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[Etnos]

I've been watching a stream for about 30 minutes and all I've seen them do is camp behind pillars and shoot a Megatron-looking thing in the dick. Them arguing has been pretty entertaining though.

Yeah watching the same streamer house twitch.... Is this the superior game we are expecting after level 20!? Destiny raids: hide behind a wall, pop up a couple of shots to a giant dude for 3 hours, BOOOM! MAGIC!

They are missing the point with these raids, WOW raids are fun because there are good game design elements to it, phases, aoe, puzzles, classes actually have to interact etc etc..

Instead Destiny raids seem just like brain dead marathon of repetitive hide and shoot

 

[Schryver]

So Destiny, one of the biggest games this year, shouldn't have a matchmaking mode for casuals to experience the Raid?

I've got loads of friends who rarely buy games but have bought Destiny and would love to give the Raids a go, but probably never will because of zero matchmaking.

Sorry WOW is pretty hardcore, Destiny isn't and is catered to all console players, casuals included.

Not saying they shouldn't add it just explaining what WoW has. Although if they do add it they probably need to be careful about balancing the loot quality so that people don't get mad because the easy-mode raid has gear that makes the normal mode not entirely worth it

 

[LyleLanley]

Bungie is just looking out for the 5% of destiny players that will raid. They want it to remain exclusive to them.

That's pretty shitty for the other 95% of people who bought the game then.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

What I'm seeing over and over again in the streams is that the encounters just start on their own. There is no concept of 'pulling' the boss to begin the fights, no window longer than 3 seconds to get behind cover or otherwise position and use preparatory abilities. Even as the teams streaming try to replace players, they just wipe over and over again shorthanded until they can equip a full squad for real attempts. There's just no downtime to breathe and collect yourself, unless you count going afk and getting destroyed over and over again during the respawn cycles as downtime.

Is this common in Destiny?

 

[Lostconfused]

What I haven't seen anyone mention yet are the loot drops.

What did the bosses drop, what are the loot tables like.

 

[Nasbin]

I was pretty down on Destiny but I've found a whole new appreciation for it after reading through this thread. The amount of crybaby whining is hilarious, so many kids who never played pre-Wrath WoW up in here. Everyone clamoring for Bungie to hold their hands and arrange parties for them have missed the point so hard its ridiculous, it'd be like demanding matchmaking back when BWL came out so you could watch pubbies with no coordination wipe on Razorgore and rage quit.

Major respect for the devs at Bungie who have some nostalgia for when raids were actually difficult and couldn't be slept walk through with LFR. Vault won't take as long to clear as 40 man Naxx or anything but it's a breath of fresh air regardless.

 

[TheCanisDirus]

You can't leave casual fans with nothing to do at level 26. The age-old MMO mistake of making content that only 10% of the playerbase will ever experience should not be repeated.

Blizzard learned and adjusted. Hopefully Bungie will too.

And this is what Bungie is calling the "real game" (or something like that)... game doesn't start until 20... i wish the reviewers would wait until end game to review etc. etc. So if logic serves... only a small percent of the population will even get to "play the real Destiny". Seems legit.

 

[Zombie James]

These Raid achievements/tropihies..

Complete a Raid
Complete a Raid with a fireteam of your clan
Complete a Raid on hard
Complete a Raid without anyone dying

Once you hit level 35, the game completely changes.

 

[Izayoi]

My god, this thread is hilarious. Destiny really is babby's first MMO for some people, it seems. Complaining about no matchmaking for a raid? This is the cancer killing MMO endgame.

Doing it with randoms is going to be completely impossible, especially right now when everyone is under-geared and under-leveled.

I'm not shocked people want everything handed to them on a silver platter, though. Seems to be pretty par for the course in terms in MMO player mindset nowadays. "Waaaahhhh, it's too hard. It takes too much time and dedication! I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS"

There are plenty of resources for finding players who want to raid, whether it be on here (don't we have over a thousand people in the various GAF guilds?), Reddit, 4chan, or on the official forums. Or you could just invite random people in the Tower and get to know them - this worked great for me in the beta, and I met a lot of really cool people.

