Gaiaknight
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Genuinely happy for hyrule warriors that game has provided me with close to 200 hours of gameplay so far and thats not including the DLC that just released ; ;
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Palette Swap
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Didn't the producer say they wanted to sell a million units WW though or am I misremembering?
It's a Dynasty Warriors game in North America
On the WiiU
At the tail end of the month
That's fairly solid.
They wanted 1M worldwide iirc.
It might reach it this holiday, hoping for good EU numbers.
Musou titles are niche as hell over in the west. I wouldn't be at all surprised if HW sold more in 10 days it was on sale than DW8 has sold this year up until now.
LegendofLex
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And a new bundle. Although... I think there was a new U.S. bundle this year, too? (SM3DW)
because it's a Musou game in the west on the Wii U
moltonasty
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lol it's all making sense now.
Yea I get that it's a musou title on the wii u in the west, BUT it's also a "Zelda" title. I mean, sure it's a spin off, but it still doesn't seem like a number to be that excited over. If it can break 500k, then I would be seriously impressed. Great game tho.
openrob
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Niche game, niche console and probably didn't cost that much to develop in comparison to "Big budget" games, meaning Return on investment is easier to acheive.
Problem is every game not named Mario is selling like sh*t so far on Wii U.
Donkey Kong/Zelda Wind Waker and Pikmin 3 bombed.
I don't think the last Zelda title on Wii did that well exactly. And as you mentioned, this is a different beast. Just basing it around Zelda doesn't mean it'll sell millions.
Hyrule Warriors likely cost them very little, and one million worldwide isn't a bad target. If it reaches that number, they will likely have done well overall. Then you add in the fact that it's on a console that has basically sold like crap, and it becomes a little more impressive still.
LegendofLex
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Wind Waker almost definitely didn't "bomb" in the "recoup its investment" sense. But it didn't sell better than it did on GameCube (which was the express justification for its existence per Aonuma), so you're still right.
Gaiaknight
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wind waker didnt bomb its one of the wii u million sellers and i doubt it costed them much to make it as it only took 6 months..
Yes, indeed.
I really wanted to see it sell more than on Gamecube as it's really a great game.
Well I think Nintendo had to know any chance of that went out the window with Wii U tanking in sales everywhere.
Mockingbird
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For comparison sake, what are the sales of the other Warriors/Musou games like in the West?
LegendofLex
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"Being a million seller" matters a lot less when the average sales for enhanced retail remakes in the franchise is in the 3 million ballpark.
But that's on other systems. Relative to the Wii U's average sales per game, a million is not half bad.
Lowered expectations.
That's a pointless comparison. People interested in Zelda should atleast be able to tell the difference between an actual Zelda game versus a fan-servicey wrapper around a game that doesn't really do much here.
It's like expecting Halo Wars to have done as well as Halo 3 just because of the name it has on it. Granted Hyrule Warriors probably did a lot BETTER than it otherwise would have but it was never going to do gangbusters.
LegendofLex
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Yes, but Wind Waker was a bundled game at launch. Its job was to sell consoles, not just sell to current console owners.
I feel that Bayonetta 2 selling on the same level as Hyrule Warriors would make it a bomb.
theprodigy
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Bayonetta 2 matching Hyrule Warriors would be a miracle
edit: in fact, that would be ahead of the original Bayonetta
Yeah, there's no question to Bayonetta 2 being a substantially more expensive game, but with how things are going with Platinum's success at retail, 190k for October would be winning the Super Bowl, going to Disney World, and fucking the prom queen all at once for them.
OrbitalBeard
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190k for Bayonetta 2 in Oct. would be amazing.
It's really not a Zelda game though. It's a Musou game with a Zelda skin. Turning this Musou game into a Zelda crossover didn't take any more effort than, say, One Piece Musou, or Gundam Musou. It just happens to be a more popular brand this time. So you compare it to other Musou games, not Zelda games. That's roughly where it should line up in terms of budget, expectations, etc. Sure, it's normal for it to sell more copies because of the Zelda brand (hell, that's why I bought it), but it's not a Zelda game.
