Speaking of Super Mario 64, how does the game hold up after 18 years?
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BubblegumCrisis
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yet to be bettered in pure platforming
It's definitely a solid game and the physics are probably the best out of any 3D Mario.
Playing it again though after all this time, the game is much smaller, and the graphics, while still functional are kinda dated.
But overall, it's still pretty great.
Playing it again though after all this time, the game is much smaller, and the graphics, while still functional are kinda dated.
But overall, it's still pretty great.
งGraphics are shit. Your brain, protecting itself from scarring and trauma, may have chosen to forget those early N64 era textures.
The physics on the other hand are unparalleled. If you ever miss a jump it's usually down to wonky camera angles and not the control scheme itself. It's pure platform ing bliss, and with fantastic level design to boot.
The physics on the other hand are unparalleled. If you ever miss a jump it's usually down to wonky camera angles and not the control scheme itself. It's pure platform ing bliss, and with fantastic level design to boot.
Laevateinn
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I played this a month or two ago. The only thing I would change is the camera controls.
Crimsonclaw111
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Still an amazing game and unrivaled by many 3D platformers.
Sparrowhawk
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Still amazing and perfect. I play it from time to time and love watching people run through it on Twitch.
DecoReturns
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It's very strange to play without a 64 controller. In fact it's hard for me to play it without a 64 controller.
It still fun for me, I never think about how games "age"
It still fun for me, I never think about how games "age"
Dion Blaster
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It's held up beautifully. Especially relative to other N64/PS1 era games in terms of graphics, it's very simple, clean, and colorful.
Controls/moveset are still basically perfect for a 3D platformer which is quite an accomplishment.
Thread title had me double take, thought there was some Mario 64 remake news or something.
Controls/moveset are still basically perfect for a 3D platformer which is quite an accomplishment.
Thread title had me double take, thought there was some Mario 64 remake news or something.
EatinOlives
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I don't know if it's sad or amazing that the character physics in Mario 64 still haven't been bested. Games with "platforming" elements to it these days are usually far too loose and they just compensate by magnetizing the character to whatever the developer wanted them to land on. It's too blatant and not at all organic.
Mario 64 has none of that. Missed a platform/pole by mere inches? Too bad, you missed it. And there's little BS in the physics where something happens and you genuinely don't see how that could've possibly happened.
Really wish Nintendo would make a pure sequel to Mario 64. I think it would lend itself very well to the technology advancements we've had since then.
Mario 64 has none of that. Missed a platform/pole by mere inches? Too bad, you missed it. And there's little BS in the physics where something happens and you genuinely don't see how that could've possibly happened.
Really wish Nintendo would make a pure sequel to Mario 64. I think it would lend itself very well to the technology advancements we've had since then.
Orbis Tabula
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I'd love to play it again and see how it measures up. I've been playing 3D World a lot lately, and it's the closest I think a game has ever come to feeling the same as 64. I should play 64 again so I can really see how they stack up, because 3D World is one of the best games I've played in ages.
GrotesqueBeauty
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It still has the best controls of any 3D game imo, and the open ended star system for unlocking stages and playground-like nature of its level designs makes it almost infinitely replayable. I feel like it's a game with the flexibility for users to create their own idiosyncratic play style, which makes it extremely gratifying. I think it holds up really well (it's one of a handful of games I'll regularly revisit just to fart around), and a great litmus test for people who toss around the hackneyed "nostalgia" argument indiscriminately. You don't need rose tinted glasses to recognize god tier game design.
What do you mean by pure sequel? You mean return to the castle instead of going on vacation or space with all the new stuff (not that the Fludd or anti-gravity/starbits are bad)?
I kind of agree. I do think Sunshine is the closest to 64 than the other 3D games. I haven't played 3D World though, but that definitely doesn't look like it.
soxinthebox
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The frame-rate wasn't as great as I remembered when I plugged my (PAL) N64 in earlier in the year. Gameplay itself holds up fine and the music is still pretty great so it's worth a revisit but maybe try out the Wii VC version over the original cart.
