SwiftDeath
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The 360 sales of Bayonetta in Japan weren't good though so barely maybe almost getting to something under those sales with 40% more install base isn't somehow not a commercial failure
Bayonetta 2 off to a slow start in Japan [Update: Week 2 sales]
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The 360 sales of Bayonetta in Japan weren't good though so barely maybe almost getting to something under those sales with 40% more install base isn't somehow not a commercial failure
Astral Dog
Member
Well this is it.
,Im leaving now,glad PG made this game after all and im going to play the fuck out of it, even gladly bought a Wii U for it and W101, but i will try to avoid visiting these sales threads.
lukeskymac
Member
I'll buy it... as soon as I buy a Wii U.
Which by my calculations is 2016.
Which by my calculations is 2016.
Not sure why it matters. The low sales don't make the game any less good. Platinum Games will continue to get work and Nintendo will continue to fund games for studios. For those that are thinking it would've been some huge hit on the other platforms, they tried that shit already. The weak sales there is the reason Nintendo had to save this game in the first place. I'm sure they went into this knowing that it wouldn't light up the sales charts. And despite that, the game EXISTS. AND it's packaged with the first game for one price. Whatever their goal was in publishing this game, I could give a damn. Good shit Nintendo, thank you for the charity.
Aquamarine
Member
Nintendo uses Media Create for all of their Japanese sales tracking needs, so that's usually the main justification. Other companies like Capcom prefer Famitsu for public sales reporting to investors...but they tend to subscribe to both services.
The two both have their strengths.
On the one hand, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Square Enix, Capcom, Konami, Bandai Namco, Sega, and Electronic Arts all subscribe to Media Create.
But on the other hand, Famitsu has a special partnership with NPD and GfK and is internationally recognised by multiple agencies as the standard for Japanese sales tracking.
In my opinion...
Famitsu tracks ~3,600 stores in Japan, and they have tracked the video game industry for a longer period than Media Create, so you have more sales data to compare. And, we have more Famitsu data on GAF that we can use in sales threads.
Like Famitsu, Media Create tracks >3,000 stores, and they do a good job tracking the industry, but in my opinion they're a little too optimistic at times...so I prefer Famitsu.
You can't go wrong with either tracker, though.
Malio
Member
I'm not getting it...doesn't do a thing for me. Nintendo can't afford that with these niche titles, they've got to get broader appealing titles (aka the 3rd party stuff the other consoles are getting) on the Wii U and it's just not going to happen.
I'm fucking bummed for the Wii U, man. It's been a real clusterfuck. I'm not looking forward to anything til Zelda and Xenoblade X gets here. I gotta feeling Ninty is going to all but abandon it in 2015. I'm bummed.
I'm fucking bummed for the Wii U, man. It's been a real clusterfuck. I'm not looking forward to anything til Zelda and Xenoblade X gets here. I gotta feeling Ninty is going to all but abandon it in 2015. I'm bummed.
I like you.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
This game is the only reason I'm buying a Wii U next month. As long as the game still gets released stateside, I won't worry myself about Japanese sales.
Alcoholikaust
Member
I don't think that's surprising.
Let's wait till it launches outside of Japan for knee jerk reactions.
Let's wait till it launches outside of Japan for knee jerk reactions.
Elfforkusu
Member
Maybe it's buried in the thread already, but if so, I missed it:
What do big console releases on non-Wii U systems pull in Japan these days? Based on every Media Create thread I've seen, it can't be much better.
What do big console releases on non-Wii U systems pull in Japan these days? Based on every Media Create thread I've seen, it can't be much better.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
This is kinda out of left field but let me know what you think of this theory:
Part of the reason why Platinum's games don't sell in Japan is because Japanese gamers detest the fact that gaijins/otaku love them so much. They don't want to be associated with that.
Any chance at all something like that could be true?
Part of the reason why Platinum's games don't sell in Japan is because Japanese gamers detest the fact that gaijins/otaku love them so much. They don't want to be associated with that.
Any chance at all something like that could be true?
