vpance
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MS is so lazy, they never state their sources or add asterisks anymore.
Microsoft: Xbox One leading sales in US since price cut, nearly 10 million sold-in
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MS is so lazy, they never state their sources or add asterisks anymore.
3rdamention
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You can do better than that
, I typed that on my phone, can't I get a cookie or something? Took like 5 minutes with Swype...
Bitmap Frogs
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Considering how weak the demand for the bone is outside the USA, there's a good chance they won't clear 10M sold-through in 2014. They just dropped over 2M bones on the channel in preparation for Christmas and that wasn't enough to push them over 10M sold-in.
miDnIghtEr20C
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I just got a 5% bump from lord gates for that!
I will wait as long as a PS3 fan did for it to pass Xbox World wide for it to happen! Double
But it's all in fun for it. I understand as a bot that MS has the weaker console. I also was like.. wha?!?!?! Why is the weaker Wii rocking PS3 and 360 in sales as well... and well, it had some great fun games. Hoping my X1 can keep cranking out some fun games. It's all we have to hope for at this time.
We got a source for that? For curiosity obviously.
Though I can see that being something they would do since it's the best time of the year for sales.
Obviously this is pre-emptive spin the day before NPD. MS has done this plenty of times prior this gem. I'd go so far as to say this isn't even indicative of November NPD one way or the other. It's just MS thumping their chest as loud as they can just before the big holiday push.
Reading into this PR is like reading tea leaves. You'll see what you want to see.
With that being said, if MS doesn't beat Sony for sold through in November... It's fucking over. Generation decided. The gap is just going to widen exponentially for the remainder of the gen and MS is going to be fighting it out for mindshare with Nintendo.
But nothing here to really bitch about... And bitching about the "news" outlets (why do we still call them that?) picking this up is like bitching about water being wet.
Reading into this PR is like reading tea leaves. You'll see what you want to see.
With that being said, if MS doesn't beat Sony for sold through in November... It's fucking over. Generation decided. The gap is just going to widen exponentially for the remainder of the gen and MS is going to be fighting it out for mindshare with Nintendo.
But nothing here to really bitch about... And bitching about the "news" outlets (why do we still call them that?) picking this up is like bitching about water being wet.
rokkerkory
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I added one to their sales for November.
SO bundle <3
SO bundle <3
BruceLeeRoy
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I am just thinking about their momentum carrying forward.
From quarterly results, we can estimate the number of XBox Ones shipped through the end of September is ~7.5 million. If they are nearing 10 million shipped, there's a good chance they have shipped 2 million in October and November combined. Of course, we can't be sure because we don't know how soon "shortly" is. Since this is Microsoft in the XBox One era, I'm sure they are bending and stretching time as much as they can for PR.
Nightengale
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Well, we were fooled when Sony announced their global sales sometime before an NPD as if to quell bad NPD news... turns out they won that lol.
Goodacre0081
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there is the possibility of the two consoles ending up in a tie. it could also be considered a loss for MS after all the effort they put into bundles and the recent price cut.
there needs to be a gap, a big one.
shinra-bansho
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It's late November, I would assume this nearing 10 million soony would include Black Friday and holiday fulfillment. So it's hard to read too much from this.
vpance
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Shortly is probably by end of the year, their biggest window of opportunity to stuff retail channels.
It's worth noting that Sony sold 10m consoles through to consumers by August 12th, exactly three months ago, and have been leading worldwide since then. Seeing as Microsoft's Christmas stock will amount to about 10m, they've still a lot of numbers to move to be anything more than competitive. Nice to have some updated figures, all the same...even if they had to be translated from PR to English.
3rdamention
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It wouldn't shock me to see Sony announce a price drop at the PlayStation Experience. They would have already sold tons of units in November, and it would have been over a year since it launched. Plus, the timing would be great since its their own event, they will have ALL the media attention, and like 4 weeks left until Christmas...The price drop would get a ton of attention and free advertising it's announced at that event....
Exactly.
Chobel
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Is Sony going to do GTA V bundle for US?
It's only a year in. Look how Wii destroyed the competiton last gen and 6 years later the PS3 surpassed the 360.
The 10mil is sold-in, so not as impressive as it could be.
But many are forgetting that the channels were overstuffed before, so retailers definitely would not order them if they weren't seeing the demand.
But overall it shows a remarkable turn around for the doom and gloom since the initial reveal.
But many are forgetting that the channels were overstuffed before, so retailers definitely would not order them if they weren't seeing the demand.
But overall it shows a remarkable turn around for the doom and gloom since the initial reveal.
Yeah there is a possibility but I think it's a tiny one. From the data we have from Amazon and various insiders it's looking like the xbone is killing the ps4 in November.
LowEndTorque
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"The rest of the year is just preseason. We tend to focus on holiday, when it really counts! To clarify, that is the months of September, October, November* and December!"
*First two weeks of the month, and in the USA only.
But in all seriousness the price cut + free games makes the X1 a much better value proposition and I expect them to take November NPD as a result.
*First two weeks of the month, and in the USA only.