Grow the fuck up and get over it. Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

 

[Schryver]

I was pretty down on Destiny but I've found a whole new appreciation for it after reading through this thread. The amount of crybaby whining is hilarious, so many kids who never played pre-Wrath WoW up in here. Everyone clamoring for Bungie to hold their hands and arrange parties for them have missed the point so hard its ridiculous, it'd be like demanding matchmaking back when BWL came out so you could watch pubbies with no coordination wipe on Razorgore and rage quit.

Major respect for the devs at Bungie who have some nostalgia for when raids were actually difficult and couldn't be slept walk through with LFR. Vault won't take as long to clear as 40 man Naxx or anything but it's a breath of fresh air regardless.

/salute

 

[Doctoglethorpe]

I've got loads of friends who rarely buy games but have bought Destiny and would love to give the Raids a go, but probably never will because of zero matchmaking.

If you've got loads of friends who want to play it, why do you need matchmaking? There's an invite button.

 

[nubbe]

Did destiny?

The Traveler, we tell nightmares to the children

or something

 

[Waylon Drums]

My god, this thread is hilarious. Destiny really is babby's first MMO for some people, it seems. Complaining about no matchmaking for a raid? This is the cancer killing MMO endgame.

Doing it with randoms is going to be completely impossible, especially right now when everyone is under-geared and under-leveled.

I'm not shocked people want everything handed to them on a silver platter, though. Seems to be pretty par for the course in terms in MMO player mindset nowadays. "Waaaahhhh, it's too hard. It takes too much time and dedication! I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS"

There are plenty of resources for finding players who want to raid, whether it be on here (don't we have over a thousand people in the various GAF guilds?), Reddit, 4chan, or on the official forums. Or you could just invite random people in the Tower and get to know them - this worked great for me in the beta, and I met a lot of really cool people.

Grow the fuck up and get over it. Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

This is just a game, love. People want to have fun. If you have a different idea of fun, that's okay too.

 

[PhatSaqs]

My god, this thread is hilarious. Destiny really is babby's first MMO for some people, it seems. Complaining about no matchmaking for a raid? This is the cancer killing MMO endgame.

Doing it with randoms is going to be completely impossible, especially right now when everyone is under-geared and under-leveled.

I'm not shocked people want everything handed to them on a silver platter, though. Seems to be pretty par for the course in terms in MMO player mindset nowadays. "Waaaahhhh, it's too hard. It takes too much time and dedication! I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS"

There are plenty of resources for finding players who want to raid, whether it be on here (don't we have over a thousand people in the various GAF guilds?), Reddit, 4chan, or on the official forums. Or you could just invite random people in the Tower and get to know them - this worked great for me in the beta, and I met a lot of really cool people.

Grow the fuck up and get over it. Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

lol great post.

 

[rac]

Ya this fight is a total gear check. There are a few "mechanics" but nothing much.

Well at least there are some mechanics to make the boss fun. Every other boss has a boring pattern of shoot/spawn adds.

Its unfortunate there aren't more bosses in Destiny as interesting as this one.

 

[QaaQer]

My god, this thread is hilarious. Destiny really is babby's first MMO for some people, it seems. Complaining about no matchmaking for a raid? This is the cancer killing MMO endgame.

Doing it with randoms is going to be completely impossible, especially right now when everyone is under-geared and under-leveled.

I'm not shocked people want everything handed to them on a silver platter, though. Seems to be pretty par for the course in terms in MMO player mindset nowadays. "Waaaahhhh, it's too hard. It takes too much time and dedication! I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS"

There are plenty of resources for finding players who want to raid, whether it be on here (don't we have over a thousand people in the various GAF guilds?), Reddit, 4chan, or on the official forums. Or you could just invite random people in the Tower and get to know them - this worked great for me in the beta, and I met a lot of really cool people.

Grow the fuck up and get over it. Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

dude takes his gaming seriously.

 

[Norns]

My god, this thread is hilarious. Destiny really is babby's first MMO for some people, it seems. Complaining about no matchmaking for a raid? This is the cancer killing MMO endgame.

Doing it with randoms is going to be completely impossible, especially right now when everyone is under-geared and under-leveled.

