Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)
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prodystopian
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Has anyone played Skyrim with their 970 yet? I have never played and want to check it out now that I will be able to crank up the graphics. Is it possible to downsample it and add texture mods? If not, any recommendations on how to get it to look the best on a 1080p 60Hz monitor?
No problem, before I replied to your last comment I tested it with Shadows of Mordor and tried to record a small vid but I only hear the air flow coming from my case massive fan.
I'm gonna try to capture a better one later.
GearDraxon
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Yup! Currently running it on a 1080p plasma.
My OC'd 970 / i5-3350P aren't quiiiiiiiite able to keep a solid 60 while using 4k DSR, but it's very smooth at 1.5x DSR (I think, I'll have to double check.) This is while running a ton of visual/other mods (pretty much everything in The STEP Project and ENB, etc.)
judging by newegg pictures, yup.
CeramicDragon
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Anyone have the EVGA 970? Why isn't it as popular? They doing a free backplate promo.
I have a 970 strix. The buzzing is there but I've only heard it in one game - final fantasy xiii and only in certain areas of the game. Its only barely audible from outside of my case and only because I sit with the case on my desk and its right next to my ear. I have not been able to reproduce the sound in any other game or benchmark I've tried.
If I had to make an educated guess, I'd say all of the 970s have the ability to make the coil buzz or whine and its going to depend on the individual circumstances of the games that are played, what power supply and how much you'd be able to detect the sound outside of your case under normal gaming conditions. There are definite outliers that are causing extreme noise though.
SliChillax
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Any rumors about the 8GB version? I'm trying way too hard to keep myself from buying one right now, I know I'll be needing the extra vram.
Yes, I've got Skyrim modded with something like 80 different texture mods and some other content, lighting, and effect mods (no ENB though) and a single 1405 MHz boost 970 (like my old 780) is running it downsampled from 4K to 2560x1440 with MSAA and FXAA off and the other default game settings on their max values running pretty consistently at 60 FPS with only some minor loading hitches when running around and dips in the middle of heavy effects like dragon soul absorbing in dense forest areas and stuff. Easily a sufficient card for Skyrim downsampling. Two in SLI let me run Skyrim downsampled from 5120x2880 (5K, I guess) with 2xMSAA and also maintaining 60 FPS from my brief testing.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
I also have my case next to me on my desk, but the cards are clearly audible. It's not a huge deal when there's a lot of sound coming from a game, but in a quiet part of the game or even a menu (that's still rendering something 3D), I can very clearly hear the buzzing and it really bothers me. Ruins the point of the silence and it's a shame because my old 780 (very highly clocked) had a much more subtle form of this buzzing (which I was okay with, not audible except in absolute silent or with my ear right up next to the card). Maybe I should invest in a more soundproof case.
prodystopian
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Thanks! Looking forward to loading up some mods and cranking up the DSR then.
Canis lupus
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How is the MSI 980 with reference cooler http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NPZSJCS/
Anyone has this one, how is it? Never see this one being mentioned.
Anyone has this one, how is it? Never see this one being mentioned.
Because it's the same reference card in other brands.
opticalmace
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What do you mean?
Abdul Hafeez
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Anyone here upgrade from 680 to 970? If so, is it a major improvement?
About a week ago, they priced the EVGA GTX 970 at the same price as the American MRSP (which is unheard of as there is no way Canadian e-tailers won't spring at the chance to fuck us sideways in terms of price-conversion).
Now they've bumped it up by about $40, bringing it in line with what every other Canadian e-tailer is selling it at.
They better not cancel my order.
mugurumakensei
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i upgraded from a 670 OC to a 970 OC. the performance isnt massively better. in real world scenarios, its about 5-15 FPS difference in most games. however, it runs massively cooler. my 670 would regularly hit 86 celsius regularly on crysis 2 and 3. My 970 hits 60 at the highest so far. at 60, the fans actually turn on. this also means the card is more silent. i will say crysis 3 was a jump from around 35 fps at 1440P to a an almost stable 60 FPS 1440P.
Wait, a 5 to 15 fps increase definitely doesn't sound right.....
Abdul Hafeez
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That doesn't sound encouraging. But I'm only going to play at 1080p for the time being, so maybe it'll be a much bigger improvement at that resolution.
mugurumakensei
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well i should mention that i could double or quadruple the amount of antialiasing applied. I use the extra power for antialiasing if the frame rate is good enough. (read locked 30FPS or 60FPS)
It depends on what you value. At comparable settings, its most likely going to be similar to my crysis 3 example of going from 35FPS to 60 FPS.
opticalmace
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What CPU?
mugurumakensei
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2500k @ 3.5-3.9 Ghz depending on whatever my motherboard feels like setting the default clock modifier to that day.
i think its based on my room temp. so, it adjusts the clock automatically based on whether ambient + cpu heat delta < 85 celsius.
Welp. If you're getting CPU bottlenecking (which I hope you aren't), then I'm screwed.
I'm still running around with a first gen i5.
