If the Xbox One port looks and runs like complete shit, then it's not going to sell well over long periods. Therefore sales for AC will be very low on the console.
It really isn't that hard to understand.
Assassin's Creed "Parity": Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One
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If the Xbox One port looks and runs like complete shit, then it's not going to sell well over long periods. Therefore sales for AC will be very low on the console.
It really isn't that hard to understand.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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They make it very clear their preference is with Microsoft, last generation it was just less obvious because at least in the states, the 360 was by far the most popular console.
matty2Dfraud
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The crying in this thread is gold. Gold!
And AC Unity is still going to be one of the best selling games this year.
And AC Unity is still going to be one of the best selling games this year.
meanspartan
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Why?
What difference does it make to them if in a few years there are, say, 60 million gamers with Ps4s and 30 million with Xbox Ones VS. an equal 45 million on each?
Liferebooted
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Wtf, this isn't next gen. ps4 preorder canceled. Will buy at $40 or less.
So you're assuming that Xbox owners will be FURIOUS and won't buy the game because it naturally doesn't perform as well on their weaker system and yet if Ubisoft decides to put in less effort and actively nerf the PS4 version (which is a much larger potential customer base), PS4 owners won't care. Can you really not see how angry PS4 owners are over this? Do you honestly think they would sell less copies if they put a decent effort into BOTH versions?
TimeEffect
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Something on r/XboxOne that I thought was interesting:
What? This game is going to be growing install bases on account of it being current gen only. Ubi doesn't have any vested interest in trying to assure the bases grow equally.
Its childish. If you wanted to really stand by your principles, don't pay attention to the franchise anymore. And I don't care if this franchise made a billon dollars in sales, you don't like it, don't buy it. In any form. Its a hard stance, but judging by the reactions ITT, that stance isn't going to be hard for some to take.
Goodacre0081
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it's almost as drastic a pushing around small indie developers. threatening to deny them access to the platform if they release on a competitor first.
BruiserBear
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Convincing argument.
Watch Dogs sold great, and looked and ran kinda shitty on both consoles. The average Joe doesn't give a shit.
I think you just answered your own question. Microsoft is the one paying for the marketing deal, and while I don't think any money changed hands for this, one side comment by a MS exec was probably enough for Ubi to get the hint.
GTA V, Advanced Warfare, Destiny, FIFA 15....etc. These games will all sell better than AC Unity.
What Sony should do is have some mandatory 1080p clause for developers. That should nullify whatever shit Microsoft forced on Ubisoft.
ramuh
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I just laugh everytime I hear Polygon. Reminds me of that tweet about sending people to the block-button ranch from some Polygon person.
See my comment above.
Poimandres
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The thing is, though, that a resolution bump from 900P to 1080P won't make the PS4 version "way better" and would have no negative impact on XB1 version sales. That doesn't really come into play unless one version is totally borked (like Skyrim or something).
Never gonna happen. Sony likes money too.
Poodle Cannon
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I'm sure the game will be fun, regardless of the native resolution. It seems weird to me that some people won't buy it now. Maybe getting it for PC would be better for people who like the pixels.
Fun game play shouldn't continue to be overshadowed by resolution and gfx stats with the consoles. Some devs are going to do this for multiplatform games despite the better ps4 GPU. Maybe they'll patch it to 1080p so some of you can enjoy the game.
Fun game play shouldn't continue to be overshadowed by resolution and gfx stats with the consoles. Some devs are going to do this for multiplatform games despite the better ps4 GPU. Maybe they'll patch it to 1080p so some of you can enjoy the game.
shacklesmcgee
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Please tell me that by "interesting" you meant "laughable"?
edotlee
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I'm sorry but that answer was just inane.
Nah I dont think that would be a good thing.
Your post. Awesome.
matty2Dfraud
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You act like NeoGaf is an actual representation of the real world. Yeah, all 10 million PS4 owners the world over are just fuming mad... fuming! lol you guys need to step out of the basement.
vpance
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It won't happen, but I kind of want to see that, lol. That would easily take the game from being a 7 million seller to like 3.
Louis Cyphre
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How could they stop them from publishing the game, on what grounds? That they purposely created a game that was in parity of the XBOX One version? I don't see how that would ever hold up unless Sony made it mandatory every PS4 game had to be 1080p.
If we live in a world were interesting can also mean dumb I totally agree.
MS is giving them money for free advertising alongside the Xbox. Maybe Ubisoft doesn't want the version that's being marketed looking worse? Who knows -- it's all speculation/assumptions until we get actual solid info.
