Abusing company info to hit on someone
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TheChocolateWar
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A judge would laugh me out of court for a valid invasion of privacy tort case? No, no they would not. If they did, I would have that judge off the bench and their bar license immediately.
I can has both?
You're living in a fantasy world. No you wouldn't. You obviously have no idea how hard it is to get a judge off the bench and to be disbarred. lol
You're a joke. How's it feel to pretend like you actually have the power to do something you'll never do? Must be intoxicating. Oculus Rift is going to work wonders on you.
TheChocolateWar
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Not really, I passed the MPRE with a 125 and know the judicial code of ethics better than the vast majority of this board. It would be a violation of judicial ethics to dismiss a case that has valid merit merely because they personally disagree with it.
This happened to my fiance at a department store.
It creeped her out getting a random text out of nowhere from a stranger asking her if she remembered him. She just blocked his number and moved on, but she was taken aback by it.
If it's not creepy to you, that's fine, but people going "omg just take it as a compliment" shouldn't speak for everyone.
It creeped her out getting a random text out of nowhere from a stranger asking her if she remembered him. She just blocked his number and moved on, but she was taken aback by it.
If it's not creepy to you, that's fine, but people going "omg just take it as a compliment" shouldn't speak for everyone.
Josh with a J
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Some babies in here.
Let it gooooooooooo
Let it gooooooooooo
entremet
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This is probably the most reasonable post. It does comes off as thirsty.
I admit that you got me at first, but you just took your trolling into way too obvious territory with that post. You have to straddle that line, not completely cross it.
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I totally understand how someone could feel very uncomfortable with this, but I wouldn't sue over it.
Working at a library we have all kinds of info on a person. There are some women that come in and you just wonder if they are single ot not. It would be kinda of awkward to ask that person out while on duty and then get turned out. Then I could just look them up on Facebook to see if they are single or not but I'll not since that goes against our policy.
Meanwhile, in a courtroom in TheChocolateWar's delusional, bullshit-addled mind
If you understand, can you explain? I really don't see what's supposed to be so scary about it. The amount of effort required in jotting down a number that's on screen as you ring someone up is not at all the same as showing up at their house or stalking them around town or some shit. It takes literally zero effort and some people think nothing of it, and is as such not at all indicative of anything seriously wrong with the person doing it.
Really, IMO, you have to be a bit full of yourself to even presume that the person is already like stalker-level obsessed and about to murder you and wear you as a suit. The more humble assumption is that they really don't care that much and just shot off a text to see what would happen.
My fiance didn't think he was a stalker. She wasn't scared. She wasn't feeling threatened. There's various levels of being creeped out or feeling uncomfortable.
Like I said, she just looked at her screen, showed it to me with a weird look on her face, I said "that's weird", and she deleted it and blocked the number. She was a little uncomfortable about it, I could tell, but we moved on. That was it. It's uncomfortable to some people. Some people can laugh about it. Some people have had negative experiences in the past with men and assume the worst. And, of course, everything in between.
I think it's weird to use someone's personal information against their will. I'm not gonna go sue someone over it, though. :lol
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Depends on a person's background. For most people it probably wouldn't register as being creepy, but if you're someone who has been stalked in the past you'll probably be much more sensitive to these types of things. The interaction you had with the person who requested your contact details probably also comes into play. If it's a customer that sends out crazy vibes during your brief interaction, that person suddenly contacting you out of the blue won't be a pleasant surprise.
Lastly, location also matters. Retail is fairly neutral, but a doctor's office would not be as straightforward as there's a more legitimate worry the person had access to more than just your contact details.
SkeptiMism
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Do you think people who are against this are "forever-aloners"?
Geez.
I do think suing the person over this is absolutely ridiculous and sad obviously (I think that shuri might've been sarcastic though), but come on, be reasonable. It is unethical to abuse information that a store has gathered on a customer. That information is personal and there is a contract between the store and the customer that the information is used only for the purposes of the store. It is the responsibility of the store to see that information isn't abused, and if someone abuses it, it's wrong, no excuses.
It is perfectly fine to be creeped out by the idea of someone abusing that information. One person might not be creeped out and that's fine too, but another person might well be. Either way, it's still wrong to abuse that information. You can also imagine how many times that person has done it? Maybe even if there are some other purposes the person or another person has taken that information for.
Your shopping information might not be the biggest thing, but it's still meant to be confidential.
