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[JadedWriter]

I agree with literally nothing you said, but on this point.

That whole 5 seconds of Kuvira about to kill Korra was genius. The next Avatar would be an Earthbender aka an Earth Empire citizen. Kill the Avatar, find and raise the next one. On the other hand, try to kill the Avatar, get stopped by the airbenders, take the city.

God yes. I freaked the hell out for a second.

I was shocked too. If Kuvira could go avatar state as well, it would a) make the next fight really entertaining and more fair to Kuvira and b) seriously make Korra think about the rights and wrongs of the situation. Shouldn't be able to go like, "I'm the avatar and you gotta deal withit."

 

[Maffis]

Kinda sad that Kuvira got whopped so easily by the avatar state. I just know the final fight will be Korra finally overcoming her fears and then one-shot her.

 

[Mononoke]

Wow look at this swell poster.

lol

Yeah, so I totally get why some don't like Korra as a character. I think the writers made a lot of missteps in this show, and made some pretty poor decisions with how they presented this character. There is nothing wrong with flaws, and struggles, and I think all the plot makes sense. But it's how they chose to present it, that I think really turned off people from her. But after the second half of Season 2, and all of Book 3....I don't get the hate for her. And in terms of her being a "shit" avatar, she's technically done more than any previous Avatar has done in a long time. I just think, in order to make the show seem competitive, they've had to make Korra come down to the level of people that probably shouldn't be on her level. They've made her stumble and be a weak fighter, for the sake of making it a more even leveled conflict vs. and out and out domination of the Avatar.

And to be fair, I think this was a problem they were always going to face. They never had this issue with Aang, since his big battle with the bad guy was always off in the distance. And it was the adventure format where each little side thing, didn't need to be a situation where he had to get bested for it to be a conflict. But now that this show is more centered on a single season conflict and the main protagonist having to clash with that conflict throughout, they've defaulted to a simple narrative structure that requires the protagonist to get bested early on before coming back and winning. Problem is, how do you do that with the Avatar? Well, they've made Korra weak as a fighter (in this case, it was the metal still in her body, and everything else weighing down on her. At least there is an explanation for it).

Kinda sad that Kuvira got whopped so easily by the avatar state. I just know the final fight will be Korra finally overcoming her fears and then one-shot her.

It wasn't even like the Avatar state move that was used, was anything special. Plus, while Kuvira was besting Korra prior to her going into Avatar state...she wasn't exactly destroying her either like she should have (given Korra was really bending very poorly). I still think this fight was kind of poorly handled. It ended up making Kuvira look really weak.

 

[mrjohill]

The first second I saw this, I thought it was Kuvira who somehow had avatar state powers.

Oh man I did too. I had to pause the episode for a second but then I saw the things on her hair. That would have been a great twist

 

[Joeytj]

I already posted most of my reactions last night, so I'll just post my bullet points:

I too was disappointed at first with the fight, but then I took a look at the episode once more and found myself loving it, mostly because I got over this sense of "we're running out of time in the season!" and just enjoyed the episode.

Like you've said Azula, there's not actually anything wrong with each episode in terms of structure and the dialogue in plenty of scenes is great, especially the humor in the last one. "It hurts my eyes, but it's raw emotional power."

It could be better, of course, but I think we were too focused on the battle between Korra and Kuvira for our own good. Which, watching it again, isn't actually that bad (granted, it was frustrating, but that was the point), and was a great parallel to Aang's twice hesitating to take out Ozai during his fight with him.

Also, people on Tumblr are pointing out that Suyin looked terrified when Korra was seemingly about to kill Kuvira, a nice detail.

She doesn't want that apparently, she's still her protegé and almost like a daughter.

I'm not making any points, I just noticed, probably because of the super strong coffee I just drank, but I just found out I liked that episode even more now and can't wait for the rest of the season, LOL.

And to hell with people complaining about Korra "being a weak Avatar" compared to Aang.

