Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition

i got chased with pitchforks for not wanting snake in this but hating on bayo is cool.

I disagree. I dislike that so many in Smash GAF don't want her in. There is no overarching "theme" to the game that is viciously violated if she were in, or if snake were in.

Its a smash brawler beat'em up with the best gameplay of any fighter I've ever played. The imagery isn't as important as the gameplay. And I think she would add a great character to the mix.
 
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So you've got to try and get to the highest point before the other players, huh? And you've got to watch out for danger zones?

So you might call this mode...

Highway to the Danger Zone

That's what I'll call the race one yeah. Then again, you're not aiming to get to the danger zone, you're trying to avoid it.

Great name for it, though. Is it a literal translation of the japanese, or a great localization? Anyone know?
 
Speaking of ridiculous reasons for not wanting characters in Smash, I feel like I remember someone ages ago on a different forum arguing they didn't want Birdo in Smash (in any form) because they didn't want to have to explain what a transexual is to their kids.

Why do you think NoA removed all the stuff about Vivian's gender in TTYD? That sort of gender ambiguity isn't allowed on American soil because people will freak out.
 
That's what I'll call the race one yeah. Then again, you're not aiming to get to the danger zone, you're trying to avoid it.

Great name for it, though. Is it a literal translation of the japanese, or a great localization? Anyone know?

It's a Top Gun joke :)
 
Speaking of ridiculous reasons for not wanting characters in Smash, I feel like I remember someone ages ago on a different forum arguing they didn't want Birdo in Smash (in any form) because they didn't want to have to explain what a transexual is to their kids.

Lol. How would the topic even come up? What kid is going to look at birdo and say 'mom why is that man pink and shooting eggs out of his mouth? Why is he pretending to be a girl?'

No parent is going to say 'now... before you play smash... there's something you need to know... about birdo. You see, in the japanese instruction manual, it says it's a he, so that led fans to speculate about birdo being a transexual. This was further proven in the japan-only game captain rainbow, where there is a quest to prove that birdo is a woman. In that quest...'

Like what?

It's a Top Gun joke :)

I know. I know all about kenny loggins.

Didn't realize that what I typed could be construed as to mean I didn't get the reference o.O
 
We aren't getting anything Bayonetta related for Smash because she would have certainly showed up in the ESRB leak due to... you know. Unless Candy Kong is more inappropriate than Bayonetta.
 
I'm not a fan of censorship and myself am very conscious about how women and minorities are portrayed in the entertainment I consume, and would put Smash, if Bayonetta appeared in it, in the second category.

I do agree it's a very subjective thing though, and it also depends on the child's circumstances (age, maturity, etc) that only a parent would be able to assess correctly.
It would be beyond idiotic if I ever have to have a conversation about whether Smash Bros. is appropriate to share with children. That's generally the great thing about Nintendo; I don't have to think about it if kids show up, I can just offer them to play with me.

Personally I wish almost everything was more generally appropriate, and I'd like if extreme gore, strong sexuality, and even swearing were just kept out of games. I know I'm in a minority there though (and also being totally unrealistic), and I respect that some really enjoy it.

Bayonetta being sexy isn't actually that big of a deal though, I think it could work. However it kinda bothers me that she's a witch with the goal of killing angels (though I'm not sure how deep the anti-religious theme extends in the game). More than anything else, it very much rubs me the wrong way to think that kids playing Smash shouldn't feel safe to explore all the games represented in it. One of my favorite things about the series as a kid was that I played Smash, learned some new characters and franchises, then went and played all of those with excitement. I kinda get the same feeling with Snake nowadays too; MGS 1 didn't seem bad, but from what I've heard about MGS V, it's supposed to be pretty realistic and somewhat disturbing at times? Maybe I just overinterpreted headlines.
 
We aren't getting anything Bayonetta related for Smash because she would have certainly showed up in the ESRB leak due to... you know. Unless Candy Kong is more inappropriate than Bayonetta.

Candy Kong is inappropriate for existence.

But yeah, Bayo probably would've been front and center for ESRB.
 
Lol. How would the topic even come up? What kid is going to look at birdo and say 'mom why is that man pink and shooting eggs out of his mouth? Why is he pretending to be a girl?'

No parent is going to say 'now... before you play smash... there's something you need to know... about birdo. You see, in the japanese instruction manual, it says it's a he, so that led fans to speculate about birdo being a transexual. This was further proven in the japan-only game captain rainbow, where there is a quest to prove that birdo is a woman. In that quest...'

Like what?

I have no idea. Maybe they thought the trophy would reference it and cause questions?
They were pretty crazy. I felt bad for the kids, tbh.
 
Saki is already in though. So wish granted?
Oh, you know what I mean.
It would be beyond idiotic if I ever have to have a conversation about whether Smash Bros. is appropriate to share with children. That's generally the great thing about Nintendo; I don't have to think about it if kids show up, I can just offer them to play with me.
You should play more Fire Emblem. Particularly 4.
 
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