The line of thinking should be more like "this Musou game sold a lot of copies on Wii U in part because they slapped Zelda on it" as opposed to "this Zelda game that plays like Musou sold pretty bad compared to other Zelda games". There's an important distinction there.
So yes people are pleased with the sales.
Bayonetta 2 selling anywhere close to a game with Zelda in the title (well... Link on the cover) would be a minor miracle.
I'm hoping for higher sales for Bayo 2 than Hyrule Warriors, but I'm not expecting it...
One Piece Musou pulls numbers Hyrule Warriors will never dream of.
That has more to do with One Piece being insanely popular and on the PS3 towards the end of its life.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Smash numbers are good. 3DS sales still pretty bad, but the software just isn't there like it was last year.
SUPERJEM94
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Does anybody know what is the total amount Bayo 1 sold worldwide? I'm actually curious.
Hero of Legend
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*In Japan.
The games IIRC only got a digital release in at least NA, not sure about EU.
Also I don't think OP is near as popular in the west as it is in Japan.
I meant in the US
illmatic22
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Actually a good bit of news this month. Smash 3DS is killing it, Hyrule Warriors is off to a good start worldwide. The only bad news is the 3DS hardware numbers, which means Smash on Wii U probably won't shift many consoles either 
~1.35m if I recall.
Hero of Legend
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Actually a good bit of news this month. Smash 3DS is killing it, Hyrule Warriors is off to a good start worldwide. The only bad news is the 3DS hardware numbers, which means Smash on Wii U probably won't shift many consoles either
Or it's one of those "everyone who wanted a 3DS for it already bought it" scenarios?
More like "everyone is waiting for the New 3DS."Or it's one of those "everyone who wanted a 3DS for it already bought it" scenarios?
For those who want to compare Hyrule Warriors numbers in the USA:
Hyrule Warriors - 190,000 (8 days) WiiU
Dynasty Warriors 5 - 150,000 (4 months) PS2
Dynasty Warriors 6 - 220,000 (10 months) PS3/360
Dynasty Warriors 7 - 220,000 (9 months) PS3/360
Numbers taken from NPD and Koei.
Dynasty warriors game sales are never front loaded in the USA. The sales are always spread over the year. Hyrule Warriors looks front loaded.
Dynasty Warriors 5 sold over 1.5 million worldwide. Dynasty Warriors 6 and 7 sold over 1 million worldwide and Dynasty Warriors 8 has fallen short of 1 million.
This is usually thanks to high sales in Japan. Dynasty Warriors 5 sold 950,000 units, Dynasty Warriors 6 sold ~480,000 and Dynasty Warriors 7 sold 495,000. Hyrule Warriors has failed to take off in Japan only selling less than 120,000 so far. Even though EU and USA is picking up the slack it wont be enough to get to 1 million like Koei wanted.
Hyrule Warriors - 190,000 (8 days) WiiU
Dynasty Warriors 5 - 150,000 (4 months) PS2
Dynasty Warriors 6 - 220,000 (10 months) PS3/360
Dynasty Warriors 7 - 220,000 (9 months) PS3/360
Numbers taken from NPD and Koei.
Dynasty warriors game sales are never front loaded in the USA. The sales are always spread over the year. Hyrule Warriors looks front loaded.
Dynasty Warriors 5 sold over 1.5 million worldwide. Dynasty Warriors 6 and 7 sold over 1 million worldwide and Dynasty Warriors 8 has fallen short of 1 million.
This is usually thanks to high sales in Japan. Dynasty Warriors 5 sold 950,000 units, Dynasty Warriors 6 sold ~480,000 and Dynasty Warriors 7 sold 495,000. Hyrule Warriors has failed to take off in Japan only selling less than 120,000 so far. Even though EU and USA is picking up the slack it wont be enough to get to 1 million like Koei wanted.