I'm not shocked people want everything handed to them on a silver platter, though. Seems to be pretty par for the course in terms in MMO player mindset nowadays. "Waaaahhhh, it's too hard. It takes too much time and dedication! I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS"

There are plenty of resources for finding players who want to raid, whether it be on here (don't we have over a thousand people in the various GAF guilds?), Reddit, 4chan, or on the official forums. Or you could just invite random people in the Tower and get to know them - this worked great for me in the beta, and I met a lot of really cool people.

Grow the fuck up and get over it. Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

Bravo good sir.

 

[kittens]

I want to get a raid group going at 7:30 PM Pacific tonight on XB1. PM if you're interested!

 

[Duxxy3]

Watching the stream, and I don't see how this would appeal to your average FPS player.

This really is targeted at MMO players that just happen to be playing Destiny.

 

[Nibiru]

I was pretty down on Destiny but I've found a whole new appreciation for it after reading through this thread. The amount of crybaby whining is hilarious, so many kids who never played pre-Wrath WoW up in here. Everyone clamoring for Bungie to hold their hands and arrange parties for them have missed the point so hard its ridiculous, it'd be like demanding matchmaking back when BWL came out so you could watch pubbies with no coordination wipe on Razorgore and rage quit.

Major respect for the devs at Bungie who have some nostalgia for when raids were actually difficult and couldn't be slept walk through with LFR. Vault won't take as long to clear as 40 man Naxx or anything but it's a breath of fresh air regardless.

This isn't fair. Most of the complaints are about the bad communication systems making it hard in game to form groups. Even early WoW had general chat and lfg channels. Imo that should be enough. No need for an lfr system.

 

[TheCanisDirus]

My god, this thread is hilarious. Destiny really is babby's first MMO for some people, it seems. Complaining about no matchmaking for a raid? This is the cancer killing MMO endgame.

Doing it with randoms is going to be completely impossible, especially right now when everyone is under-geared and under-leveled.

I'm not shocked people want everything handed to them on a silver platter, though. Seems to be pretty par for the course in terms in MMO player mindset nowadays. "Waaaahhhh, it's too hard. It takes too much time and dedication! I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS"

There are plenty of resources for finding players who want to raid, whether it be on here (don't we have over a thousand people in the various GAF guilds?), Reddit, 4chan, or on the official forums. Or you could just invite random people in the Tower and get to know them - this worked great for me in the beta, and I met a lot of really cool people.

Grow the fuck up and get over it. Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

MMO? Destiny isn't an MMO. I don't even think the same crowd would necessarily play Destiny. So yes, it's likely many people's first "MMO-esq" experience. The content being difficult isn't what the argument is about.

 

[Altima]

Wow, I come here and expect to see people discuss about encounter in the raid..........

 

[atr0cious]

Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

Besides completely downplaying the differences inherit in the UI of any pc game, the structure of destiny doesn't allow for this to happen.

 

[Tranqueris]

Yup, I just want to experience the content to some degree. I don't care about a super hardcore experience.

Yeah I keep seeing a few people saying, randoms are gonna ruin it for you! Well the flip side of that is being barred from content in a game that repeats the very little content there is in it already. Seriously It's like Bungie is constantly trying to send me a message every time I reach a new level.

"Oh cool you reached level 22, here's a new weekly mission that doesn't have matchmaking, sure you can easily solo it with enough time, but here, enjoy this inconvenience. Oh wow you reached level 26? here's a level 28 weekly mission that also doesn't have matchmaking, and the raid doesn't have it either, really level 26 is totally good enough, you can move on to other games now, have you seen that new Shadow of Mordor game? Wow!"

 

[ffejeromdiks]

I find it immensely annoying and sad when people these days discount other people opinions because they are different than their own.

People are capable of having their own opinions on games without it being a regurgitation of others' opinions. Their view of the game is no more valid, correct, or important than your own, and you are doing a disservice to yourself by treating them as such.

I was talking about the people who have admitted to not even playing the game for themselves, but formed 'their opinions' on it by merely watching streams and then precede to parrot the streamer in question. Sorry but yeah, I'd say my opinion is more valid than someone who hasn't even played it.

There's hundreds of those kind of posts in the OT.

 

[staticneuron]

If the clan roster would show up in game, It would be far easier to do this raid.

I don't know why this is not implemented/ In game options to find and play with clan members or invite strangers to a clan or request to join theirs.

