley in the context of being a boss fight, so Ridley is going to be a boss fight. He was teasing Ridley as a boss fight. He wasn't doing some crazy mindgame where he implies Ridley is a boss to throw you off the trail so he can troll you or trick you or something.
Ridley is just going to be a boss, like he has already said.
Sakurai has to be aware that Ridley is one of the most requested characters in the west, right? In which case it makes absolutely no sense to keep teasing his role in the game rather than just shutting it down early with a clear reveal of him as a boss character.
The response to that always seems to be "but he was just teasing him as a boss character, it wasn't anything more than that."
Well, if that was the case...Sakurai would still have quickly noticed the reaction to that direct and that it was just hyping people up even more. He clearly wanted to avoid leading on fans of other characters when he deconfirmed them, so why would he leave it like this in Ridley's case for so long? If Ridley had been explicitly shown as a boss character in that direct, we'd all have accepted it by now and some people would probably be less disappointed.
The response to that always seems to be "but he was just teasing him as a boss character, it wasn't anything more than that."
Well, if that was the case...Sakurai would still have quickly noticed the reaction to that direct and that it was just hyping people up even more. He clearly wanted to avoid leading on fans of other characters when he deconfirmed them, so why would he leave it like this in Ridley's case for so long? If Ridley had been explicitly shown as a boss character in that direct, we'd all have accepted it by now and some people would probably be less disappointed.
Well, if it's just stage hazards on cooldown, or boss attacks on cooldown, not too much. I'm sure if someone was designing that mode though, they'd give you more stuff to do, like spawn items (bob-ombs, healing items, etc) in random or set locations, maybe allow you to place pitfall traps or mines, I dunno. I'm sure there'd more more stuff to do.
Handicaps are for people who don't know how to play smash, I can't see them having fun playing a heavily toned down version of a character.
Sm4sh should have the Project M stock control, I've just been playing with my cousin who doesn't even know how to recover, even though I've tried explaining it to her like 50 times, and put her with 5 stocks and me with 1, seems to work fine.
Sm4sh should have the Project M stock control, I've just been playing with my cousin who doesn't even know how to recover, even though I've tried explaining it to her like 50 times, and put her with 5 stocks and me with 1, seems to work fine.
Jawmuncher
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But he doesn't care what we want.
RomanceDawn
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There is definitely something different about the way Sakurai is handling Ridley. He hasn't even mentioned him by name yet. Not to mention the footage we actually saw of him flying slowly across the screen with jittery movements just seems really fishy to me. What ever was happening on screen with Pikachu was certainly just a small part of what ever is to come but the way Ridley just hovered across, stopped, then started moving again just seemed really lackluster.
If I were to ever expect Ridley as a hazard I'd expect anytime he wasn't idle he'd be moving much more dynamically. I don't know what it is but Ridley will not just be a new Yellow Devil or what ever went on in Dead or Alive. I am absolutely certain of that.
If I were to ever expect Ridley as a hazard I'd expect anytime he wasn't idle he'd be moving much more dynamically. I don't know what it is but Ridley will not just be a new Yellow Devil or what ever went on in Dead or Alive. I am absolutely certain of that.
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Pop-O-Matic
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Shit you're right, I was just trying to source the translation.
Beelzebufo
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Yeah, I don't know if NintendoDream knows what they're talking about, but they basically say he's a stage boss, just like Sakurai.
To be fair that literally means nothing, it doesn't give us any new information other than saying that a shadow was shown on it in the direct.
If it said something like "can only be seen here" or something then yeah, but all it's saying is that we saw a shadow in a direct, they don't have any information about it we don't from the sounds of things.
Sakurai quickly deconfirmed other characters though!
Why would he do that for some characters that didn't make it into the game, and then when it comes to Ridley, one of THE most requested characters, he just teases and strings Ridley supporters along?
You're going to be disappointed. Please understand.
Lol.
theprodigy
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I bet the staff working on Super Smash Bros. 4 laughs every time they see a Ridley request online.
He should be called 'NEWCOMER'
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