Definitely not dead
I have one as well and it's pretty nice. It's pretty small and the build quality seems nice. I believe by default it runs a bit hotter than the other versions of the card though. Mine reaches 80C at full load with no fan speed alterations or over clocking.mugurumakensei
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nah, its probably just the games ive played on both. I'll leave it at ive had great image quality even with now current gen ports while maintaining an awesome framerate except for in ff13 which is last gen and has the most random frame drops ive ever witnessed. So, I locked it to 8k @ 30 fps and called it a day.
I'd recommend it to anybody who is looking for a new graphics card that has a fair amount of vram, has a low heat profile, and, correspondingly, has high oc potential. At 329, its also a steal for anyone in the us.
That doesn't sound right at all. I went from 680 to 970 and it was pretty much a 50% improvement in everything I tested. Unless you played games at 10 FPS, I doubt you hade anything running at only 5 frames more.
Any game the 680 could play at 60 FPS, the 970 will get 85-90 in. Anything 680 runs at 30 the 970 will run at ~45.
mugurumakensei
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Arma 3 was the game that I got around a 5fps increase.
BrokenEchelon
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Installed my G1 970 yesterday. Just played Alien for two hours. Whisper quiet, cool temps, stupid good performance. I can't deal right now. I came from a 560ti to heaven.
That game is CPU limited to hell and back though. I think I got the same performance at 4K as 1080p or something just as rediculous when I tried some multiplayer in it with my 970.
Arma 2/3 is not a good indicator of anything. Game is ridiculously CPU dependent. I remember going from SLI 580GTX to a 690GTX and barely feeling any kind of difference.
j0hnny_385
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So how does DSR work exactly? I just enable it in Global Settings as a multiple of my native res (1920x1200 in my case) and that's it? No other configurations are necessary?
GearDraxon
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Yup, after that, the new resolutions will show up in-game, wherever you normally set the resolution.
j0hnny_385
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A ha. Got it.
So then I choose the "super resolution" in a game and that's it. DSR does all the rest?
Yep, although it takes a pretty big performance hit due to the intensive Gaussian smoothness filter Nvidia has decided to use. It is more intensive than GeDoSaTo I've noticed.
ThoseDeafMutes
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There is an option in Nvidia control panel for smoothness vs sharpness when using DSR.
Maybe that's what you could tweak?
Yeah, but the problem is that no matter what you do, Nvidia still does all of the processing for the filter in the background so there is no performance difference between 0% and 100%. They need to allow us to disable it completely, but I'm not sure they will.
It's still a new feature for them. Maybe they'll improve performance in later drivers. Still waiting for SLI support right now.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Is the 2700x whatever resolution worth using, btw? I'm thinking of rolling with that in The Evil Within.
Every gtx makes that noise, for years now. How loud it is is more related to your power supply than anything else. You can rma as long as you want but there will be no version without coil whine, especially if you do play with very high framerate. I'm always limiting to 60.
Well, my monitor's native resolution is 2560x1440, so I haven't had much use for DSR. When I do use it, I usually jump to 3840x2160 or 5120x2880.
When I tried running it in crazy mode (All kinds of texture mods, graphics mods, uGrids to 9 and a heavy ENB) at 1080p I got some noticeable FPS dips in vegetation-heavy areas (because I added some performance crippling grass and tree tweaks) but even with all that I could reach 60FPS in most situations. Tune it down a little bit from that and even downsampling should work well as stated by other posts.
brotkasten
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You're fine. I got the same card a week ago and it works well.
Bananajama
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Anyone got any experience with the Palit 970?
Seeing a few in stock for a good price round the UK.
Seeing a few in stock for a good price round the UK.
if youre at a high resolution, (over 1080p), leaping to the 970 from the 680 is pretty significant. That's what I did...... I bought two 970s but tested with just one initially and it was a big jump from my 680. Games that were struggling to hit 60 fps before now held it with ease, with some more AA / AO.
France? Did you order from Pixmania?
Inferno313
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This is getting annoying. RMA'd my whiney EVGA ACX 2.0 970 to Newegg. After more than a week it finally got to them. They were out, so they're just giving me a refund. So now I get to wait another 3-5 days for the money to come in and then I get to shop around again. :/ Guess I can try a better brand this time.
Which 970s have the lowest chance of coil whine?
Which 970s have the lowest chance of coil whine?
IAmRandom31
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1348?vs=1355
Seems to be a pretty significant boost. 15-20fps for most games it seems. Dunno in the PC world if that is considered significant. But I mean the 970 is just over $300 which is still blowing my mind. Getting some pretty great performance out of the GPU's just over 300$ these days.
jfoul
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Seems to be an issue on all non-ref GTX 970s. I absolutely hate coil whine, so I'm thinking about getting a 980.
I like the Gigabyte 970/980 because the memory makes contact with the heatsink for cooling, but it's $629. The Asus Strix is nice because of the 6-phase power and the backplate is actually attached to the mounting bracket. Unfortunately it doesn't have active cooling for the memory, like the MSI Gaming.