 

[ultron87]

I was pretty down on Destiny but I've found a whole new appreciation for it after reading through this thread. The amount of crybaby whining is hilarious, so many kids who never played pre-Wrath WoW up in here. Everyone clamoring for Bungie to hold their hands and arrange parties for them have missed the point so hard its ridiculous, it'd be like demanding matchmaking back when BWL came out so you could watch pubbies with no coordination wipe on Razorgore and rage quit.

Major respect for the devs at Bungie who have some nostalgia for when raids were actually difficult and couldn't be slept walk through with LFR. Vault won't take as long to clear as 40 man Naxx or anything but it's a breath of fresh air regardless.

WoW always had ways to make a party in the game. You could crazy stuff (by Destiny standards) like talk to people you weren't friends with, advertise the fact that you were LFG for a specific instance, and see and invite your guild members in game!

 

[Netherscourge]

How is that different from other MMO bosses, or bosses in general, they have huge health pools for the last 30 years!

Well, other MOs/MMOs feature mechanics like Crowd Control, Healing, Tanking, Maneuvering, Removing Debuffs, Countering, Interrupting, etc...

From what I've seen, Destiny has "Shoot, Dodge, Shoot, Dodge, Shoot, Dodge, etc.."

But, that was just from Beta gameplay and streams I've seen so far.

 

[Schryver]

MMO? Destiny isn't an MMO. I don't even think the same crowd would necessarily play Destiny. So yes, it's likely many people's first "MMO-esq" experience. The content being difficult isn't what the argument is about.

Well it's trying quite hard to be an MMO and when you have something called raids then its getting pretty close imo

 

[Etnos]

I was pretty down on Destiny but I've found a whole new appreciation for it after reading through this thread. The amount of crybaby whining is hilarious, so many kids who never played pre-Wrath WoW up in here. Everyone clamoring for Bungie to hold their hands and arrange parties for them have missed the point so hard its ridiculous, it'd be like demanding matchmaking back when BWL came out so you could watch pubbies with no coordination wipe on Razorgore and rage quit.

Major respect for the devs at Bungie who have some nostalgia for when raids were actually difficult and couldn't be slept walk through with LFR. Vault won't take as long to clear as 40 man Naxx or anything but it's a breath of fresh air regardless.

Or maybe you know... people with job, family, a life... dam those crybabys, Fools paid $60 for a videogame now they want to experience the content without giving up on real life, WTF man!?

BTW I also been playing WOW since Vanilla days, There is no nostalgia... raid design was dumb back then, even blizzard said so. When you have only a small percent of your community experiencing the content you create, you know you have a problem.

 

[Pritchardo]

hmmm dont think i will be able to do these raids, only have a couple of friends who own it and i havnt been impressed with it up to now and i might trade it in and preorder FH2 after plying the demo.

 

[Zephyrus]

Just added this to OP

If you are struggling to get to lvl 26:

From Reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/2ght8q/i_know_some_people_here_are_still_stuck_on_lvl_20/

Destiny - "BEST LEGENDARY ENGRAM FARMING GUIDE" | "Destiny Skywatch Engram Farming Location"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBLKzesxkKU

I spent 1 hour there and I got 4 rares and a bunch of worthless uncommons.
A guy comes, joins my fireteam and in the first wave gets a legendary.

Instant ragequit by me, fuck this game.

 

[pedrothelion]

Yeah watching the same streamer house twitch.... Is this the superior game we are expecting after level 20!? Destiny raids: hide behind a wall, pop up a couple of shots to a giant dude for 3 hours, BOOOM! MAGIC!

They are missing the point with these raids, WOW raids are fun because there are good game design elements to it, phases, aoe, puzzles, classes actually have to interact etc etc..

Instead Destiny raids seem just like brain dead marathon of repetitive hide and shoot

I've been watching this video and the guy jumping all over the place and definitely not hiding behind pillars. There appears to some kind of game play mechanic involving rituals and shooting balls of light.

 

[CitizenCope]

I've been watching a stream for about 30 minutes and all I've seen them do is camp behind pillars and shoot a Megatron-looking thing in the dick. Them arguing has been pretty entertaining though.

I've been watching it off and on for about 5 hours now. Man one of them is a complete asshole. Looks hard/annoying enough without someone calling out angrily "Who died?".