 

[JadedWriter]

It wasn't even like the Avatar state move that was used, was anything special. Plus, while Kuvira was besting Korra prior to her going into Avatar state...she wasn't exactly destroying her either like she should have (given Korra was really bending very poorly). I still think this fight was kind of poorly handled. It ended up making Kuvira look really weak.

I think the problem with that is how Kuvira bends. She's not a heavy bruiser type, she's about the finesse. She never really hit Korra with anything heavy. She earth bent like twice proper. once to interrupt one of Korra's punches and again to deliver a body shot. The rest just came from her rag dolling her using the metal bits. If she was bending like Toph, then Korra probably would just be dead. Toph isn't a tiny boulder girl.

 

[Joeytj]

The first second I saw this, I thought it was Kuvira who somehow had avatar state powers.

That moment freaked me out, in a good way. It worked because of "Korra Alone" of course.

 

[Opto]

Korra's awesome, I like her and her story. Eat me.

 

[Gorillaz]

Yea I legit thought she had them avatar powers for a min haha would have been a crazy twist

 

[rexor0717]

Would it not be crazy if Korra extracted Rava and killed her. What would happen then?!?

Like, we know Vatuu is growing inside Rava. Eventually some avatar will have to deal with him again. If she kills Rava, then...I dunno.

Korra's awesome, I like her and her story. Eat me.

Me too! I just think this book has had weird pacing.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Korra's awesome, I like her and her story. Eat me.

why is it people get so defensive like if it were a personal attack.

 

[Veelk]

why is it people get so defensive like if it were a personal attack.

Probably because I go to every Korra's supporter's house and piss on their lawn.

 

[Cloud Strife]

Korra's awesome, I like her and her story. Eat me.

Probably because I go to every Korra's supporter's house and piss on their lawn.

You know what to do, Veelk.

 

[Opto]

why is it people get so defensive like if it were a personal attack.

when I see shit like "she should kill herself" and that barely gets a second glance? Not to mention most of the criticism is often a lack of empathy and is so nitpicky

 

[Mononoke]

Korra's awesome, I like her and her story. Eat me.

I mean, that's fine. I like her too! And I agree, I like her overall story quite a bit. But I think they made some pretty huge missteps in several places. I've gone back and re-watched Book 1 and 2, and Korra really is insufferable. Which sucks, because the plot they wrote actually kind of justifies her behavior/attitude. But it doesn't make her any less likable when you get to those segments.

But as far as I'm concerned, Second half of Book 2 Korra to Book 4 Korra is okay by me. I actually like her a lot. And I like her overall story.

 

[Gorillaz]

You know what to do, Veelk.

Im on mobile but

Spoiler

/avy quote

 

[Trey]

Probably because I go to every Korra's supporter's house and piss on their lawn.

You delinquent. I knew that long ass anonymous letter with the "fuck Arrow" post script was you.

 

[Bit-Bit]

So much whining in this thread from this episode that I honestly think some of you (not all) are just looking for things to nitpick.

Season 3 pacing was too fast? "SLOW DOWN, WE NEED ROOM FOR CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT"

Season 4 pacing is slow for character development? "GOSH JUST HURRY UP WITH THE PLOT THERE'S ONLY A FEW EPISODES LEFT"

And yet this is a really great episode that showed Korra still struggling with her Avatar State. It's the same thing that Aang was afraid of. As awesome as the Avatar State is, it shouldn't be used as the win button because it's incredibly dangerous. You guys saw how as soon as she entered the State, she was about to crush Kuvira with a rock the size of a house? She shouldn't do shit like that. If anything, her hesitation was a good thing.

But noooooo, you all just want her to kick ass now.

I bet if she did just completely win the fight, people would cry about how just an episode ago, she was still struggling internally with being an all powerful fighter and that new Korra wouldn't have fought so hard to handily defeat Kuvira.

