diablos991
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You need 1 strange coin for the bad juju bounty.
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You need 1 strange coin for the bad juju bounty.
That's a completely different story. You're talking about introducing multiple difficulty tiers with a progressive matchmaking system to queue players only for their "most difficult proven beatable" version of the raid.
Depending on how easy you make the first difficulty tier (should it be completable without voice chat? with only 4 people?) you run the risk of either failing to adequate prepare players for "the real thing" if you err on the easy end, or the exact same issues that would crop up with the current raid if you err on the hard end.
This is an unnecessarily complex solution that involves considerably more programming effort than simply including an in-game LFG listing board with the ability to leave notes. Your "all Bungie would have to do" is equivalent to "create multiple versions of the games toughest content each catering to a different skill/coordination level than originally intended." Not a day's work.
The idea that lacking matchmaking simply "not allowing people to enjoy the game" should be laughable to anyone who has tried the raid. 6 matchmade new players with no coordination or even voice chat would have an absolute disaster of a time and probably never want to try again. It's not a magic fix.
only one for me. I think it was when I turned in 4-5 bounties at once. Maybe try that.
I agree with those here saying there should at least be OPTIONAL matchmaking for Weekly Heroics, Daily Story Heroics, and the Nightfall.
If people are solo'ing these events now then there isn't much of an argument against optional matchmaking. If they can detect if a mic is activated, or if they require that you be at the minimum level or higher of the activity in order to submit to matchmaking that would help too. I wouldn't want to match up in a Nightfall with a random Level 25 player.
I can't speak for the raid though as I have yet to try it.
If people are solo'ing these events now then there isn't much of an argument against optional matchmaking. If they can detect if a mic is activated, or if they require that you be at the minimum level or higher of the activity in order to submit to matchmaking that would help too. I wouldn't want to match up in a Nightfall with a random Level 25 player.
I can't speak for the raid though as I have yet to try it.
AusRoachman
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TheContact
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Whoa really I never knew this
Goodacre0081
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looks like the Queens Weapons get a damage boost once you hit Rank3.
must be nice. But I get what you're saying - I'm just now realizing how to game that system. Doing the daily on 28 today will get me two shards (hopefully) and I'll upgrade to a 28.
I totally agree to some extent. Nightfall's die-and-get-punted restriction begs you to "break it." And the Minotaur in the Nexus cave for example is almost outright endorsement from Bungie XDI don't see anything wrong with it, because clearly Bungie designed these spots to be used. Running around like a chicken with its head cut off and shooting rockets might be more exciting but in Nightfall there's not much room for error
Lostconfused
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Yes but you have social obligations to your friends which will stop you from acting like a dick. The absolute anonymity of matchmaking removes that.
WoW has social features which allow the creation and policing of an online community that this game doesn't. What works in WoW will not work in Destiny. That's exactly why a 3rd party website is needed.
"All Bungie would have to do...".
That's not exactly a small task. If it takes them this long to balance a few weapons, balancing an entire raid to easy mode is going to take ages.
As the content stands /right now/, there are plenty of reasons why mm is a bad idea. I detailed the main offenders above. Feel free to discuss them and add some counter points if you don't agree.
*tips hat*
Sending a friend request for later, okay.
Ban Puncher
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If I have to do another 'Shoot 200 Jerks in the Head' bounty, I am going to shoot myself in the head.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I'm in the same boat accept I'm a 29 titan in the middle of the country. I'll add you incase something comes up.
I think we're friends already, but if we're not, then cool.
MADGAME
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People arguing otherwise sure sound a lot like Bungie, telling us how the game should be played and what the best experience for everyone is.
Marvel
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Was brutal lol
Would you also be interested in the normal Raid this weekend as well for people like myself who haven't done it but who'd like to play with those that know what they're doing and can explain directions so I and all of us around running around clueless for 8 hours? Haha.
I really want to run it from start to finish this weekend at some point. If not no big deal.
That's what it is.
My experience with pulse rifles has been awful, I'll still give it a fair shot though.
EL CUCO
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Its part of the Bad JuJu bounty. After the 25 strikes, im supposed to see him.
If I dont get the 25 done by Saturday, I'd have to wait until the following Friday/Saturday for him to return :/
super-famicom
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It's not 500 kills, it's 500 points. A kill is worth 5 points, a death is -2. I did it in Rumble with a void shotgun.
Yeah that's complete bullshit. I completed my first two raid encounters with a group of complete strangers via the third party LFG system.
There are games, like WoW, that already implement a variety of these systems that can be used as a model.
And let's be honest, Bungie already knows how to modify existing content because they've been doing it for years with their skill system.
I seriously don't understand why this game with its terrible itemization and lack of focus on social play is so staunchly defended here. The game needs a lot of work and there are plenty of games that can be easily emulated here and still give Destiny it's own identity.
It's grossly becoming apparent that this game tried to brazenly trail blaze when it wasn't necessary.
If that's what you think then you clearly haven't read the posts we've made.
Like, not at all.
I agree. I even play PvP almost exclusively and I can't get my counter higher than 15 and by the end of the night it's almost always back to 0.
I wish it actually played out how it is descibed in its tooltip where dying would just slow down your progress. So maybe it's 5 points per kill but if you keep dying it would go down to 4 points per kill then 3 then 2 then 1. Even if I was always stuck at 1 point per kill at least I'd be able to eventually finish the dang thing.
I suck at using fusion rifles or shotguns. I want to use my primary not secondaries.
It's the second time I tried and we still couldn't get past the left and right columns.
Sunsinger Warlocks are perfect for Raid Hard Mode due to their special.
Nice playing with you in Nightfall. If you need someone for Normal Raid, invite. I know how it works now. I want the complete Raid with Clan members trophy.