 

[nubbe]

Well it's trying quite hard to be an MMO and when you have something called raids then its getting pretty close imo

Borderlands 2 has raids too, guess it's MMO.. well. yes it is

 

[Bollocks]

So no one completed the raid yet?

 

[marianitten]

My god, this thread is hilarious. Destiny really is babby's first MMO for some people, it seems. Complaining about no matchmaking for a raid? This is the cancer killing MMO endgame.

Yeah.. no.

Doing it with randoms is going to be completely impossible, especially right now when everyone is under-geared and under-leveled.

I'm not shocked people want everything handed to them on a silver platter, though. Seems to be pretty par for the course in terms in MMO player mindset nowadays. "Waaaahhhh, it's too hard. It takes too much time and dedication! I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS"

I have friends, IRL. Sadly any of them have a PS4. And I won't call a random dude who plays well destiny in my "friend list" a Friend. Is just a dude that like to play videogames just like me.

There are plenty of resources for finding players who want to raid, whether it be on here (don't we have over a thousand people in the various GAF guilds?), Reddit, 4chan, or on the official forums. Or you could just invite random people in the Tower and get to know them - this worked great for me in the beta, and I met a lot of really cool people.

Hillarious.

Grow the fuck up and get over it. Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

THIS is the CANCER killing the MMO endgame. Nobody is asking for dumbed down content. Raids should be hard, really hard. Is has nothing to do with Matchmaking. Patronizing condescending players that think they're better because its list of virtual friends is greater than the other people. Are they afraid that a group of randoms achieve the same as them?

 

[TheCanisDirus]

Well it's trying quite hard to be an MMO and when you have something called raids then its getting pretty close imo

No i understand.... it's identity crisis is a major problem. You have this huge mass marketed blockbuster that's trying to appeal to all types with a sparse offering of everything under the sun, in a confusing mess of a presentation... and you then tell the world that the game doesnt really being until post level cap and that nobody should judge the game until you get there and spend some time in it. Yet to achieve this you'd have to be among the most hardcore of your target population so not at all indicative of the majority. Again, likely some ~5%.

 

[MiamiWesker]

11pages is a lot to go through. Is there an impressions post. It doesnt even have to be first hand impressions, just from someone watching.

What is the level design like. What are the encounters like. Are the bosses the same kind of bosses from the main game. What exactly makes it so tough? etc?

 

[Wanderer5]

That's pretty shitty for the other 95% of people who bought the game then.

Not really when it just one small part of the game.*roll eyes*

 

[Timmay]

My god, this thread is hilarious. Destiny really is babby's first MMO for some people, it seems. Complaining about no matchmaking for a raid? This is the cancer killing MMO endgame.

Doing it with randoms is going to be completely impossible, especially right now when everyone is under-geared and under-leveled.

I'm not shocked people want everything handed to them on a silver platter, though. Seems to be pretty par for the course in terms in MMO player mindset nowadays. "Waaaahhhh, it's too hard. It takes too much time and dedication! I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS"

There are plenty of resources for finding players who want to raid, whether it be on here (don't we have over a thousand people in the various GAF guilds?), Reddit, 4chan, or on the official forums. Or you could just invite random people in the Tower and get to know them - this worked great for me in the beta, and I met a lot of really cool people.

Grow the fuck up and get over it. Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

2005's outdated mechanics just called, they said 'Hi' and agreed with your horrible argument.

 

[Moofers]

My god, this thread is hilarious. Destiny really is babby's first MMO for some people, it seems. Complaining about no matchmaking for a raid? This is the cancer killing MMO endgame.

Doing it with randoms is going to be completely impossible, especially right now when everyone is under-geared and under-leveled.

I'm not shocked people want everything handed to them on a silver platter, though. Seems to be pretty par for the course in terms in MMO player mindset nowadays. "Waaaahhhh, it's too hard. It takes too much time and dedication! I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS"

There are plenty of resources for finding players who want to raid, whether it be on here (don't we have over a thousand people in the various GAF guilds?), Reddit, 4chan, or on the official forums. Or you could just invite random people in the Tower and get to know them - this worked great for me in the beta, and I met a lot of really cool people.