*sigh

 

[Veelk]

when I see shit like "she should kill herself" and that barely gets a second glance? Not to mention most of the criticism is often a lack of empathy and is so nitpicky

I don't like Korra, and I hate those 'criticisms' too. A character death rarely ever alieviates the problems people have with a story because the issues are within the writing, and those don't die, they just find a new way to manifest themselves. Besides, just bitterly wishing death does come across as tasteless, to be honest. And it doesn't help that 90% of the time I see this stuff, it's directed towards women. Usually for the simple crime of not being entertaining enough. It's sadism. While thats not wrong in and of itself, you just have to be aware that it's not something you should indulge too often.

Still, there are a lot of arguments to be made of how badly Korra sucks. I don't look forward to the next series, whatever it is, because any good will they had left over from TLA was squandered sometime after season 2. So I'm not waiting for Korra to dieso much as Legend of Korra to end. But I think most of us are fair to Korra. We're just harsh because she....really isn't a very good avatar or character in general.

 

[Mononoke]

So much whining in this thread from this episode that I honestly think some of you (not all) are just looking for things to nitpick.

Season 3 pacing was too fast? "SLOW DOWN, WE NEED ROOM FOR CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT"

Season 4 pacing is slow for character development? "GOSH JUST HURRY UP WITH THE PLOT THERE'S ONLY A FEW EPISODES LEFT"

And yet this is a really great episode that showed Korra still struggling with her Avatar State. It's the same thing that Aang was afraid of. As awesome as the Avatar State is, it shouldn't be used as the win button because it's incredibly dangerous. You guys saw how as soon as she entered the State, she was about to crush Kuvira with a rock the size of a house? She shouldn't do shit like that. If anything, her hesitation was a good thing.

But noooooo, you all just want her to kick ass now.

I bet if she did just completely win the fight, people would cry about how just an episode ago, she was still struggling internally with being an all powerful fighter and that new Korra wouldn't have fought so hard to handily defeat Kuvira.

*sigh

lol but are they really doing character development? I'm not seeing that in this season. So what you have is a slow burner season without them really handling character development. At best, Korra has gotten some. But the way they are handling the plot kind of feels like a re-tread. You can't do slower paced seasons without good character drama.

Anyways, not that many people complained about Book 3. People just said if they would have changed something about it, more character development would have been nice. But even people that felt that way generally loved Book 3. I rarely see anyone that said Book 3 wasn't good front to back.

Lastly, what is so wrong with having criticisms of this show? As long as you can articulate it. Doesn't mean we have to agree. But I don't see why it auto makes someone being nitpicking or whining. I dunno.

 

[KHlover]

lol

Yeah, so I totally get why some don't like Korra as a character. I think the writers made a lot of missteps in this show, and made some pretty poor decisions with how they presented this character. There is nothing wrong with flaws, and struggles, and I think all the plot makes sense. But it's how they chose to present it, that I think really turned off people from her. But after the second half of Season 2, and all of Book 3....I don't get the hate for her. And in terms of her being a "shit" avatar, she's technically done more than any previous Avatar has done in a long time. I just think, in order to make the show seem competitive, they've had to make Korra come down to the level of people that probably shouldn't be on her level. They've made her stumble and be a weak fighter, for the sake of making it a more even leveled conflict vs. and out and out domination of the Avatar.

And to be fair, I think this was a problem they were always going to face. They never had this issue with Aang, since his big battle with the bad guy was always off in the distance. And it was the adventure format where each little side thing, didn't need to be a situation where he had to get bested for it to be a conflict. But now that this show is more centered on a single season conflict and the main protagonist having to clash with that conflict throughout, they've defaulted to a simple narrative structure that requires the protagonist to get bested early on before coming back and winning. Problem is, how do you do that with the Avatar? Well, they've made Korra weak as a fighter (in this case, it was the metal still in her body, and everything else weighing down on her. At least there is an explanation for it).



It wasn't even like the Avatar state move that was used, was anything special. Plus, while Kuvira was besting Korra prior to her going into Avatar state...she wasn't exactly destroying her either like she should have (given Korra was really bending very poorly). I still think this fight was kind of poorly handled. It ended up making Kuvira look really weak.