PS3 wasn't the market leader last gen yet Assassin's Creed had Playstation deals last gen too. Ubisoft seems to not really care about that much.
AC can't be an exclusive. Period. PS4 has the larger user base, and Ubisoft needs to sell as many copes as possible. Ubisoft are in no position to pull a TITANFALL under the current circumstances.
wumster3000
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I was getting it on PC, but I can't support this. I just can't. It's really hard for me to not buy this game. I love the AC franchise a lot. I have every console/PC AC game. I will not get this one though.
I don't understand why they didn't do this last gen. Why do this when you have a system that's capable of doing more? This is my feeling towards PC ports too. For the record, if it's a bad PC port, I don't buy them day one, I wait until a super sale or don't buy it at all.
People are blowing it off as a none factor, but this could set a precedent for future titles.
meanspartan
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Most of those are not horsepower related and aren't taken advantage of because they normally would be gimmicks. If you bought an Xbox One thinking Kinect would matter for gaming after seeing what the original Kinect did over the past few years on 360, shame on you, you shoulda known better.
And Sony never paid anyone to NOT include Kinect or smartglass support or whatever. The circumstantial evidence is that Microsoft did pressure or pay Ubisoft to gimp the Ps4 version.
You're going to last about as long as the Chiefs in the playoffs.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Haha.
Should we make the same post about interactive streams, the ds4 touchpad, photo modes and headset profiles?
Come on, there is a point you are just splitting hairs. Most of the Xbox ones exclusive titles dont even satisfy that list.
Sony payed for the marketing just the last year and the fanbase is much bigger on Playstation. It's not like Ubisoft is broke. They could handle all the marketing themselves if they wanted to.
legacyzero
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Right on que.
Ign doing damage control as well, jesus.
I seriously don't understand this. Why not be the voice for Gamers, and the industry in a positive way, instead of thrashing them?
Nope. That would irk some developers who possibly couldn't get their games to that level on the system without major compromises and ruin the relationship some have with Sony.
Still no patch for Watch Dogs.
ramuh
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Oh yay. Another stupid post stating that since every Gamer isn't a Gafer then your position is irrevelant. Oh and we got to get out of the basement guys/gals!
This is the same dumb argument people had when the whole "NoDRM" and earlier issues with resolution were going on. Those issues went "mainstream" very quickly.
meanspartan
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This is a forum about videogames. We are obviously all aware that the resolution and framerate of a game isn't as important as ISIS or something. But we are here to discuss games and to us, this matters. If you are going to use the tired "get out of the basement" line, I am not sure why you are on Gaf.
How does it look fun?
Serious question since I read the previews and saw the gameplay...am I missing something?
That's just ridiculous. Kinect wasn't utilized because no one wanted it. Simple as that.
And PS4 is the market leader, there's no need to go out of your way to support an accessory on the 2nd place console.
GribbleGrunger
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Isn't this also a little convenient for MS? They don't say GPU, they say CPU and the reason they give is AI. What is the main thing MS have been promoting as the be all and end all of 'Cloud power'? It would be AI. This shitstorm would be nothing compared to the shitstorm an announcement from MS that Unity has better AI because of 'cloud power' would bring. What if Ubisoft haven't only held resolution back? What if Ubisoft are refusing to use Compute to its fullest too?
What I'm saying is that it's easier if both versions look the same for Ubisoft. This way, both versions look and play great.
The PS4 guys who actually care about this are in a very small minority.
They didn't kick my puppy. They just showed a tendency to diminish the value of the PS4 I bought a year ago by paying developers to make, not Xbox's console/gaming experience better, but mine worse. It's happened at least twice (that I'm upset about) in the previous few months, and I strongly suspect this is it happening for a third time.
I owned an Xbox last gen. I'm not a Sony fan boy or a Microsoft basher. Sony made the better console this go around, in my opinion, so I chose to purchase their console. Unfortunately I wasn't aware that Microsoft would remedy the issue (of Sony's console being deemed superior by a majority of gamers) by spending money to effectively actively weaken the PS4.
And I simply can't think of a ton of third party games that are equal between Xbone and Ps4, which makes me awfully suspicious how it's happened here, under the dubious guise of quelling debate no less.
And M$ stands for Microsoft all over the Internet; not just in this corner. I didn't intend for it to be derisive, but if you have a chip on your shoulder, I can see how it could be interpreted that way. Love them or hate them, they objectively have a ton of money. I wasn't aware it was looked down upon here.
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