Destiny |OT5| New patch out Tues., Master Rahool reportedly crying into his robes

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Is it going to be impossible for me to ever get to level 30, I'm probably never going to do the raid, I don't even have a headset or the time to play with 5 other randoms who I can't rely on (based on strike experience) I'm carrying most teammates through strikes so I can't imagine how shit the raid would be for me.

Actually kinda worried...

If your question is 'can I get to 30 without doing the raid'... the answer currently is no. Only raid gear will let you hit 30. You can get 29 with 1 exotic and maxed legendary armor I believe, but I'm not positive as I won't be leveling my armor past 28 until I acquire raid gear.

I've only 'completed' the raid once so far, have attempted it two or 3 other times, all with random (gaf randoms) minus 1 friend. I would say you'll need a headset if you want to actually contribute in a meaningful way, but others may say otherwise.
 
See that I don't mind, especially when using that to complete the bounties.

But when you are making progress on the boss and are in a rhythm and then the lag nation attacks and you can't pick up the relic or do anything then it gets disheartening. Ah well, there is always tomorrow but was on such a high from the other parts of the raid that it just made me temporarily bitter.

the worst is trying to pick up ammo in pvp...and nope
 
So I'm stuck in PvP? Basically the same situation of carrying my team every match, crazy how shit most people are at it, its just halo.

Instead of letting us all know how good you are, why not ask us to group up?

Have you considered asking in this thread for people with similar schedules as you to try the raid with?

Oh, I can level up my Cryptarch tomorrow when the patch goes live.

Hopefully I get some legendary engrams! =)

My plan exactly. I have a vault full of blues.

I bet the drop rates for legendary Cryptarch rewards will be much less to compensate for the guaranteed chance, though.
 
Is it going to be impossible for me to ever get to level 30, I'm probably never going to do the raid, I don't even have a headset or the time to play with 5 other randoms who I can't rely on (based on strike experience) I'm carrying most teammates through strikes so I can't imagine how shit the raid would be for me.

Yep, it's impossible. Only raid gear legendaries reach 30 light, which is necessary to reach level 30.
 
So I'm stuck in PvP? Basically the same situation of carrying my team every match, crazy how shit most people are at it, its just halo.

I mistyped.

I meant Iron Banner.

The Iron Banner will have +30 light legendaries. However; level matters in Iron Banner so expect to get chewed up by the level 29-30s.
 
Vanquisher or shadow price

I have both, but currently prefer the shadow price. They have similar stats, but one of the benefits of my shadow price is extended magazine (42 rounds), very beneficial in my opinion. But, it all boils down to the skill tree of the weapon and what you prefer.
 
One purple drop (some lousy hand canon) in 49 hours of total playtime (over two characters)! :(

I witnessed a buddy get two Exotic drops in an evening though. That was fun.

So who has worse luck than me? There has to be at least a few GAFers who have pissed off RNGesus more than I have.

100 hrs played, only got 1 exotic bounty, 1 legendary scout rifle and 23 motes got me exotic chest piece. Every thing else I got . using imgame currency. So my luck is worse lol.
 
Did some get caught up in a ip block or something in an attempt to stop/slow down DDOS attacks? I was able to access the store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com on my PC using a proxy whereas without one I am unable to connect to any PSN service on my PC, PS4 or any other device.
 
See that I don't mind, especially when using that to complete the bounties.

But when you are making progress on the boss and are in a rhythm and then the lag nation attacks and you can't pick up the relic or do anything then it gets disheartening. Ah well, there is always tomorrow but was on such a high from the other parts of the raid that it just made me temporarily bitter.

The final boss on the raid in general feels a bit of a mess, it needs to be coordinated pretty much perfectly and not just lag but glitches throughout it throws off any type of rhythm you try to get.
 
I fucking got the Auto Rifle from Atheon last night. Shit is fucking hardcore. 70 bullets. Gets more accurate. Does more damage as you fire. Has Void attribute. Shit yeah.

I have that. The stability upgrade increases the stability to almost 75 it looks like. Combined with the max rate of fire, that's insane. I don't have mine leveled that far yet.
 
Did some get caught up in a ip block or something in an attempt to stop/slow down DDOS attacks? I was able to access the store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com on my PC using a proxy whereas without one I am unable to connect to any PSN service on my PC, PS4 or any other device.