I agree with most of what you had written before, but how did you come to this conclusion? I don't think it could have been any more obvious that Kuvira just toyed with Korra. She had one of her metal bracelets on Korra just a few seconds after start of the battle, she could have ended it right there. Instead she just took it off and let Korra stumble onwards. She blinded and later even "crucified" Korra. Pure humiliation, nothing else. If anything it shows just how good of a bender Kuvira is.

 

[Mononoke]

I agree with most of what you had written before, but how did you come to this conclusion? I don't think it could have been any more obvious that Kuvira just toyed with Korra. She had one of her metal bracelets on Korra just a few seconds after start of the battle, she could have ended it right there. Instead she just took it off and let Korra stumble onwards. She blinded and later even "crucified" Korra. Pure humiliation, nothing else. If anything it shows just how good of a bender Kuvira is.

I guess we just saw the fight differently. But at least to me, Kuvira has been shown to be a top tier fighter. And the fight to me came off really slow and awkward. And when Korra finally did go into the Avatar State, she only hit Kuvira with a typical gust of wind (it wasn't like anything special). And Kuvira looked really worn out and tired.

But I can see what you are saying about Kuvira purposely messing with Korra, and not going out and just straight up wiping the floor with her. She was savoring the moment of dominating the Avatar in front of everyone. Plus, as a fighter she doesn't 100% know what the Avatar can do, so she's going to be sizing her up as the fight goes on. But I can concede that I'm wrong on Kuvira being weak.

After Korra hit Kuvira with that wind, Kuvira looked done for. Like that was it, that was the fight. And that is kind of what I was talking about it kind of making her look weak, when she should have been able to handle Korra a lot more (but I guess your point about purposely not destroying her explains that).

 

[Bit-Bit]

lol but are they really doing character development? I'm not seeing that in this season. So what you have is a slow burner season without them really handling character development. At best, Korra has gotten some. But the way they are handling the plot kind of feels like a re-tread.

Starting with Korra Alone all the way up to this episode, I see a Korra who is looking for alternative ways to solve her problems. I saw a Korra who went back to the Tree of Time to meditate (season 1 korra would have laughed at that shit). I see a Korra who yells at Katara out of frustration but immediately apologizes. I see a Korra still not understanding the full situation so is willing to stop and think before she charges head first into a fight (although Su was the one who fucked up that situation).

Again, this is all a continuation of her character from the second half of Season 2. When this is all said and done, I'll do a massive write-up on Korra's personality and her decisions throughout all 4 books. But already, I'm seeing the type of Avatar she is becoming and I'm happy for that.

 

[Mononoke]

Starting with Korra Alone all the way up to this episode, I see a Korra who is looking for alternative ways to solve her problems. I saw a Korra who went back to the Tree of Time to meditate (season 1 korra would have laughed at that shit). I see a Korra who yells at Katara out of frustration but immediately apologizes. I see a Korra still not understanding the full situation so is willing to stop and think before she charges head first into a fight (although Su was the one who fucked up that situation).

Again, this is all a continuation of her character from the second half of Season 2. When this is all said and done, I'll do a massive write-up on Korra's personality and her decisions throughout all 4 books. But already, I'm seeing the type of Avatar she is becoming and I'm happy for that.

I can agree with you there. But they aren't really doing it with the other characters. Which I think is the problem. You have them sort of only half-focusing on Korra development, while slowly moving the plot for the other parts, and the other characters kind of just running around with not that much character development.

Apart of me kind of wishes they would just have focused solely on Korra and making her thematic/character growth stuff a little more powerful. But it looks like they are trying to balance the main conflict plot with Korra's character growth plot. And we'll end up getting her character stuff drawn out a little longer for 2-3 episodes.

I'm kind of torn. Because I actually really like the plot they are doing with Korra. I like that she's trying to view her past actions as...not the best. That she's trying to learn, and understand what she did wrong. That she's struggling for relevancy. All of that is great. I just wonder if they are doing their best to balance that out with the rest of the stuff.