Grow the fuck up and get over it. Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

Nobody wants it toned down, they just want to be able to play it when its convenient for them to do so. Not everyone games for 30+ hours a week and can just hook up for a game anytime. You want me to plunk down $60 on your game, knowing full well that there are intentional holes left to be plugged with multiple $20 expansions? Well then don't lock me out of content. Let me get wiped, I don't fucking care. I'd rather have the chance to try it out and get wiped than not be able to do it at all because I didn't take the time to arrange a scheduled shindig with people I don't even know because I already can't do that with my actual friends.

Also, fuckin LOL at meeting up with people from your suggested forums. GAF is the only one I'd bother with and like I pointed out earlier, that's not a slam dunk sure thing. So again, that's where matchmaking would actually be useful.

 

[Etnos]

Well it's trying quite hard to be an MMO and when you have something called raids then its getting pretty close imo

Destiny gameplay has as much of an MMO, as it's story has of Game of Thrones, meaning they shared some silly terminology and thematic elements, but in reality the comparison is just superficial.

 

[Alienous]

So, what's wrong with a scenario like the following?

Creating a lobby called 'Destiny Raid #1 / Looking for lvl 26 Titans / Mic required'
Having the option to kick players out of your lobby.
Being able to speak to other players who want to partake in a raid whilst remaining in-game.
"Hey, I'm a Titan, I think I can help out"
"Ok, cool, have you completed it before?"
"Nah"
"Alright, I have a strategy, just follow my lead. It might take a while, is that cool with you?"
"Yeah, ok."
"Cool"

The reality is people will end up doing raids with 'randoms', unless they actually know 5 other people playing Destiny at the same time as them who want to do a Raid. Bungie have just made the process more clunky than necessary.

 

[Fee]

Ya this fight is a total gear check. There are a few "mechanics" but nothing much.

I think it's unfair to call the fight a pure gear check, it feels like more or a raid coordination check to me. Sure the enrage timer is tight, but is the shield being brought down as often as possible, and when is it down are all 5 people in a position to be hitting the boss in his weak point? Also while the shield was up did people kill enough trash to refill their ammo for secondary weapons?

On a side tangent, I dont understand why so many people call the bosses in this game bullet sponges. I feel like they are doing something wrong that lead them to this conclusion. Every mob has a weak point where you can deal triple damage to him, combine that with already high damage of the sniper rifle and the occasional rocket and most the bosses go down pretty fast. If you are just firing at baddies not even attempting to hit precision shots let alone a large percentage of them, that's only way I could see the bosses being considered bulletesponges,

 

[Zakalwe]

I spent 1 hour there and I got 4 rares and a bunch of worthless uncommons.
A guy comes, joins my fireteam and in the first wave gets a legendary.

Instant ragequit by me, fuck this game.

Ever play a game with random drops before?

Destiny's loot system needs work, sure, but as long as it stays random this is going to happen sometimes.

 

[ultron87]

11pages is a lot to go through. Is there an impressions post. It doesnt even have to be first hand impressions, just from someone watching.

What is the level design like. What are the encounters like. Are the bosses the same kind of bosses from the main game. What exactly makes it so tough? etc?

The boss I watched seems to have some more mechanics associated with it and sub objectives within the fight instead of just shooting the guy and not dying. There are debuffs that need to be cleansed and half the party gets teleported to a different zone where they need to kill some specific enemies while the other half is activating a specific portal to get them out. So basically more mechanics than approximately every boss in the Strikes combined.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

All I ask is more communication options in game. Even if it's just as simple as flagging yourself as LFR, LFS, or LFF and having the quest icon with those initials in them pop over your head.

 

[Hero Prinny]

I spent 1 hour there and I got 4 rares and a bunch of worthless uncommons.
A guy comes, joins my fireteam and in the first wave gets a legendary.

Instant ragequit by me, fuck this game.

I was there for an hour and everything I got was useless for me. For reference im lvl21. I just stopped, it was just a waste of time. Id rather get exp and the game have a hardcap on lvl30 instead of what we got now.

 

[Rafterman]

Grow the fuck up and get over it. Hard content should be hard, not dumbed down so any old idiot who lazed their way to 26 can complete it in one go.

How about you grow the fuck up and learn how to make your point without being a total asshat?

And FYI no one "lazes" their way to 26. Jesus Christ it's like you've never played the fucking game.