Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life

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I was told this was a thread filled with hand holding and singing!

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emb said:
I don't really understand this perspective. Why should we not hope for the game to be similar to our favorite Smash game, to be the best Smash Bros. it could be?
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With this are you referring to Melee? Because if so then you answer your own question about his perspective.

I have been playing smash since 64, been hosting tourneys since melee, and tried to be a large part of my states smash scene. I love all the smash games, they are all unique and fun for different reasons both competitively and casually (and I am more than happy to include project M in the list of smash games).

The problem that I see and I think bugs quite a few people (myself included) is the idea that as smash continues to grow and develop and perfect itself as a series is that it will inevitably and irrefutably get more and more akin to melee and the metagame it has developed.
 
Mik317 said:
I don't care how someone enjoys or plays a game.

Just don't act like your way is the only and best way and basically be a dick about it to others who don't share your views on it. Also don't act like everything need to be catered to your playstyle.

I hate the entitiled game shit but some people really makes it hard not to agree w/ at times.

Me personally...It's more Smash and that alone is good enough.
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Basically.

It goes both ways. The "fuck competitive players" group is just as annoying as the "fuck brawl/casual smash" group. If Sakurai didn't intend for the game to be played in a competitive manner (no items, limited stages), there wouldn't be a For Glory mode.
 
WonderRade said:
With this are you referring to Melee? Because if so then you answer your own question about his perspective.

I have been playing smash since 64, been hosting tourneys since melee, and tried to be a large part of my states smash scene. I love all the smash games, they are all unique and fun for different reasons both competitively and casually (and I am more than happy to include project M in the list of smash games).

The problem that I see and I think bugs quite a few people (myself included) is the idea that as smash continues to grow and develop and perfect itself as a series is that it will inevitably and irrefutably get more and more akin to melee and the metagame it has developed.
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There's a lot of variety of opinion within the competitive community on ideal mechanics. For example, a lot of people would happily do away with L-canceling if aerial lag was reduced globally. Ultimately, a more competitive game provides players with more and better options.
 
Anth0ny said:
Basically.

It goes both ways. The "fuck competitive players" group is just as annoying as the "fuck brawl/casual smash" group.
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This is very true, Its been said before but at the end of the day we all need to realize it really is just Smashers A prefers this, Smasher B prefers that, so good luck to both of ya!
 
I used to not really like Melee/Tourney talk back in the day since I really enjoyed Brawl. But lurking the subsequent threads up to this one and finally playing project M myself really changed my mind.

I like both style of game now.
 
Mik317 said:
I don't care how someone enjoys or plays a game.

Just don't act like your way is the only and best way and basically be a dick about it to others who don't share your views on it. Also don't act like everything need to be catered to your playstyle.

I hate the entitiled game shit but some people really makes it hard not to agree w/ at times.

Me personally...It's more Smash and that alone is good enough.
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Yup, this sums up how I feel about it too.

It helps that I'm weirdly situated between being a competitive player and a casual player. But still, I think we can all agree that the only people who are terrible are the people saying "your side sucks my side is better."

Also may I please have my pic of the day now
 
as long as i have fun and a lot of good laughs with my friends and family at the most ridiculous shit in smash bros, nothing else matters
 
OricWindstar said:
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NO you're a rock! you belong to the ground and we to the office!!

but seriously, I love competitive fighting games, and smash is like the black sheep in there(duuur is not a fighter!! huuur!!), and when you get into it, you find out that the smash community is a bunch of elitists that are torn apart in either melee or brawl, wth people lol
 
foxuzamaki said:
Alright so someone catch me up, I come in and I feel tension all over the place
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Nah, it's not that bad. There was just potential confirmation of a technique found in the Smash 4 demo that would basically be the new l-canceling and it brought up the usual casual vs competitive argument.
 
Makai said:
There's a lot of variety of opinion within the competitive community on ideal mechanics. For example, a lot of people would happily do away with L-canceling if aerial lag was reduced globally. Ultimately, a more competitive game provides players with more and better options.
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Totally agreed, Its just the dismissiveness (new word?) that sometimes comes whenever something new or different is presented.

The example I think of is the new ledgehogging mechanics. Depending on a lot of factors, invincibility frames, lag after you get booted off, etc, this can develop into a very new and different sort of ledgeplay; however it feels at time as though it gets dismissed simply BECAUSE it is different.
 
OricWindstar said:
Nah, it's not that bad. There was just potential confirmation of a technique found in the Smash 4 demo that would basically be the new l-canceling and it brought up the usual casual vs competitive argument.
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Oh gosh guys tensions must be high if arguments broke out over that
 
WonderRade said:
Totally agreed, Its just the dismissiveness (new word?) that sometimes comes whenever something new or different is presented.

The example I think of is the new ledgehogging mechanics. Depending on a lot of factors, invincibility frames, lag after you get booted off, etc, this can develop into a very new and different sort of ledgeplay; however it feels at time as though it gets dismissed simply BECAUSE it is different.
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I like the new ledge mechanics. I don't frequent SmashBoards, but it certainly hasn't been dismissed outright. Even the winner of the 3DS tournament thought it was an interesting change.

 
IceDoesntHelp said:
I don't hate any of you, I'm just so sick of people hating on Brawl and possibly Sm4sh because its not good enough for tourney's.
Its the reason why I hate Project M, had to make it like melee, cause its the perfect Tourney smash game.

Just annoys me.
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I can hate Brawl as a competitive game but still appreciate how great it is at celebrating Nintendo's history. I don't see how it's weird that I'm hoping Smash 4 would be more like 64 or Melee rather than Brawl. I'll still enjoy the game, but I can hope for it to be competitive. And I always felt competition keeps the game relevent for a long time, we get live streams of Melee on a regular basis nowadays, how cool is that? Brawl just didn't have the mechanics needed to be a long-term game like Melee was.

I also don't see how anyone can "hate" Project M, a console mod on that level should be appreciated. I mean they even added back Yoshi's Story and Dreamland 64. Hacks are neat. They made it more like Melee since Melee has more options competitively, though I do disagree with them adding stuff like L-Canceling back in.
 
I hope to god that fox and falco get new smash attacks. Call in an arwing, have slippy crash into the course while yelling for help, hell summon a dinosaur from dinoplanet but please please no more land master.
 
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