Some would say yes! And that's great. I'm not as thrilled with the season as much as I would like to be. I still feel like it's really slow, and we are already at the half way point. Knowing Korra will be spending 2-3 more episodes re-visiting what the first 4 episodes about, kind of worries me.

But on the other hand, if they do nail her character stuff, it could be a fantastic set up for the final run of episodes. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it plays you, ya know? I dunno. I don't mean to whine or nitpick or any of that. I'm just saying how I feel about it. To be clear, I do think these episodes have all been good in their own right. And I think that matters.

Anyways, I think generally everyone here likes this season. Even those that are kind of iffy on how they are approaching the story. I'm sorry if criticisms or whatever gets tiring and feels negative. Definitely not what I want to happen. But on the plus side, at least we are having discussions vs. tumblr/shipping bullshit.

 

[MartyStu]

Kuvira is ridiculously capable. Both as a bender and as a schemer.

The writing here was much better, but I hate that we again hit the same beats as previous episodes.

This feels much like Bolin's metalbending arc in that way (the clunkiest arc in the third season).

I still really like this season. It is much worse than Season 3, but no where near as poor as Season 2.

 

[JadedWriter]

I guess we just saw the fight differently. But at least to me, Kuvira has been shown to be a top tier fighter. And the fight to me came off really slow and awkward. And when Korra finally did go into the Avatar State, she only hit Kuvira with a typical gust of wind (it wasn't like anything special). And Kuvira looked really worn out and tired.

But I can see what you are saying about Kuvira purposely messing with Korra, and not going out and just straight up wiping the floor with her. She was savoring the moment of dominating the Avatar in front of everyone. Plus, as a fighter she doesn't 100% know what the Avatar can do, so she's going to be sizing her up as the fight goes on. But I can concede that I'm wrong on Kuvira being weak.

After Korra hit Kuvira with that wind, Kuvira looked done for. Like that was it, that was the fight. And that is kind of what I was talking about it kind of making her look weak, when she should have been able to handle Korra a lot more (but I guess your point about purposely not destroying her explains that).

Kuvira got hit with avatar state enhanced wind, that's no joke, you don't just tank that hit. I honestly think she was just toying with Korra and having fun demoralizing her. She enjoyed it. Probably the most fun she had all year. The only thing higher on her list would probably trash talking Su during a fight while mopping the floor with her.

 

[Mononoke]

Kuvira is ridiculously capable. Both as a bender and as a schemer.

The writing here was much better, but I hate that we again hit the same beats as previous episodes.

This feels much like Bolin's metalbending arc in that way (the clunkiest arc in the third season).

I still really like this season. It is much worse than Season 3, but no where near as poor as Season 2.

I think what it comes down to, is whether you feel that Kuvira/and her plot is moving along in a good pace, and if you find it compelling. Some think it is, and so they are loving this season so far.

I agree with you though about story beats, and this kind of filling a bit too formulaic. It's kind of like what I said earlier. But I wish they would taken some risk here. We know Korra can't beat Kuvira this early on. But we also already spent 4 episodes focusing on her being broken and training to get better. And the Kuvira plot ( IMO subjectively of course, has been moving painfully slow)...and so it's just kind of disappointing to follow the same story beat of the hero getting bested, and falling back on her ass. It's to be expected, but I think they could have done it differently (ie. Korra and Kuvira both wounding each other, the fight being interrupted before it could be finished etc.).

I think Korra's demons and struggling for relevancy would dog her anyways as she doesn't know what her role is in all of this, or how to really solve it (physically stopping Kuvira doesn't solve the problem). So I guess I don't really feel like they needed to bring Korra back to being physically weak, when I think she already is weak with the other stuff (and that conflict).

Kuvira got hit with avatar state enhanced wind, that's no joke, you don't just tank that hit. I honestly think she was just toying with Korra and having fun demoralizing her. She enjoyed it. Probably the most fun she had all year. The only thing higher on her list would probably trash talking Su during a fight while mopping the floor with her.