And no, I wouldn't be creeped out by someone doing this, but saying that someone who does think it is creepy "needs to grow the fuck up and join the real world with us adults", comes off as really childish.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I don't think it's being "creeped out too easily" to know a person you don't know doesn't respect your legal or personal boundaries. Knowing a random dude working in a doctor's office had literally every piece of info about my girlfriend and was contacting her through all sorts of mediums was one of the most stressful years of our relationship.
CrocMother
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I feel like the appropriateness of this heavily depends on the interaction he had with her at the store. If there was obvious mutual flirting and interest, then I could see the girl using the information to contact him as OK.
If it was one sided, I would assume that she has issues with boundaries and would not see it as OK.
If it was one sided, I would assume that she has issues with boundaries and would not see it as OK.
It depends on how she acts too though. I mean, what are her mannerisms/behavior? One thing that stories like this fail to convey, is all the social cues that one gives off. If you found her behavior to be off putting or strange (regardless of how cute she is), and she got your number through your work...that kind of puts a different spin on it.
That said, seems like OP was fine with her.
Yeah was just going to say that. I think their interaction (and how he perceived her) really impacts how you would take this sort of thing.
The try hard is a lawyer or some other professional agent in the justice system.
He knows he can exercise legal powers like these even though we don't see this as reasonable.
It certainly was reasonable but I'm flabbergasted by your inference of it remotely being thirsty.
This sounds a bit different (as the interest seemed mutual) but I get what you're saying.
Coffee Dog
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Creepy. I might still roll with it if I was attracted to her, but that's definitely not a good first impression.
entremet
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thirsty, creepy. insert whatever adjective you want.
Sho_Nuff82
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I would never text/call someone without actually asking for their phone number.
That being said, if the girl and I got along well enough, I'd forgive the one transgression. It'd make for a cute "how we met" story. If I wasn't interested, I'd say so. If she persisted after being turned down, I'd tell the store.
That being said, if the girl and I got along well enough, I'd forgive the one transgression. It'd make for a cute "how we met" story. If I wasn't interested, I'd say so. If she persisted after being turned down, I'd tell the store.
voodoojohn
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Everyone you don't already know is a maniac creep and will probably kill you. This is a fact.
FinalStageBoss
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Creepy as fuck tbh, I don't care is she's cute, she's probably crazy.
Deified Data
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I would also probably find it flattering, if a bit creepy, but in general terms I'd say that's a huge abuse of privacy. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable being with someone who thinks that's okay,
SneakyStephan
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Idk, I feel bad for people who get called creepy over something like this.
It can just be innocent or they didn't think about it, it's only one step beyond asking someone you know for the number of their friend if you found them attractive.
Maybe I just have too much empathy, I can put myself in their place and feel bad for them in that situation.
You know that what is described in the OP is the story of some couples who later got married. Just like it is the story of some people who were surprised or uncomfortable with it.
As long as there is no mal intent behind it and the person leaves it at that if they are rejected I don't see any harm in it.
Their boss may disagree of course, but a business looking out for themselves has no bearing on the character of the person in the OP
Anyhow, people sure are eager to label people over a single action.
It can just be innocent or they didn't think about it, it's only one step beyond asking someone you know for the number of their friend if you found them attractive.
Maybe I just have too much empathy, I can put myself in their place and feel bad for them in that situation.
You know that what is described in the OP is the story of some couples who later got married. Just like it is the story of some people who were surprised or uncomfortable with it.
As long as there is no mal intent behind it and the person leaves it at that if they are rejected I don't see any harm in it.
Their boss may disagree of course, but a business looking out for themselves has no bearing on the character of the person in the OP
Anyhow, people sure are eager to label people over a single action.
I don't understand people that think like this, I just can't even fathom it
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vicissitudes
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I'm going to stay out of this fight and just leave this here:
Are you implying Jeanette started a fire?
Are you implying Jeanette started a fire?
Apologies, I should have clarified what I meant. In this case I think it probably is over stepping the boundaries of common decency. If she was interested she should have made it known there and then.
I just feel that so much crap is thrown out there about not approaching people who interest you for fear of 'the creep' label. This is for both men and women. It just shouldn't be a problem for someone to go strike up a conversation with someone and make it known they are interested in pursuing them.
Yeah you have edge cases of people who get hit on constantly. It wears their patience. Or really persistent people (the real creeps). But in general people shouldn't be scared to go out there and just talk to someone and tell them they like them.
Laughing Black
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This is getting too complicated.
