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[Trey]

I liked the fight. It was functional. Showed exactly what it needed to. The largest problem for a lot of people is that it retreads some ground, but I think it's important to show just how not ready for Kuvira Korra is right now. And it did so in the choreography well.

I get how that's boring.

 

[Mononoke]

I liked the fight. It was functional. Showed exactly what it needed to. The largest problem for a lot of people is that it retreads some ground, but I think it's important to show just how not ready for Kuvira Korra is right now. And it did so in the choreography well.

I get how that's boring.

It's only bad in context of the rest of this season moving slow as potatoes and molasses. Physically the fight can be explained. It's just not the fight that was needed. Also Kuvira low tier villain now. Will be beat by a single avatar state gust of wind.

Can't wait for Korra to get healthy so in the finale she just blows a single gust of wind and ends all this non sense.

 

[Trey]

I think if you think of the Avatar state as the real villain of the season, things might become a bit better to you.

 

[Toa TAK]

Also Kuvira low tier villain now. Will be beat by a single avatar state gust of wind.

Physically shaking.

 

[Mononoke]

I think if you think of the Avatar state as the real villain of the season, things might become a bit better to you.

Korra being her own enemy has been done over and over. I'm okay with it being the end game plot. But the season is still boring so far and moving too slow.

 

[Magwik]

I liked the fight. It was functional. Showed exactly what it needed to. The largest problem for a lot of people is that it retreads some ground, but I think it's important to show just how not ready for Kuvira Korra is right now. And it did so in the choreography well.

I get how that's boring.

I understand it's important but did we really need another season of
"Korra isn't ready for ___, gets wrecked and spends next episodes training and recovering to full strength" especially when the first few episodes of the season were already dedicated to Korra's recovery.

 

[Trey]

Korra being her own enemy has been done over and over. I'm okay with it being the end game plot. But the season is still boring so far and moving too slow.

It has only been done a few times in season 3, and it's the major theme of season 4. But it's the particular part of her that's bothersome: the Avatar state. And how long has the AS been a sore spot of the entire franchise? They've been writing around it since Aang went super saiyan at the southern air temple.

 

[Winterfang]

Man Korra sucks freaking ass.

Edit: at fighting.

 

[Hamlet]

The mech fight was better.

It was a pretty fun fight seeing Bolin use the lavabending to take out the mecha tanks and Zhu Li showing off her battle prowess.
Still none of that compares to where Book 3 was at this point during the season with its fight scenes. Book 3 really spoilt us with its fight scenes as we had one fantastic one after another.
-We had the cool prison escapes
-Korra and Asami vs the Mad Max bikers
-Krew vs Dai Li
-Zaheer vs Kya
All this by episode 6.

 

[Mononoke]

It has only been done a few times in season 3, and it's the major theme of season 4. But it's the particular part of her that's bothersome: the Avatar state. And how long has the AS been a sore spot of the entire franchise? They've been writing around it since Aang went super saiyan at the southern air temple.

Maybe as a main theme. But in terms of plot structure, Korra has almost always been her own enemy. And they have followed this over and over every season. These story beats are pretty typical by now. So yeah,while this season is putting a main emphasis on directly acknowledging this, I'm not seeing how this season is any different. Really. It's not. Korra losing to Kuvira at this point in the story is the same shit.

The only benefit it has now, is that at least there is something major backing it up (ie. the theme of her being her own enemy). Doesn't make the plot/pacing any more compelling. Bryke can do better.

 

[That Dude John]

This is great

Expected Patrick reference. I am pleased.

 

[Hamlet]

Almost finished now. I really do hope they absolutely nail the second half of Book 4.

Heading to studio Mir in Seoul with Bryan K. for the week to work on the finale episodes. What we’ve seen so far looks incredible! #vscocam #squaready

Michael Dante Dimartino

 

[Mononoke]

Almost finished now. I really do hope they absolutely nail the second half of Book 4.




Michael Dante Dimartino

Dat single gust of wind is going to need a lot of rendering and production value.

 

[Trey]

Maybe as a main theme. But in terms of plot structure, Korra has almost always been her own enemy. And they have followed this over and over every season. These story beats are pretty typical by now. So yeah,while this season is putting a main emphasis on directly acknowledging this, I'm not seeing how this season is any different. Really. It's not. Korra losing to Kuvira at this point in the story is the same shit.

The only benefit it has now, is that at least there is something major backing it up (ie. the theme of her being her own enemy). Doesn't make the plot/pacing any more compelling. Bryke can do better.

Of course they can do better. It's why the Legend of Korra is so frustrating at times. The potential was there. But it's a dead point, one that we've went over plenty of times, and will go over plenty of times during our retrospective period for the show.