Fair enough. I still think the fight was pretty lame, and not all that fun to watch. Physically it was meh. But from a plot perspective it makes sense. I won't argue against that anymore. So good stuff. I'll concede I was wrong. I would say, I guess my issue with the fight is kind of a bigger one (just about the overall pacing of the show, as I said in my post above about thinking they could have done something else -- vs Korra having to revert back to being physically broken).

 

[Bit-Bit]

What if Season 3 and Season 4 swapped and the show ended with the final shot from season 3?

That'd be some crazy and ballsy shit right there.

 

[Perfect Cha0s]

In a way I feel like they might be overcompensating for the complaint that the show moved too quickly, which stifled proper development. Now it feels pretty slow, but I don't really think we're getting enough development to make it satisfying.

 

[KHlover]

What if Season 3 and Season 4 swapped and the show ended with the final shot from season 3?

That'd be some crazy and ballsy shit right there.

The power of the explosion of all spirit vines simultaneously rips a hole in the space-time kontinuum and Korra wakes up in her crippled body?

I don't see another solution for that idea without creating a time paradox

 

[Veelk]

The biggest problem regarding Korra's failure here is that I think we feel a bit tricked as the audience.

We spent 4 episodes with Korra wangsting her way back to being the avatar, and it was all built up to the metalbending scene. At that point, Korra had traveled the world searching for answers, met Toph and learned from her, she looked back at her opponents and let go of her fears, and finally faced the ultimate challenge herself and bended out the remaining metal within her.

And this episode is just going "NOPE! That whole thing isn't actually resolved yet, we bullshitted you."

And we have no real hint of what could still be the cause other than general insecurity. So it comes out of left field here. This was supposed to be an awesome moment for Korra. Instead, she negotiates without actually knowing what the term means and then fails at a fight she ought to ahve in the bag.

 

[Mononoke]

What if Season 3 and Season 4 swapped and the show ended with the final shot from season 3?

That'd be some crazy and ballsy shit right there.

That would be a harsh as hell ending, right? Damn. I kind of wish that Book 2 w/ harmonic convergence was the final season (Book 4). I mean, you really don't get more epic then that. That plot is so important in the overall mythology of the show, and is far more important than anything in ATLA.

The biggest problem regarding Korra's failure here is that I think we feel a bit tricked as the audience.

We spent 4 episodes with Korra wangsting her way back to being the avatar, and it was all built up to the metalbending scene. At that point, Korra had traveled the world searching for answers, met Toph and learned from her, she looked back at her opponents and let go of her fears, and finally faced the ultimate challenge herself and bended out the remaining metal within her.

And this episode is just going "NOPE! That whole thing isn't actually resolved yet, we bullshitted you."

And we have no real hint of what could still be the cause other than general insecurity. So it comes out of left field here. This was supposed to be an awesome moment for Korra. Instead, she negotiates without actually knowing what the term means and then fails at a fight she ought to ahve in the bag.

Pretty much, that + it overall just feeling slow too. Kind of just feels like...oh boy, so we are back to spending 2-3 episodes on this eh? I am torn though, as I said I actually like this character development. Just not entirely a fan of how they are going about doing all this.

I didn't even have that much of an issue with Book 3 moving that fast. I mean, if there was any problem, it was that they have too many characters and too many side plots competing. So they didn't have enough time to deal with it all. That was an issue of writing too much, and not focusing on what needed to be focused on.

 

[Trey]

I like Korra. She's still probably my favorite character all things considered. Could have definitely handled her better.

 

[-Deimos]

The biggest problem regarding Korra's failure here is that I think we feel a bit tricked as the audience.

We spent 4 episodes with Korra wangsting her way back to being the avatar, and it was all built up to the metalbending scene. At that point, Korra had traveled the world searching for answers, met Toph and learned from her, she looked back at her opponents and let go of her fears, and finally faced the ultimate challenge herself and bended out the remaining metal within her.

And this episode is just going "NOPE! That whole thing isn't actually resolved yet, we bullshitted you."

