IntelliHeath
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Advance Wars Assist Trophy confirmed to returned. 
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition
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I have to agree with others in that I get and respect the purpose of dash dancing (footsies are nothing new to fighting games) but it looks STUPID. It's the type of "mechanic" that either should be further and naturally implemented in the game (I'm not sure how you'd do that in the context of Smash since you need to be able to switch directions unlike other fighting games but someone smarter than I can figure that out) or removed.
It reminds me a lot of the "bobbin n' weavin" you see going on in a lot of high level Tekken (Tekken 6 at least) matches. It looks alien.
It reminds me a lot of the "bobbin n' weavin" you see going on in a lot of high level Tekken (Tekken 6 at least) matches. It looks alien.
Beelzebufo
Banned
I believe both have been confirmed in PotDs.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Advance Wars Assist Trophy confirmed to returned.
I do wish that they would have updated it with a CO in the background, if only to show that they acknowledge the value of the series based on its recent titles.
Advance Wars Assist Trophy confirmed to returned.
I desire Jeff AT confirmation.
Red Arremer
Member
Anything you can check, especially confirming any and all alt colors would be absolutely fantastic.
superNESjoe
Member
So I assume we've learned that the demo is a unique final build and not the actual retail cart, right? So we can't anticipate any unannounced characters accidentally getting unlocked.
HypnoDarkrai
Member
Good enough for me.
Not probably... they are mega evolutions, it was in the Greninja trailer and it was explained in a POTD. The question is what powers do they give them.
People at E3 overreacting like ten years old to a build far from being final because it's not Melee? Shocking.
I wish, Smash 64 is best Smash as far as I'm concerned.
You nailed it.
Second unlockable assist to be revealed, which is also no more unlockable. Still no Isaac. I still have a glimmer of hope.Advance Wars Assist Trophy confirmed to returned.
This is one of the things that annoys me, instead of making a mechanic that has a lot of uses and implications for the game more natural by giving it a specific animation, they just straight up remove it from the game.
Why not make it so it has a frame window for inputting the opposite direction rather than letting you do it on frame one so that you can't do it on the spot, then add a specific "quick turn" animation to make it look even smoother?
That way it doesn't look as weird because you aren't instantly turning on the spot and you still get the uses of it, dash dancing on the spot is pretty useless anyway, you need to get some distance out of it for it to be good.
I just hate it when they completely remove things that add to the game instead of just implementing them better.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Wolf deconfirm is pretty interesting.
Karsticles
Member
What leak lists does the Wolf disconfirm break?
1) Whether Samus bombs (down + B) explode on contact.
2) How far Palutena Auto-Reticle (neutral B?) Tracks and fires.
3) Any info at all about Palutena's reflect, like how long it lasts, whether she can have multiples on the screen at once, how tall it is, whether she can attack through it, whether she can move through it, whether opponents can attack through it, and whether it can be rolled through. It is a lot, but all easily testable.
Actually, I thought of more:
1) Whether Samus bombs (down + B) explode on contact.
2) How far Palutena Auto-Reticle (neutral B?) Tracks and fires.
3) Any info at all about Palutena's reflect, like how long it lasts, whether she can have multiples on the screen at once, how tall it is, whether she can attack through it, whether she can move through it, whether opponents can attack through it, and whether it can be rolled through. It is a lot, but all easily testable.
HypnoDarkrai
Member
It's just... this post made me uncertain. V_V
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=128686736&postcount=6737
Don't worry, it was confirmed in a POTD, that guy must've missed it. I hope it's something more than just a stat boost (some new attack or something)
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It's not really a deconfirm or anything. Wolf can still be in or not, the color palette has nothing to do with it. Or are you gonna tell me Luigi and Wario are cut too?
Well I didn't expect her to. I just want to know if it is just Orange Peach like Brawl or Daisy Peach like Melee (minus skin colour change as that's been retconned post Melee)The dream is dead.
Karsticles
Member
Metaknight is definitely cut.
HypnoDarkrai
Member
Thanks.
It would be kind of lame to just give them a Warioesque FS. I hope they get new moves. i.e Megazard X gets a Dragon Type Move.
I said this many times, but I really love Smash Bros. Fans
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Baron von Loathsome
Member
Fox had a Wolf-esque costume in Brawl as well. Or is this one more Wolf-esque?
SquiddyCracker
Banned
I mean, the wolf eyepatch is pretty damning I'd say, but sure.
No one should listen to any leak lists except for the Ninka/Vaanrose ones posted on Smashboards. That has been 100% accurate, although I think Ninka said that Mario and Charizard had "costumes" though that has yet to be proven.
I'm surprised no one tried Sheik. Keeping that Impa Sheik dream alive.
All of fox's brawl alts were brown/one dark brown. In 4 he has a gray fur recolor.
Darn error...
superNESjoe
Member
On a scale of one-to-wolf, exactly how Wolf-esque was it?
NeonZ
Member
The Wario color doesn't change Mario's nose color. This Wolf color seems to change Fox's fur and scouter.
It wasn't very Wolf-esque, just a "Dark Fox" of sorts. It had darker brown fur, rather than gray fur, although I remember it being described as Wolf-like before Brawl's launch. If the new skin actually has gray fur, it's much more Wolf-like than that one though.
http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Palette_swap_(SSBB)#Fox
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
You do know that Fox has a "scouter" thing too right?