Yet and still, this is the first time the writers are addressing the avatar state head on. That has me excited, at the very least.

Because, as always, General Fong was right.

 

[360pages]

This season feels not only samey, but samey in the bad way. Every season/ Story arc should have a different feel in a way the characters should learn something different and different things should happen to place the character in different situations.

Even Part 1 of Naruto understood that, and as a result each story arc felt vastly different from the last.

Korra on the other hand, Season 1...I'm actually not sure what was actually gained, Korra and friends won, but we never actually learned how non-benders felt and that side of the plot ended. Season 2 even shows that Korra didn't learn anything from the first season, no one did. So what was even the point.

Season 2 is like they took the worst parts of season 1, and added a bunch of spirit stuff in it while changing the back drop to the south pole once or twice.

Season 3 was the first season that felt different, the characters were doing different things and were in different situations, it was a breath of fresh air and the ending made you excited for season 4

Season 4, feels like they were hitting story beats that probably should have happened in season 2. While dragging them out or placing thing in a really dumb order. Remember people, we only have 6-7 ep left before this season is done. Yet Korra actually feels further away from her goal than 2 EP ago.

 

[Hamlet]

Dat single gust of wind is going to need a lot of rendering and production value.

Ha ha

 

[Infinite Justice]

So the one thing she could usually use as some type of positive (YMMV) is also being taken from her? LOL

 

[ShockingAlberto]

It's always surprising when I enjoy an episode, then come here to talk about it and it's wall-to-wall negativity.

Not saying it's wrong, people can feel however they like, just surprising.

 

[Icyflamez96]

 

[Mononoke]

It's always surprising when I enjoy an episode, then come here to talk about it and it's wall-to-wall negativity.

Not saying it's wrong, people can feel however they like, just surprising.

I enjoyed the episode. Sorry if so much of the talk is negative. I think, a lot of people (such as myself) just have issues with the overall season (and how the story is being told). But I think every episode so far has been great individually.

I think we've kind of beat things into the ground. So probably time to stop talking about it (at least for this episode), as it becomes a bit much. My deepest apologies. On the plus side, I look forward to how they plan to deal with Korra's demons. I actually do find her plot interesting. And think it's a good way to end the series (as it's always been something that has haunted her even back in Book 1, although more so under the surface).

 

[Icyflamez96]

wow gif didn't even load so this is a trash post

 

[Chariot]

wow gif didn't even load so this is a trash post

lol, I looked at the url, you just made a mistake. ending was .gifv instead of .gif

 

[Mononoke]

lol, I looked at the url, you just made a mistake. ending was .gifv instead of .gif

I must have missed it, but why are you upside down?

 

[Chariot]

I must have missed it, but why are you upside down?

It's the flip age, with this I can honour Arrow and Korra- two shows I watch and mostly complain about.

...

I should get a Person of Interest avatar if I'm not losing the bet.

 

[Toa TAK]

It's the flip age, with this I can honour Arrow and Korra- two shows I watch and mostly complain about.

...

I should get a Person of Interest avatar if I'm not losing the bet.

But you ARE losibg the bet. Can't you see you fight a lost cause?

 

[Chariot]

But you ARE losibg the bet. Can't you see you fight a lost cause?

Please, I am german. We would neither won World War I nor World War II if we just gave up at the first difficulty. Gotta learn from history, brah.

 

[Chezzymann]

Why don't earth benders ever surf on rocks so they can fly too

Spoiler

or do they?

 

[JadedWriter]

The mech fight was better.

That mech fight music was fucking awesome.

 

[Toa TAK]

Please, I am german. We would neither won World War I nor World War II if we just gave up at the first difficulty. Gotta learn from history, brah.

German, huh? You should doubly love Kuvira.

Also, have you ventured in the Nicki Minaj thread?

That mech fight music was fucking awesome.

Damn straight. Fuck I need that soundtrack.

 

[JadedWriter]

German, huh? You should doubly love Kuvira.

Also, have you ventured in the Nicki Minaj thread?

Damn straight. Fuck I need that soundtrack.

From what I recall chariot is from Belgium. Not everyone from there loves a fascist.

 

[Toa TAK]

From what I recall chariot is from Belgium. Not everyone from there loves a fascist.

I dunno, they did have the Rexist party.

 

[JadedWriter]

I dunno, they did have the Rexist party.

Why does that sound like something from a jrpg?

 

[Toa TAK]

Why does that sound like something from a jrpg?

Idk I don't think I've ever played a jrpg before now that you bring it up...

*back to COD

 

[Htown]

It's always surprising when I enjoy an episode, then come here to talk about it and it's wall-to-wall negativity.

Not saying it's wrong, people can feel however they like, just surprising.