Char Aznable
Member
well it's not unexpected considering the install base, but it still suck :C
of course it doesn't. who even mentioned that?
but the intricacies of marketing, exposure, sales and public reception is interesting to some especially when the game at hand is considered a quality product.
some of us are interested in more that 'i like this game and that's the end of it' in the working of our industry.
QuantumZebra
Member
Yea let us forget sales and just appreciate that we have Bayonetta 1&2 in a awesome little package on Wii U.
And apparently Bayo 2 is amazing
kitchenmotors
Banned
And what were you "right" on?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It doesn't really have to do with a particular userbase, it has to do with too many people passing on such excellent games.
If it was on the PS4, it'd probably do very shitty in Japan as well.
Kamiya is his alias. His real name is Takeshi Hongo.
Spieler Eins
Member
PG/Clover sells nowhere though. In fact, MGR only was somewhat of a success in Japan iirc.
With comments like this, are you buying it?
Various Artists
Banned
I knew it wasn't going to happen but I so wanted this to blow up huge. 
Because they don't have enough of the type of generic character designs you'd find in an anime targeted toward teens.
And it's not really comparable because it's a spin off of a huge franchise while Bayo 2 is a sequel to a new IP.
Look at the chart and ask you this question : Goliath (Samsh+Yokai) vs David (Bayonetta) who win ?
Meesh
Member
Yeah sure man, like a Fringe LSD overdose in a sensory deprivation chamber kinda alternate earth way, but I follow ya.
I just happen to be one of those dirty gaijin otaku though But,(David) Bayos got some pretty big rocks though...
Valkerionseven
Member
Despite what people might say, Yokai Watch's main base actually is children so I don't think its actually fair to include it when talking about why Bayonetta sales are low. Before people cite pokemon's adult fans, they were fans as children and are now adults.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
PS4 selling even worse in japan. 3DS is successful and Vita bombed. Seems no one can predict the video games market there. And that is a good thing.
uncredited male
Member
As a Wii U owner can I still buy this or would that not be what is best for Bayonetta 2?
speculawyer
Member
That's because those crazy Japanese have abandoned consoles.
I don't understand that. Are their houses so small now that a console can't fit?
I don't understand that. Are their houses so small now that a console can't fit?
I'm not sure why some people think Nintendo is going to abandon Wii U in 2015. Nintendo's already announced that it is releasing at least 8 games for next year (not counting Fatal Frame 5, Devil's Third, Fire Emblem X SMT, or eShop titles such as Mario vs. DK). It's probably safe to say that 2015 will probably have the best software lineup for both halves of the year compared to 2013 and 2014.
Amen, brother.
PensivePen
Member
I'm not sure what you're even asking. Just buy the game if you want to play it man.
LowParry
Member
No. Don't buy it. In fact, go buy that crazy Zelda hack'n slack game. But I'm going to buy it when it comes out.
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Deleted member 17706
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Honestly higher sales than I thought.
Yep, Nintendos problem. Noone is going to blame Platinum
I thought people knew this game was going to do terribly, and were just happy that they were getting it in the first place? Personally, I think PG deserves an applause. They've outdone themselves. One only needs to remember TW101 to know that this is an upward trajectory.
I'm sure Scalebound will continue that trajectory and be a better worldwide seller than both Bombanetta 2 and the superhero wannabes. On the Age of One however.
I'm sure Scalebound will continue that trajectory and be a better worldwide seller than both Bombanetta 2 and the superhero wannabes. On the Age of One however.
nephilimdj
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Good thing Nintendo didnt buy them or they would be making donkey kong games now :/
Spieler Eins
Member
What's too small might be their tolerance to buy expensive machines that don't offer you anything. The last big release on Wiiu was Mario Kart in May. Before that some other (not very spectacular) Mario game in 2013. PS4 has even less, I'm baffled it's successful anywhere.
abstract alien
Member
I don't understand how you came to this conclusion based on the pic you posted. Where does he say or insinuate that it doesn't matter?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
gigantor21
Member
I'm sure the latter will be true, but I can't see how many more bombs Platinum can have and still get access to the funding they need to make the games they want. People have every right to worry about their sales numbers in light of that, especially if (like me) they enjoy the studios' output.
abstract alien
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Indeed. Indeed.