Dagobert Duck
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Its a masterpiece...some studios made more than one 3D platformer and still cant nail it as good as Miyamoto did with his first...
I feel like some of the level/objective design has not aged well,but the controls more than make up for those occasionally spotty sections. Its crazy how this game came out in 1996, and the vast majority of 3d platformers since have yet to match it in its fluid controls. I think if you're not familiar with them, older 3d games can be really hard to go back to for most people. Theres a lot of clunky, loose or cumbersome control schemes to adapt to in that era, but Mario 64 feels like it was released yesterday. Its just a joy to play because of how good the movement feels
LiveFromKyoto
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Mathewmatosis did pretty much the definitive review for this, breaking down every mechanic. Overall it holds up pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S6myWz3Kzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S6myWz3Kzg
Mushroomer25
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Super Mario 64 DS is the definitive version, IMO. More characters, more stars, controls great, looks better. All around superior version of the game.
But the baseline is still pretty damn amazing, especially when you realize all that it had to create from scratch - which then later became industry standards.
But the baseline is still pretty damn amazing, especially when you realize all that it had to create from scratch - which then later became industry standards.
Interceptor
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I still think it's the most beautiful N64 game. Everything was so sharp with a nice draw distance. It only went blurry and foggy from here.
Wow. 3D World is that good? Do you have New Super Mario Bros? I've been considering trading it in toward 3D World since, while the first world is fun, I'm not liking the platforming (which is odd since I loved Super Mario World back in the day).
I feel that. Good of you to note the open-ended nature of the game. From the castle as well as the levels within, it makes you think how much time honestly went into the game from its conception. Miyamoto wanted the devs to focus solely on making Mario fun to play and control over everything else in the game I believe. It paid off and I wonder what developers today could do to somewhat emulate this timeless success.
Cool beans. I just got a Wii U and never used the Wii VC. Can I get SM64 on the Wii U?
soxinthebox
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AFAIK you just log in to the virtual Wii and buy it on the shop that exists in there. It won't be a native Wii U app and you'll have to load the vWii to play it until Nintendo decides to release N64 on the Wii U eShop which I wouldn't hold your breath for.
Many fantastic parts, but there are areas that don't hold very well. Graphics is one example, although it's not that important, and it is largely compensated by the colorfulness and cartoonishness. There is the issue of the camera,as others have said. The control was definitely not as tight, with consecutive wall jumps being hair tearing hard. Finally, there is the tedious collectathon that modern 3d Mario games have nearly eliminated. The 100 coin missions were very annoying, and not at all enjoyable. That said, it is still a great game, and that part will never change.
damn, beaten! definitely watch that op, and while you are at it, watch all his over videos!
CoolZombie
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Still one of my absolute favourite games of all time and I really wish they had done a 3DS version because I would have bought that in a second.
But they already did a DS version. They can do a 4DS version, imagine how awesome that would be.
Yep. And the fact that practically no 3D games to this day still don't give you the amount of movement options present in Mario 64 is both an accomplishment and tragedy.
Level design holds up more often than not. The music and overall atmosphere of the game is still one of a kind - like most of Nintendo's N64 offerings, there's something creepily disjointed lurking underneath - though my nostalgic biases may be creeping in a bit.
I actually did! That video was what made me want to play the game again.
What do you mean by creepily disjointed?
ResidentDante
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Gotta agree! It's amazing how well it still plays, even though it was very early in the 3D platformer genre.
Poimandres
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The presentation has aged badly in my opinion. I don't think it holds up nearly as well as even NES era Mario games.
adamantypants
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Mario 64 is old enough to buy cigarettes and porn? Man I'm getting old.
The Dutch Slayer
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Jumping the clocktower speedrun.gif
One of the best games ever made there are still things discovered about the game every year.
Like you can finish the game without jumping.
One of the best games ever made there are still things discovered about the game every year.
Like you can finish the game without jumping.
BK is a game I revisited a few years back.
I gotta say, while BK is fun, a part of me thinks it doesn't hold a candle to SM64 since Rusty Bucket Bay exists and how, for the most part, the game can be completed with your eyes closed.