Yep

fucking

rekt

am I the only one on the planet who looked at that fight and went, "wow Kuvira kicks ass" instead of "wow Korra sucks"?

 

[Order]

Smug overconfident naive fools.
Love me some smug Kuvira.

This was honestly my favorite part of the episode

 

[Plywood]

Wasn't too hype about smug Kuvira. Also I wish the show had some nuance the Zhu Li thing is so obvious and it ticks me off because they finally decided to make her a character and I still don't know where the Asami storyline is going.

 

[Chariot]

German, huh? You should doubly love Kuvira.

Also, have you ventured in the Nicki Minaj thread?

I did, but I was disattracted by that weird american patriot thread. In both cases I managed to not drive-by post. I was close though.

From what I recall chariot is from Belgium. Not everyone from there loves a fascist.

lol. No, I am german. I doubt that I ever stated that I have anything to do with belgium

fucking

rekt

am I the only one on the planet who looked at that fight and went, "wow Kuvira kicks ass" instead of "wow Korra sucks"?

I dunno. I was kinda ready to cheer for our protagonist. And Kuvira gave me too many evil vipes.

 

[Toa TAK]

am I the only one on the planet who looked at that fight and went, "wow Kuvira kicks ass" instead of "wow Korra sucks"?

You are not alone, my brother.

Wasn't too hype about smug Kuvira.

We, however, are done.

I did, but I was disattracted by that weird american patriot thread. In both cases I managed to not drive-by post. I was close though.

AMERICAN PATRIOT THREAD?

My favorite!!!

 

[Icyflamez96]

She could have straight up ripped her body apart.

I mean if she can rip rocks apart with ease...

I don't like imagining this

 

[Mononoke]

Yep


fucking

rekt

am I the only one on the planet who looked at that fight and went, "wow Kuvira kicks ass" instead of "wow Korra sucks"?

Kind of thought Kuvira came off weak. Like it reduced her to just an average threat. It just highlighted she's a regular person. She was definitely toying with Korra but lol at that avatar state gust of wind basically putting her down. Was kind of a strange fight in that sense (I mean where it's at in the story). Because if Korra didn't have her demons she would have ended Kuvira right then and there and all it took was a gust of wind.

Kuvira also took a cheap victory and tried to save face after the fact. So I didn't really get a sense of her kicking ass and being powerful. She's had fights prior where she was more bad ass.

The main villain this season breaking a sweat and heavy breathing from a low tier Korra that can barely do beginners bending. Not a good look. Although I agree with others now that it did give her some more personality (how she gets off on domination and being seen as a god by others).

 

[Mononoke]

Wasn't too hype about smug Kuvira. Also I wish the show had some nuance the Zhu Li thing is so obvious and it ticks me off because they finally decided to make her a character and I still don't know where the Asami storyline is going.

Mako and Asami no longer exist.

 

[Toa TAK]

Although I agree with others now that it did give her some more personality (how she gets off on domination and being seen as a god by others).

More Kocky Kuvria is what this season needs.

Although, the fact that the fight highlighted she's a regular person is actually what I really liked, too. She talks all this shit, but when it comes down to it her power isn't in her fighting abilities, it's in her manipulation and show of force.

 

[Icyflamez96]

Kuvira has killer technique tbh, just garbage durability.

 

[Xpike]

Is Meelo the worst Avatar character even? I swear he's even more annoying than Unalaq.

 

[Icyflamez96]

People thought Unaloq was "annoying?" Why? I get other complaints about him, but what exactly made him "annoying?"

I just think Meelo's voice actor is garbage.

 

[-Deimos]

This is great

LMAO I wasn't expecting Patrick. I'm so glad I read that on my phone.

I loved that

felt like Kuvira was on some Spike Spiegel shit

Funny coincidence, I just finished off the series last night. Except for the movie, I still need to watch that.

 

[Xpike]

People thought Unaloq was "annoying?" Why? I get other complaints about him, but what exactly made him "annoying?"

I just think Meelo's voice actor is garbage.

His whole presense annoyed me because he was clearly an evil dude but the show kept trying to play him off as good until Korra finally wised up.

 

[Hamlet]

People thought Unaloq was "annoying?" Why? I get other complaints about him, but what exactly made him "annoying?"

I just think Meelo's voice actor is garbage.

For me I just found Unalaq boring which I suppose is worse for a main villain.
Meelo is decent if used in small doses, but we've had an awful lot of him recently.
Pretty sure this is his first voice acting job also.

 

[Chariot]

Is Meelo the worst Avatar character even? I swear he's even more annoying than Unalaq.

*puts a sock into your mouth*

 

[Toa TAK]

If Kuvira gets the Scooby-Doo treatment I will punch Bryke or something.