FloatingDivider
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I think it kinda sucks that the raid mobs drop so little loot. It's dissapointing when you're running the raid multiple times. You can waste a few hours shooting raid mobs only to walk out with 0 loot. I think that's kinda silly since they're the hardest enemies in the game. Yet the lvl1 dregs seem to drop more loot.
That whole conflux part before the oracles in the templar arena has to be the hardest part of the entire raid. For me it is, at least. It's nuts how making the enemies level 30 makes it that much difficult for unprepared groups.
If you need me, sure. I got shafted in the raid yesterday by getting shards, a third fucking raid sniper rifle, and a second glass minuet so I'm kinda salty about the ordeal. However, I can definitely help.
The Daily Story Heroics if nothing else sure, as long as the matchmaking WAS optional. I like the challenge of doing them solo on occasion.
The Weekly Heroics, okay, not awful to consider. One player can carry the team quite a bit. Checkpoints will be a godsend for a matchmade team.
Nightfall... hmmmm. This is where we get into territory where I use the metric, "would it be fun for me if I were the third?" I really don't know. Without coordination, a Nightfall can last 5 minutes before winding up back in orbit. There are SOME measures you can implement to ensure competency or adequate gear on those entering the queue, but these will only get you so far.
Even if they don't have/use a mic, being able to hear a player that knows what he or she is doing is absolutely 100% necessary IMO. I have done something on the order of 20 Nightfall strikes with GAFers now and the idea of having been able to succeed without them at least hearing me, even if they couldn't respond with voice, is a joke.
Twilight Gap
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It's the second time I tried and we still couldn't get past the left and right columns.
Sunsinger Warlocks are perfect for Raid Hard Mode due to their special.
what's the main thing that makes it more difficult?
Agreed. The raid actually requires some communication so fair enough but the weekly strikes and Nightfall are just the same old strikes that you can play with any stranger.
Finally after weeks of playing my luck has started to turn for the better. Across the 6 legendary engrams I picked up this past week 5 have become legendary items and the 6th a pair of exotic gauntlets for a titan. 2 days ago I was able to get the bounty for pocket infinity. Then last night after completing the nightfall mission I get the exotic rocket launcher "Truth". I almost feel like Master Rahool and the RNG are trying to make good on all those green pants they kept re-gifting.
The one question I have is I am currently using the "Super Pox VLO" pulse rifle and also picked up "Fair and Square" last night. They seem to have similar stats except fair and square can be turned into an auto fire pulse rifle. I was wondering if fair and square is worth investing some time into or if I should just scrap it now.
I was all ready to leave this game to play Forza Horizon 2, but with the great streak I've been having I can't seem to walk away.
The one question I have is I am currently using the "Super Pox VLO" pulse rifle and also picked up "Fair and Square" last night. They seem to have similar stats except fair and square can be turned into an auto fire pulse rifle. I was wondering if fair and square is worth investing some time into or if I should just scrap it now.
I was all ready to leave this game to play Forza Horizon 2, but with the great streak I've been having I can't seem to walk away.
Or there being any sort of "trash" mob encounters. It's basically a linear path from boss 1 to boss 2.
Lord of Castamere
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Servers why have you forsaken me.
Pound_lb003
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Is anyone looking to do the Raid here, like right now? I'm a Level 27 Titan.
PSN: Pound_lb003
PSN: Pound_lb003
But it does work that way... And you only lose 2 points per death... If not, something's up and you should contact support(after paying close attention to it to confirm.) I've done the bounty and I'm far from a monster in PvP lol
Edit: well not the way you describe, but you can die twice per kill and make progress lol.
Revolutionary
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lol yeah that happened to me too. The enemies have impossible aim with every mortar-style weapon, really (Knights, Minotaurs, etc).
But anyway you can take out the tank with 12 arc sniper shots. 3 to each corner of the tank, in case you weren't aware.
After finishing the raid a few times, I am 100% certain that a random group of 6 strangers who have finished the raid at least once before could easily finish the raid together. Once you know how the fights work there's very little that needs coordinating. And if it's six strangers who are thrown together with no prior experience, they can still finish the raid. That's what me and 5 other gaffers did. Whether we coordinated forming our group through GAF or through the matchmaking, doesn't really make a difference.
To not have matchmaking for the lowest level raid is silly.
CrimzonSamurai
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And, once again, the Speaker denies me my Moctezuma-Polyphonic titan mark.
Oh well, maybe I can get 50 motes and buy Deep Stone Crypt to hold me over until next Wednesday.
Oh well, maybe I can get 50 motes and buy Deep Stone Crypt to hold me over until next Wednesday.
No revives. If there were revives, it would make dealing with lv 30 enemies so much easier.
Marvel
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Yeah, it's the hardest part imo.
MADGAME
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Lol.
Goodacre0081
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I was getting very pissed at this Bounty until I seen a suggestion of running Rumble matches with a Shotgun. Anomaly was the best map for this.
Has anyone gone back and ran through every story mission on the hardest difficulty yet? Though I'm 99.9999999999% sure you won't get dick for it, just curious if there was a reward. It's sort of like the legendary difficulty for Halo games... and the "Nightfall" version would be LASO. I doubt you get any rewards, but you should.
Can't bring myself to running through that story again.
Can't bring myself to running through that story again.
Twilight Gap
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aww yiss, finally the pocket infinity bounty shows up. been needing to get rid of these rare fusion rifles in my vault
are there respawns after each phase?
are there respawns after each phase?
When it's out, you won't have to ask
EL CUCO
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Wait...no revives?! Like, you cant revive anybody in the Raid (Hard)...ever...at all?
AmateurHour212
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