But in all seriousness the price cut + free games makes the X1 a much better value proposition and I expect them to take November NPD as a result.
PeregrinSe7en
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No doubt the XBO is doing well. I bought one myself after the drop. I really doubt MS is making any profit from these consoles, they're probably are being sold at a loss. Maybe they up make the $50 loss through the $25 charge kit and $25 headset adapter.
Either way, they have to take what they can at this point.
Either way, they have to take what they can at this point.
Would be shocked if they drop the price before E3 next year
ethomaz
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The estimates was ~7.5m shipped at end of September.
If they shipped more 1m in October and .5m in November that will give ~9m and that can be said "nearly" 10 million because they will ship more 1 until some day of December for sure.
My personal guesses are 10.5-11m shipped at the end of this year.
I think the goal is to get people to buy software for it.
You can do better than that
I appreciate you typing all that out on a smartphone. I've tried on occasions, but gave up.
I just want Sony to absolutely stomp the XB1 and have a dominant lead in all markets.
I want PS2 days back, but that won't happen if Sony keeps giving MS any semblance of a fighting chance.
There's also the matter of the "Triple the sales of previous weeks." What they conveniently neglect to mention is that they announced the November 2nd price drop a 2 and a half weeks into October. It doesn't strike me as particularly difficult to triple the sales of a console that has just had a $50 price drop announced for the following month. It's the whole "double sales" spin after the Kinectless package announcement all over again. Gotta admire the consistency I guess.
graywolf323
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how would they even know what Sony has sold?
the Wal-Mart Black Friday ad does have a rather official looking GTA V PS4 bundle box
the Wal-Mart Black Friday ad does have a rather official looking GTA V PS4 bundle box
Nightengale
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Well, the momentum has to peak at some point. MCC, aka their biggest holiday hurray has launched. ACU and CoD has launched, and that will naturally weaken the bundle sales.
Even if we disregard NPD, it's natural to assume that week 3 onwards will not be as strong as week 1/2, because it's already post-launch of Xbox's Three-Pointed November big titles.
miDnIghtEr20C
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I agree with you on this.
vpance
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Presumably they're relying on their own sources in retail.
anexanhume
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I think MS can pull it out this month possibly. It's definitely the most interesting month since November of last year.
I'll wait and see what Pachter says and assume the opposite.
I would say it accomplishes what they wanted it to. Here's a sample article. Notice the headline?
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/12/7211395/xbox-one-10-million-sales
Of course they mention "shortly" in the body of the article, but the headline is what most people will take away.
Also, why do The Verge and Polygon suck so hard at making graphs and charts?
Glorified G
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travisbickle
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Leading console sales for two weeks? Hopefully they didn't use the same sources as Pachter when he believed MS were going to hammer Sony sales a couple of months ago
EdReedFan20
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how would they even know what Sony has sold?
the Wal-Mart Black Friday ad does have a rather official looking GTA V PS4 bundle box
I've asked this before, but why are the two PS4 bundles different prices? They seem to be offering exactly the same things: 1 PS4 (with DS4), TLOU and GTA V. They're really charging $50 more if you opt to order online? Or does that bubble regarding choice of bonus games next to the box indicate that you can choose two bonus games along with the included TLOU and GTA V?
One is a Black Friday door buster, the other is MSRP.
3rdamention
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And that was reported as sold to customers. So if you add in the numbers that were still on shelves/shipped, and the numbers they shipped worldwide for the last quarter of 2014 and the holidays, it wouldn't necessarily be out of the possibility to have closer to 20 million shipped by the end of this year.
When is Sony going to report they have "almost" shipped 20 million?
OsirisBlack
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I wouldn't bank on it, There are still a lot of people who will be buying PS4's as Christmas gifts. To be fair leading into this week XB1 has outsold PS4 at about the tune of two to one. Which is very good but as soon as HMCC came out sales completely dropped off a cliff. When we got the Sunset Overdrive bundle in it didn't move units as well as numbers predicted. Halo has at the very least moved quite a few systems.
Nightengale
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Even without that price-drop, this was already debated as MS's 'possible to win' month due to CoD/MCC/ACU bundle. The 349 was, ironically, the sharpest tip of the spear.
It's hard to fathom them losing November.
If anything, the delay of ACU from Oct->Nov, the staggered timing of how XBox-affliated marketing titles/exclusives are all in the first half of the month (CoD => ACU/MCC), leading up to the pivotal second half (BF) are practically the stars aligning for them to 'win November'.
Sony also had marketing/exclusive title delays on their end (Order, Batman, BF Hardline all delayed) which reduces their marketing-affiliated presence for the holidays.
Goodacre0081
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how would they even know what Sony has sold?
the Wal-Mart Black Friday ad does have a rather official looking GTA V PS4 bundle box
first time seeing that GTA5 bundle. was this officially announced yet?
RyanPierre
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Aside from the timing being right before NPD day, you may be onto something with the notion of heavily front loaded sales. A few days ago, someone who has access to Best Buy sales numbers (for a region of stores in the Northeast I believe) said this in the NPD prediction thread:
I'm in an airport and was going through security, lol.You can do better than that
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