And we have no real hint of what could still be the cause other than general insecurity. So it comes out of left field here. This was supposed to be an awesome moment for Korra. Instead, she negotiates without actually knowing what the term means and then fails at a fight she ought to ahve in the bag.

I can agree with this. Everything Korra accomplished this season went out the window in this episode.

 

[KHlover]

That would be a harsh as hell ending, right? Damn. I kind of wish that Book 2 w/ harmonic convergence was the final season (Book 4). I mean, you really don't get more epic then that. That plot is so important in the overall mythology of the show, and is far more important than anything in ATLA.

> Baatar Jr. finds a way to extract the energy of the spirit vines in a stable form
> Injects Kuvira with that shit
> Fake Avatar State
> Kuvira beats Korra up again, the reborn Vaatu inside Korra/Rava is attracted by the huge amount of Spirit Energy and ripped out of Korra
> Chooses Kuvira as new host
> Pacific Rim 2.0

 

[Bit-Bit]

> Baatar Jr. finds a way to extract the energy of the spirit vines in a stable form
> Injects Kuvira with that shit
> Fake Avatar State
> Kuvira beats Korra up again, the reborn Vaatu inside Korra/Rava is attracted by the huge amount of Spirit Energy and ripped out of Korra
> Chooses Kuvira as new host
> Pacific Rim 2.0

I'd pay to watch that.

 

[Cloud Strife]

> Baatar Jr. finds a way to extract the energy of the spirit vines in a stable form
> Injects Kuvira with that shit
> Fake Avatar State
> Kuvira beats Korra up again, the reborn Vaatu inside Korra/Rava is attracted by the huge amount of Spirit Energy and ripped out of Korra
> Chooses Kuvira as new host
> Pacific Rim 2.0

Wait, who's drift compatible?

 

[Mononoke]

I like Korra. She's still probably my favorite character all things considered. Coulda have definitely handled her better.

I like Korra more than Aang *gasp* But I still found Aang's story a bit more enjoyable. Like as a protagonist, I like him more. But that more has to do with how the story was told. But as a character character, I think I relate more to Korra, and her struggles. And think she's a better character in all those regards.

Korra isn't as good as Azula for me though. (Obviously).

 

[JadedWriter]

Fair enough. I still think the fight was pretty lame, and not all that fun to watch. Physically it was meh. But from a plot perspective it makes sense. I won't argue against that anymore. So good stuff. I'll concede I was wrong. I would say, I guess my issue with the fight is kind of a bigger one (just about the overall pacing of the show, as I said in my post above about thinking they could have done something else -- vs Korra having to revert back to being physically broken).

I think the fight just shows how different those two go about fighting. Kuvira isn't a heavy bruiser. She pretty much just read Korra and used Korra's movements and lack of thinking to beat herself. You could tell Kuvira was thinking several moves ahead and just read Korra's movements to set up the counterattacks, which also pissed Korra off, which made her make more mistakes. Pretty much once you saw Kuvira spin Korra around mid fireball you knew the fight was already over. It was a thinking fight and showed Korra's greatest flaw. She brute forces her fights, she doesn't plan well. Kuvira knows what her strength is. She's agile as hell, light on her feet and plans her movements. She danced around Korra and let her tire herself out. I know this is scrub tier Korra, but none of her opponents made her look that bad.

 

[Chariot]

> Baatar Jr. finds a way to extract the energy of the spirit vines in a stable form
> Injects Kuvira with that shit
> Fake Avatar State
> Kuvira beats Korra up again, the reborn Vaatu inside Korra/Rava is attracted by the huge amount of Spirit Energy and ripped out of Korra
> Chooses Kuvira as new host
> Pacific Rim 2.0

Let's make her Korra's aunt, just for the heck of it.

 

[Astral Dog]

Whats going to happen to Baatar Jr.?
Is he going to be killed by Kuvira when is no longer useful? Is he going to betray her when she goes too far? Is he ever going to apologize to his family? Maybe end up in Jail? Killed by Varrick,Zhu Li or Opal? Commit suicide with Kuvira? Killed by the spirit bomb?