As it should be, it's a Wolf reference. It'd be damning if it is half-assed.
Just saw CPP disconfirmed...
WHAT THE FUCK NINTENDO?!
That's ridiculous and unfair on all levels. Now people will have hardware advantages too?
Oh fuck off Nintendo, you cheeky shits. You should have told us this day one so people don't go out and buy a fucking obselete piece of shit to play their damn games.
Truly bummed out by this. Sure, + and A is more satisfying and more "tactical" but that's a massive middle finger to those with a CPP. Is this a Sakurai doing or a Nintendo doing? BS.
WHAT THE FUCK NINTENDO?!
That's ridiculous and unfair on all levels. Now people will have hardware advantages too?
Oh fuck off Nintendo, you cheeky shits. You should have told us this day one so people don't go out and buy a fucking obselete piece of shit to play their damn games.
Truly bummed out by this. Sure, + and A is more satisfying and more "tactical" but that's a massive middle finger to those with a CPP. Is this a Sakurai doing or a Nintendo doing? BS.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Is there any visual confirmation of some of the more exciting rumored costume changes? Hearing a lot about Fierce Deity, Fire Peach, and Black and Purple Yoshis. Also Little Mac having sixteen costumes.
As of now nope due to the strict no video/pictures thing. Really wanna see peach's black dress...
Fierce Diety Link isn't even a model swap apparently, it's like the Skyward Sword costume - painted over the normal model.
Could look good, could look awful.
So glad you feel this way. People seem to get tunnel vision when it comes to anything other than Melee. I went to a party tonight where both melee and pm were available. Some people were legit bothered by the mere suggestion of playing something other than melee. I love the game but it had come to represent the worst part of the fanbase IMO. The group that reveres a two gen old game that, while excellent, has become very narrow in the scope of its metagame. It seems like a lot of simple balancing changes in Sm4sh are being perceived as unholy mutations of a magically perfect formula rather than the intentional balancing shifts they are meant to be. It's depressing seeing a fanbase limit itself so much just through tradition. The negativity is really disappointing but I really don't know what I expected.
Hardware advantage? That's like complaining about people using C-stick in general. You can do anything anyone with a new 3DS can do.
I'm an avid C-sticker, but I'm not going to feel handicapped without it. It will take some adjustment, but I think I can fair well considering most people will probably not have an N3DS for a while.
I'm an avid C-sticker, but I'm not going to feel handicapped without it. It will take some adjustment, but I think I can fair well considering most people will probably not have an N3DS for a while.
Nice pic, lol but it's going to be unfair when JP players are pulling fast smashes until others in the West can.
I have no intention to get a N3DS either.
Oh well, fuck it. Better I know now than later. Probably gonna trash the CPP now.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The fact that you can't use the CCP but the N3DS can is really scummy. However it doesn't really give that much advantage.
Eh, it kinda does for spaced aerials/instant smashes/DACUS/Any shenanigans that come from B-Sticking. The ability to use a C-stick is a straight-up advantage, especially in the higher tiers of play.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Plus even if it didn't, I'd be pissed if I bought a CPP, because it's kinda useless haha.
Made a GIF. Game runs at 60 FPS. YouTube video is 30 FPS.
Edit: Fullspeed
Wow. This is worse than Brawl. We'll have to see if this turns out to be an issue. Definitely doesn't look good.
What kills me though is the "feedback" requested by NoA, which was clearly a PR stunt. Landing lag was undoubtedly the #1 issue people had with the game back at E3. Yet, here we are, with aerial landing lag that has actually been increased for many moves.
Which will be on WiiU anyways, so missing CPP doesn't really change anything
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Wow, it's like you didn't read the write up of the person who played the game and just quoted that post.
High tiers probably, but in casual play? Not really.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Based on impressions, it's not a problem. Apparently each character has one or two moves with a lot of lag (the knee), but the rest barely have any. It's just something you need to work around for those specific moves. No need to get upset right now when the people giving impressions say it's not that bad
The reality is, once the Wii U version comes out, I think a lot of people will move to that version for online/local play and C-sticking won't even matter because everyone can do it. Though the 3DS version will undoubtedly sell better so it's not like the 3DS online will be completely vacant, but I can see most NA players at least moving to Wii U and only breaking out the 3DS when traveling.
I know it's not exactly something that will matter for tournaments or whatever, but if you're using the 3DS as your serious version like SuperSah will probably be doing, he'll have to deal with having a bad version of already bad controls whereas he could be playing against someone with an automatic advantage due to the new controls.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Also we're not sure yet if this will have those stuff from Brawl (i.e. DACUS).
It's going to be incredibly interesting to assess how similar the 3DS and Wii U versions actually are to each other. Presumably, they should be identical in terms of movement, mechanics, etc, but you never know. Players will spend hundreds of hours playing the 3DS version prior to the release of the Wii U version. Then, the Wii U version will be released, and people will be playing on 40"+ HDTVs, on a much more powerful system, and with a controller they're used to. I wouldn't be surprised if small discrepancies between the two versions are discovered.