It is very possible they are setting up geographical filters at certain times to track the origin of attack.
 
The final boss on the raid in general feels a bit of a mess, it needs to be coordinated pretty much perfectly but not just lag but glitches throughout it throws off any type of rhythm you try to get.

The last time we attempted the last boss, we basically were on the receiving end of glitches every other portal. When that happens it absolutely destroys any type of cohesion/strategy you were going with... Its a damn nightmare honestly. I really believe if it weren't for the random wtf just happened/why moments the last boss would be pretty easy.
 
The last time we attempted the last boss, we basically were on the receiving end of glitches every other portal. When that happens it absolutely destroys any type of cohesion/strategy you were going with... Its a damn nightmare honestly. I really believe if it weren't for the random wtf just happened/why moments the last boss would be pretty easy.


Sounds like your portal team needs to learn how to deal with portal transions. You can drastically reduce the amount of glitches by just walking through them normally.
 
What armor do you have that attracts friends?

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Sounds like your portal team needs to learn how to deal with portal transions. You can drastically reduce the amount of glitches by just walking through them normally.
That doesn't help the random times when the boss decides the three furthest players aren't the ones he's going to teleport. Damn game cheats sometimes, lol.
 
I still have yet to even attempt the Raid. Mind if I ask some questions about it:

1) Is it like the Nightfall, where if everyone dies you get booted out of it?

2) How long does it take to complete the first time through it? I've seen videos of it, but they go on a LONG time. It seems like it takes some people several hours total the first time. Don't know if that is the average.

3) What kind of special weapons you need? Void damage?

4) How does it compare to the Nightfall Strikes? Those things are CRAZY hard, so if the Raid is even harder, I'd imagine it to be nigh impossible for me.

5) Do you actually need to finish the Raid to get great loot or can you just get done with part of it and get rewards?

-in normal mode, there are no respawns. your teammates have to wait 30 seconds after you die before they can revive you (i believe the jumping puzzle and maze are the exceptions)

-if you have 3 or more people who don't have any raid experience, expect to take anywhere from 2 to 10 hours, mostly because of the coordination required in the boss battles. once you know the encounters and the role that you are playing, it can be done in an hour or less, although the average group may take 2 hours at that point. if everyone is completely new to it, don't look up any strategies for the sake of the experience of learning the encounters. otherwise, try to watch a video or read a strategy so that the players who have been through it already aren't struggling to explain things

-the main element you will be dealing with is void. void specials and heavies are your best friend, especially for minotaurs and praetorians. you will have an unnecessarily hard time otherwise. is also a good idea not to use a weapon with a slow rate of fire or a shallow clip unless it does a good amount of damage.

-the raid on normal difficulty isn't all that difficult. however, it requires you to be coordinated with your team at all times and efficient in your roles. one person can mess up and wipe the entire phase. nightfall is more difficult on an encounter basis, but you have the luxury of taking those missions slowly and finding cheese spots. you have to be on your toes in the raid

-there are several chests and opportunities for you to get drops. because of the checkpoints, people often stop after one drop and then continue later. finishing the raid nets its own drops, but there are opportunities for drops prior to finishing. if you've already earned a drop from a chest or encounter, you wont earn anything from it again for that week.
 
Sounds like your portal team needs to learn how to deal with portal transions. You can drastically reduce the amount of glitches by just walking through them normally.

Which among many other things we did... I like your use of 'reduce' and not 'eliminate'. But hey, feel free to keep defending problems/sounding pro! ;)
 
God damn it, I just don't have the time.

I hope at some point they realize that if people are farming, there's an underlying cause they should address.

I'm sorry. What?

Every game that's ever had loot ever has had people who farm, often to ridiculous levels. It's part and parcel of loot and levelling systems - particularly in a multplayer environment.

There's no denying the loop system needs some work. But it's foolish to think that farming is a symptom of some deep rooted flaw. People farm and exploit because it's fun to get new, better stuff. It will always exist.
 
Sounds like your portal team needs to learn how to deal with portal transions. You can drastically reduce the amount of glitches by just walking through them normally.