 

[shira]

> Baatar Jr. finds a way to extract the energy of the spirit vines in a stable form
> Injects Kuvira with that shit
> Fake Avatar State
> Kuvira beats Korra up again, the reborn Vaatu inside Korra/Rava is attracted by the huge amount of Spirit Energy and ripped out of Korra
> Chooses Kuvira as new host
> Pacific Rim 2.0

I'd prefer she have a shadow child like Mellisandre

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Wait, who's drift compatible?

Varrick and Bolin.


Mako and the Prince.

Pabu and Naga.

Whats going to happen to Baatar Jr.?
Is he going to be killed by Kuvira when is no longer useful? Is he going to betray her when she goes too far? Is he ever going to apologize to his family? Maybe end up in Jail? Killed by Varrick,Zhu Li or Opal? Commit suicide with Kuvira? Killed by the spirit bomb?

Kuvira doesn't love him. So he'll be heartbroken and try to save his family.

 

[KHlover]

Let's make her Korra's aunt, just for the heck of it.

Is this a reference I am missing? I'll have to admit I've never seen anything from Pacific Rim besides the trailers. It's just that the words "Pacific Rim" were thrown around A LOT during Season 2 finale

Whats going to happen to Baatar Jr.?
Is he going to be killed by Kuvira when is no longer useful? Is he going to betray her when she goes too far? Is he ever going to apologize to his family? Maybe end up in Jail? Killed by Varrick,Zhu Li or Opal? Commit suicide with Kuvira? Killed by the spirit bomb?

Bataar should rot in hell for what he did, but I think he'll get the Percy Weasley treatment in the end. Although I'd love it if Zhu Li killed him for letting Varrick "die".

Death by snu snuOh, that with the aunt is because of Unalaq who is actually Korras uncle. Few know that he is anything more than evil.

Instead of Pacifc Rim every other monster or mecha movie would do. It's just that it's probably the least obscure.

That was...pretty obvious. Shame on me for missing this reference lol

 

[Chariot]

Whats going to happen to Baatar Jr.?
Is he going to be killed by Kuvira when is no longer useful? Is he going to betray her when she goes too far? Is he ever going to apologize to his family? Maybe end up in Jail? Killed by Varrick,Zhu Li or Opal? Commit suicide with Kuvira? Killed by the spirit bomb?

Death by snu snu

Is this a reference I am missing? I'll have to admit I've never seen anything from Pacific Rim besides the trailers. It's just that the words "Pacific Rim" were thrown around A LOT during Season 2 finale

Oh, that with the aunt is because of Unalaq who is actually Korras uncle. Few know that he is anything more than evil.

Instead of Pacifc Rim every other monster or mecha movie would do. It's just that it's probably the least obscure.

 

[SilentMatthew]

What if Season 3 and Season 4 swapped and the show ended with the final shot from season 3?

That'd be some crazy and ballsy shit right there.

That'll be pretty great, in that what if Seasons 1 and 2 should probably mix together. Altogether having a decent villain and relevancy toward the later seasons. Probably should lay on thick on her wanting to break out of her cage (e.g. Kurvia) and pursing her dream of being a great avatar. Then in the end, wounds up crippled, questioning her identity and existence as the world goes on without her. Credits. The end. So good.

 

[Mononoke]

Death by snu snuOh, that with the aunt is because of Unalaq who is actually Korras uncle. Few know that he is anything more than evil.

Instead of Pacifc Rim every other monster or mecha movie would do. It's just that it's probably the least obscure.

Ayo Chariot, you ready to take your L for Opal being evil?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Somebody give him an Avatar with Opal as like an angel. Like saving two puppies.

 

[Toa TAK]

Take it like a man, Chariot.

 

[KarmaCow]

An interesting fight with Kuvira doing something more creative than force push rocks around, but then they cheap out on the animation budget. What a shame.