When a man really wants a woman, he learns foreplay (phone games and slow approach and all that bs).
You want a man, learn getting to the point. Immediately jump on his penis and do crazy things. Men talk about "shock and awe" like they know what it is. Using woman's powers of reading men's complex minds, your friend should also know what "shock and awe" means to a guy.
This is not a strategy that works vice versa. As OP said, that would be rapey and scary. However, there are 2 standards at work here, I'm afraid.
Women, you complain as if our lack of foreplay is real. Put that theory to the test and see if abandoning foreplay works in your favour.
You're worried you'll look like a slut? Don't. Men invest in longterm solutions to age old problems. If you can get him to make juice, and often, then he's yours for the longterm and it won't be a thing.
Now, the only question your friend has to ask herself is, who does she think she really is? If you want a bold course of action that works, then that's not really the realm of calculation, is it? Calculation and boldness just don't go together.
The alternative is to listen to your heart, find out what he likes, and then craft some perfect meeting. At some point, a princess Leia uniform will be necessary. Intoxicants and mind altering substances will probably seal that particular deal.
Again, I repeat, this only works one way. Try it the other way and go to jail fellas. I'm comfortable with this one way standard just as long as there's nothing illegal going on.
I don't know about most guys, but I suspect most would not mind. Who knows?
When a man really wants a woman, he learns foreplay (phone games and slow approach and all that bs).
You want a man, learn getting to the point. Immediately jump on his penis and do crazy things. Men talk about "shock and awe" like they know what it is. Using woman's powers of reading men's complex minds, your friend should also know what "shock and awe" means to a guy.
This is not a strategy that works vice versa. As OP said, that would be rapey and scary. However, there are 2 standards at work here, I'm afraid.
Women, you complain as if our lack of foreplay is real. Put that theory to the test and see if abandoning foreplay works in your favour.
You're worried you'll look like a slut? Don't. Men invest in longterm solutions to age old problems. If you can get him to make juice, and often, then he's yours for the longterm and it won't be a thing.
Now, the only question your friend has to ask herself is, who does she think she really is? If you want a bold course of action that works, then that's not really the realm of calculation, is it? Calculation and boldness just don't go together.
The alternative is to listen to your heart, find out what he likes, and then craft some perfect meeting. At some point, a princess Leia uniform will be necessary. Intoxicants and mind altering substances will probably seal that particular deal.
Again, I repeat, this only works one way. Try it the other way and go to jail fellas. I'm comfortable with this one way standard just as long as there's nothing illegal going on.
I don't know about most guys, but I suspect most would not mind. Who knows?
I don't think I've ever seen someone brag about his or her MPRE score. I can't fathom an argument where such information would matter (including this one). I'm honestly puzzled as to why you would even remember that score.
Seems like a trivial case, anyway. Few hundred dollars in damages at best. Might crack 4 figures on a good day.
Also, I agree with others that I'd have qualms about getting involved with someone who could so casually pull a move like this.
Kano on the Phone
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Who are you talking to?
The girl in question crossed the line and violated someone's personal boundaries. If that person is ok with it, fine, but she knowingly did something she knew might get her fired and might not be taken well by everyone. Simple.
maquiladora
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"He's still talking to me after I've given him his change....I'm just pretending to listen...why doesn't he just leave...This is the third time this week..."
Laughing Black
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Just giving a guy's perspective to women who want to get guys. Who are you talking to?
Anyway, it's pretty clear from some comments, that some guys will definitely not like being approached by women in such a bold fashion. Choose wisely.
Laughing Black
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Jebus. One phone call from a girl and you'd freak out on them? Make them lose their job because they found you attractive enough to want to talk to you? That's ridiculous.
I don't know about you, but if I'm going to get an unwanted call from a telemarketer or a girl who wants to get to know me more and just chat, then I know which I'd prefer. I can't control who gets my number, that's a given, but it's always nice to hear a friendly voice and speak to a human being as opposed to a robot marketer. Who would you rather make that next call? I don't mean legally, I mean personally.
Life is too much about work already, why make romance subject to corporate rules as well? That's going too far, imo.
Anyway, I'm sure if you have that attitude that you don't like being called randomly by women who are attracted to you, then it will be clear to women around you. You're probably safe?
davepoobond
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I doubt it's an exception, and most likely she is insane.
My number is private for a reason. The only people that call me are the ones I know I can trust.
If he/she wanted to take things farther they should have asked for my number in person, or given me theirs.
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