Exactly, just walk out, one at a time, and only after the message "Guardians make their own fate" has popped. When we did that, all portal troubles were resolved.

We did notice some "lag" in the boss yesterday though, relicshield suddenly dropping, time's vengeance ending and after I would still hold the relic easily for another 10 seconds without anything happening.
 
I've been playing mostly PvE over the last weekend as I'm away from home on a rather limited line in the middle of nowhere, I look forward to the crypto update tomorrow.
 
38hrs playing lvl 27
2 exotic bounties
1 legendary helm (for a different class)
1 legendary class item (for a different class)

All legendaries/exotic armor has been bought. Crappiest "loot game" ever. Hopefully tomorrow fixes a lot of the problems.

I feel like Bungie really dropped the ball with legendary/exotic diversity. If they had lvl 15-20 (or even higher?) legendary/exotic items it would add so much more to the end game and they wouldn't need to be as sparse with the drops. At least you'd get different defense/light level/damage which as it stands now is identical across all items of the same rarity.
 
I finally figured out a strategy for gaining more faction rep on single player missions. Take crucible bounties and bust out a few patrols in the process. Six patrols and one bounty amounts to 160 rep points. Do that 20 times and I level up. I can't wait to buy a legendary FWC hand cannon. It's calling me and whispering gently in my ears.
 
See that I don't mind, especially when using that to complete the bounties.

But when you are making progress on the boss and are in a rhythm and then the lag nation attacks and you can't pick up the relic or do anything then it gets disheartening. Ah well, there is always tomorrow but was on such a high from the other parts of the raid that it just made me temporarily bitter.

Were we in the same group?
 
uhm, I need to do 15 100 points bounties to get rank 2 in the crucible.

zzz

isn't there a better way? Or maybe getting rank 2 in Vanguard takes less time?
 
Yeah Iv tried it and my group posted a video about it. It's fucking hilarious that it got through testing.

i'd imagine that when you're in a controlled environment with bungie guys hovering behind and the people you're facing sitting beside you, exploiting the game doesn't really cross the mind.

i am surprised though that nobody accounted for the possibility of abuse, or if they did they didn't find it substantial enough. or maybe they think it's a legitimate tactic in the game mode?

i dunno, these are the kind of things you put in a beta to test.
 
i'd imagine that when you're in a controlled environment with bungie guys hovering behind and the people you're facing sitting beside you, exploiting the game doesn't really cross the mind.

i am surprised though that nobody accounted for the possibility of abuse, or if they did they didn't find it substantial enough. or maybe they think it's a legitimate tactic in the game mode?

i dunno, these are the kind of things you put in a beta to test.

Millions of people played in the alpha and beta and it was not caught until retail release. I don't think we can put this on the testers, it's just an oversight no one would have thought of.
 
Man I've been owning on Crucible today. Dat Suros. I've not upgraded it because I upgraded a weapon in the beta that slowed its fire rate when aiming and it felt worse. Which is a shame because I really want to upgrade it. Maybe if I find/buy another :p
 
Where the hell is the Divisive Mind in "The Black Garden" mission for this bounty?! I have done it three times now from start to finish, killed every Vex, and the boss and yet that damn bounty is incomplete.
 
during the last section, gatelords leadings up to Ath, how do you cleanse? The wt's say to do it, but I'm not sure how
 
So I'm stuck in PvP? Basically the same situation of carrying my team every match, crazy how shit most people are at it, its just halo.



Looool, the one guy I've added off here got 30 kills, died 10+ times and was generally useless in the one strike we did, whilst being 2 levels higher than the required level.

So, based on that one guy, you're totally ignoring the large number of people in this very thread well on their way to level 29 and 30, who have been talking about how much they enjoy the raid and doling out strategies, and assume we're all as terrible as this one guy and you're basically king of Destiny?



With that attitude I'm surprised you're able to do a strike.





EDIT: Are the PSN problems still going? I haven't really bothered to play much today since I can't see my friends list or apparently receive messages. Really hope they're sorted before raid time comes round....
 
Where the hell is the Divisve Mind in "The Black Garden" mission for this bounty?! I have done it three times now from start to finish, killed every Vex, and the boss and yet that damn bounty is incomplete.
It's one of the mini nexus looking things right after you reach the black garden. Got it today.
 
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