Yeah, see I agree with you. I think the Korra plot should have been done a little differently. I think her getting the metal out, or having finished her training later with Toph (with more focus on the training, or her getting the metal out) -- would have been for a better plot pacing. I even think the way they handled it initially was strange. Like how it bounced around from the various side plots. The problem was, the scenes with her and Toph always kind of felt a tad short for me. Like, her training and her over coming her demons should have had more focus and more power to it. Of course, now we know it's because she didn't really solve her demons. But then it's like, well then why even have the training plot the way it was done in the first place? (It being the focus of 4 episodes, while the other stuff kind of got crammed in, in the background).
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Yeah, see I agree with you. I think the Korra plot should have been done a little differently. I think her getting the metal out, or having finished her training later with Toph (with more focus on the training, or her getting the metal out) -- would have been for a better plot pacing. I even think the way they handled it initially was strange. Like how it bounced around from the various side plots. The problem was, the scenes with her and Toph always kind of felt a tad short for me. Like, her training and her over coming her demons should have had more focus and more power to it. Of course, now we know it's because she didn't really solve her demons. But then it's like, well then why even have the training plot the way it was done in the first place? (It being the focus of 4 episodes, while the other stuff kind of got crammed in, in the background).
JadedWriter
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And then he went surfing.
Anyone that says Korra is the worst Avatar, must not know about Kuruk.
At least he got to meet a cool spirit that him and his girlfriend had a great time with :^).
JadedWriter
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I always liken Kuruk to South Parks impression of Russell Crowe.
Of course they don't. We know a single thing about him, his one fuck up. I don't consider that we have enough info on Kyoshi to really judge her in a significant way, and we know even less about Kuruk. Imagine if we only heard that Aang ran away from the fire lord and was a pacifist who refused to harm others.
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This show better feature a platinum vine-energy-powered flying exo-suit piloted by Varrick in the near feature.
Well, they did say he just "went with the flow"...it's kind of implied he did nothing during his term as Avatar. That said, I guess that doesn't really tell us much in terms of, did bad things happen because he didn't do his job as Avatar?
Could the world have been better off, had he used his time to shape it, or bring balance? I just consider him the worst because lol he pretty much did nothing, and died early after his fiance had her face taken from Koh. Pretty lol
Or maybe he was a taoist kind of Avatar that just did things as they came, without making any sort of big plan (like plotting out republic city like aang would have to have done).
I just don't like the idea that you can summarize a persons life, not just in stories but in real life. If summaries were all that was necessary, reading TLA's wikipedia page would be equivalent to watching the series and it's not.
Like you said, we have no idea what the context of his life is. Even if he did absolutely nothing, it might have been the best thing he could have done as the avatar. Who knows? We'd have to see his story first hand.
Certainly possible. I only assumed he was bad, since they kind of used him as an example of failure. Like in the segment, he was telling Aang about Avatar's with flaws, where they didn't do something, and how it later gets passed on to future Avatars such as himself.
Toph said Korra is the worst Avatar ever so I consider it as a fact
Upon re-watch, I REALLY like this episode. Definitely my favorite this season.
Only three things wrong:
1) - The scene wherein Korra accepts to fight Kuvira is silly. Kuvira even offering is silly, but Korra just accepting with no complaint is sillier. That scene could have been easily fixed. Just different inflections alone would have made a massive difference. I like the fight itself though.
2) - Korra's inability to fight effectively feels like a re-tread. Without the swamp episodes, this would have worked much better. With that said, I think the approach the writers are taking is a very good one. Korra's recovery is not physical. At least not entirely. We assumed removing the metal signified Korra resolving her internal conflicts, but we have seen no such thing. I think the intention is to actually have Korra's return to fighting shape accompany whatever epiphany the writers are working toward.
3) - Everyone telling Korra to enter the Avatar State is annoying. So very annoying.
Other than these, the episode is very enjoyable. While extended perhaps a bit too far, Korra's continued losing streak still mostly makes sense, so I am okay with it,
Only three things wrong:
1) - The scene wherein Korra accepts to fight Kuvira is silly. Kuvira even offering is silly, but Korra just accepting with no complaint is sillier. That scene could have been easily fixed. Just different inflections alone would have made a massive difference. I like the fight itself though.
2) - Korra's inability to fight effectively feels like a re-tread. Without the swamp episodes, this would have worked much better. With that said, I think the approach the writers are taking is a very good one. Korra's recovery is not physical. At least not entirely. We assumed removing the metal signified Korra resolving her internal conflicts, but we have seen no such thing. I think the intention is to actually have Korra's return to fighting shape accompany whatever epiphany the writers are working toward.
3) - Everyone telling Korra to enter the Avatar State is annoying. So very annoying.
Other than these, the episode is very enjoyable. While extended perhaps a bit too far, Korra's continued losing streak still mostly makes sense, so I am okay with it,
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He went from island to island with his talking surfboard to fight in bars.
True. As I said, I just don't think that's all that should be said about any person, their failures. Besides, not all failures are truly failures, even if we don't realize it. But Kuruk wouldn't have lead a perfect life, that's for sure.
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This episode was fairly meh.
The Kuvira vs Korra fight was entirely predictable. Kuvira just does NOT seem like an opponent that should be giving Korra this much trouble. Yeah yeah, poison yadda yadda, but it just doesn't seem that believable. Dunno, the fight just seemed...strange?
The Varrick scenes were pure gold though. I love that guy.
The Kuvira vs Korra fight was entirely predictable. Kuvira just does NOT seem like an opponent that should be giving Korra this much trouble. Yeah yeah, poison yadda yadda, but it just doesn't seem that believable. Dunno, the fight just seemed...strange?
The Varrick scenes were pure gold though. I love that guy.
I feel like one can view his life as romantic and carefree. We know he had a peace time thanks to Yang Chan. And we know he died for the one he loved. That's a pretty romantic life in my eyes.
Varrick is the true hero of this season. I can't wait to see him do more stuff. I hope him and Bolin continue their partnership.
Although something tells me Team Avatar is going to reunite, and Varrick will be swept off screen for most of the season.
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Something important that many people seem to be missing:
Where was this fight? What is Kuvira's element? What is Korra's best element? If there was water, Kuvira would be a corpse.
JadedWriter
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Have Kuvira and Bataar ever called each other by their actual names? It's just something I was noticing on my rewatch of this episode.
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Isn't it fire? She always defaults to fire or earth anyway right?
lol she doesn't know his name and is actively avoiding having to use it.
I feel like she has the most screen time firebending overall. All she did was throw thin fireballs at her, never trying anything else.
nah, she only lost because there were no mountains to be thrown around
WrenchNinja
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Korra always defaults to fire. After Book 1 she alternates with Air.
JadedWriter
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I don't think the water tribe gives birth to fire benders.
WrenchNinja
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As the Avatar, what we've seen in the show, she's mostly used firebending in combat. Not her natural element water. That's what he means by default.
JadedWriter
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Ok thanks for the clarification. She really hasn't been a heavy water user since like book 2 it feels like.
Nope. She didn't even use water in that fight. She's more suited to fire because of her angry personality.
I guess her excuse is that she was aware that she was the Avatar at a young age so she didn't put much studying unto her birthday element unlike Aang who found out AFTER he had already mastered air.
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Or there just isn't much water around often and she doesn't carry a skin to hold any. Plus it doesn't really fit her style.
JadedWriter
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Why does Korra always fight people that are more proficient benders than her? I wouldn't even call her a better bender than Zaheer, just more experienced at it.
But holding the skin is part of the water bender culture.
xBladeM6x
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Man, I've been loving this season, and for me this episode was great. Also, Varrick and Bolin were awesome. I like that Kuvira kept kicking Korra's ass with that bondage bending. Simple, yet effective. Also I'll call it now and say that the "I'm so disappointed in you" line is going to haunt his son later on and turn him against Kuvira.
JadedWriter
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I'm actually not even sure it's that simple to do, especially during close quarters. She just makes it look easy. She has very fancy footwork too, it was rather fun watching her move around since she never stumbled.
Yeah, the whole fight with Kuvira was dumb aka Korra is the worst avatar ever.
The scene with her getting rid of the rest of the metal should have been after this fight. It really doesn't make sense as it is, unless they're going to give Korra a second reason to be afraid of fighting, which is just not interesting. Ugh.
My man Bolin though.
The scene with her getting rid of the rest of the metal should have been after this fight. It really doesn't make sense as it is, unless they're going to give Korra a second reason to be afraid of fighting, which is just not interesting. Ugh.
My man Bolin though.
Hahaha yeah that's an excellent point.
all this korrahate *shakeshead*
was a good episode.
only thing that irritates me is that kuvira was trying to kill korra and not just win the fight.
after thinking about it i came to the conclusion she probably wants to get her hands on the new avatar. (the newborn avatar would be an earthbender or am i forgeting something?)
was a good episode.
only thing that irritates me is that kuvira was trying to kill korra and not just win the fight.
after thinking about it i came to the conclusion she probably wants to get her hands on the new avatar. (the newborn avatar would be an earthbender or am i forgeting something?)
WrenchNinja
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You don't need to have a curb stomp battle in either direction. It could have been mostly even with Kuvira getting the upper hand in the end. We've been watching Korra get beaten up like a ragdoll for five episodes now. It's boring.
The whole strawmanning thing that people also do to deflect criticism is also boring.
I think most can agree the fight made sense. Either people liked or disliked it based on how they view the overall plot.
lol, sometimes I feel like this show is above criticism from some folks. Like any kind of criticism is [insert whatever excuse to reduce it to whining]. Which is strange, because Bryke will admit they have made some mistakes. That said, I can agree there will be some fans can never be pleased. I just kind of hate the idea that, any criticism is automatically labeled as that. I mean, I would say anyone that has had issues with this show on here, has also loved things about the show. So it's not like the show can never please people. It can.
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I agree with the opinions that Korra's battle felt like a retread. Every season we had a battle with the main antagonist, and every time Korra jobbed like an beginner. And this time it felt like an Avatar should have stood her ground against Kuvira, it didn't felt as big as difference as other times.
Their excuse - I suppose - is her weakened mental state, something it's going to be resolved at the end of the season. And of course, Kuvira is going full muahaha and will attack Republic City with her mass weapon. Neverless, disregarding the somewhat boring fight, the episode was good. Varrick and his machinations were the star of the show. I thought that he was bluffing, but I liked to see I was proved wrong.
Considering how he thought so much about Zhu Li, and her probable long play with Kuvira, their reunion will be important to the main plot.
Their excuse - I suppose - is her weakened mental state, something it's going to be resolved at the end of the season. And of course, Kuvira is going full muahaha and will attack Republic City with her mass weapon. Neverless, disregarding the somewhat boring fight, the episode was good. Varrick and his machinations were the star of the show. I thought that he was bluffing, but I liked to see I was proved wrong.
Considering how he thought so much about Zhu Li, and her probable long play with Kuvira, their reunion will be important to the main plot.
Icyflamez96
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I just wish it wouldn't have been that much of an embarrassment. I knew she would lose, but that was hard to watch.
I'm telling you all.
Korra only bends ONE element.
JadedWriter
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She elbow bends to throw those half ass punches.
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