Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows

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I hope I'm not the only one who says this, but I wished there were a series of chibi shorts for The Legend of Korra. That clip episode felt like a brief taste of what it could have been.

Yeah some Korra Chibi shorts would have been nice as special features for the dvd/blu-rays. Really loved the ATLA chibi shorts.

Finished Evil Within...what a shit tier ending.

Back to Korra.

I love how he says.
Asami is going to have an important role.

I don't know what they are going to make her do...

Korrasami yo. Guessing maybe she'll fix up some of those flying mechs that survived the explosion.
 
Hmm not much to grasp from that ha.
Also someone on Reddit watched the finale early. She works at Viacom.



"All I will say is that romance figures prominently in both episodes"
Time for Makorra to happen ha.

Yeah, i read somewhere else the voice actor for Mako said something "awesome" would happen between him and Korra on book 4, but i couldnt find the source.

I want to believe its all fake though.
 
Ahaha real talk if Makorra actually happens then I'll hate Korra forever because it just would ignore so much just to please some shippers
 
Maybe Korra refuses to kill Kuvira at the last moment,and lefts her defeated, but then comes Suyin when no one is looking and finally has her revenge.
 
Ahaha real talk if Makorra actually happens then I'll hate Korra forever because it just would ignore so much just to please some shippers
It wasn't even really a good relationship. They met, tolerated each other, fucked up an already on going decent relationship, dated, smashed their ship into a fucking ice berg, Mako dated Asami again, had that ship thrown into a pool of fucking magma, started dating Korra again, realized it was shit and stopped dating. That relationship was fucking toxic, nobody wants more of it. It'd be like speed balling a dose of rat poison cut heroin.
Maybe Korra refuses to kill Kuvira at the last moment,and lefts her defeated, but then comes Suyin when no one is looking and finally has her revenge.
The Bei Fongs send their regards.
 
It wasn't even really a good relationship. They met, tolerated each other, fucked up an already on going decent relationship, dated, smashed their ship into a fucking ice berg, Mako dated Asami again, had that ship thrown into a pool of fucking magma, started dating Korra again, realized it was shit and stopped dating. That relationship was fucking toxic, nobody wants more of it. It'd be like speed balling a dose of rat poison cut heroin.

Well come on, now. At least it isn't Carrie/Brody level of bad.
 
Well come on, now. At least it isn't Carrie/Brody level of bad.

I don't see how that doesn't make Makorra not a horrible relationship. Any relationship in which your girlfriend comes to your job, violently smashes your desk against the wall, and then gets into a fit because you didn't commit high treason is not a good one.
 
Well come on, now. At least it isn't Carrie/Brody level of bad.

lol. There certainly is like nothing there though either. If anything, the entire plot was the characters realizing they don't work together. And ever since Book 2, there has been zero foundation for it. Like at all.

Mako and Asami are the only thing that makes sense. Because I. Asami has always loved Mako and wants him and II. Mako and Asami actually wanted to date, but Korra being in her amnesia kind of ruined that.

So they still have that plot kind of there. It hasn't been brought up or really like...existed since Book 3 and 4. But it still would make sense. Korra x Mako would be so fuckin ridiculous. Would make zero sense. And in terms of chemistry, they were pretty fuckin atrocious. Two hot headed people that set each other off. Korra basically verbally and physically abusing him. Was so cringe.

Korrasami makes more sense at this point. And even that would be stupid, since they've only ever had a friendship relationship. And I don't feel like they really implied other wise (yeah yeah, there was the shipper fuel, but it was really just that...shipper fuel). It wouldn't really feel organic to me, given how Asami felt for Mako. And also, the whole plot with Korra and Asami is weird. Asami has her boyfriend taken from her from Korra (her friend). Asami has nothing to do with Korra in all of Book 2. Asami hangs out with Korra and shoots the shit talking shit about Mako (suddenly they are best friends). Then they don't spend any time together in 3 years during Book 4.

But yeah, they are totally lovers.

There really is no ground work for any romance/relationship really (outside of Varrick and his squeeze, Bolin/Opal, Kai/Jinora). So if it's not them, I'll call bullshit. Asami/Mako would be kind of acceptable. But would still feel kind of forced.
 
Well come on, now. At least it isn't Carrie/Brody level of bad.
Now I know what to look out for when I decide to finally watch Homeland, lovely fucking showtime and their shit relationship scripts.
I don't see how that doesn't make Makorra not a horrible relationship. Any relationship in which your girlfriend comes to your job, violently smashes your desk against the wall, and then gets into a fit because you didn't commit high treason is not a good one.
Korra:
"No treason, no sex."
Mako:
"But Korra if I commit this treason they'll cut my fucking head off."
Korra:
"Why aren't you taking my side?"
Mako:
"Because your side will get my fucking head cut off. What is it with you and sides anyhow?"
 
Ahaha real talk if Makorra actually happens then I'll hate Korra forever because it just would ignore so much just to please some shippers

It would just be straight up shit writing. Like, who cares about shippers. People can get mad all they want about who gets with who. Really all that matters, is that the plot makes sense and that the relationship had foundation/built up to.

And there is just nothing there for Korra and Mako. Bryke pulling that out their ass in the series finale would be laughable.
 
Watch the first season but stop after that. Do watch Penny dreadful or The Borgias though.
I usually like to finish shit at least unless it really pisses me off like The Walking Dead. I wanted that whole cast to fucking die. I even finished all of Dexter. I did hear good things about Penny Dreadful.
 
Now I know what to look out for when I decide to finally watch Homeland, lovely fucking showtime and their shit relationship scripts.

Korra:
"No treason, no sex."
Mako:
"But Korra if I commit this treason they'll cut my fucking head off."
Korra:
"Why aren't you taking my side?"
Mako:
"Because your side will get my fucking head cut off. What is it with you and sides anyhow?"

*Korra procedes to burn Mako's house down*
 
I usually like to finish shit at least unless it really pisses me off like The Walking Dead. I wanted that whole cast to fucking die. I even finished all of Dexter. I did hear good things about Penny Dreadful.

Homeland will just crush your soul. Don't do it (season 1 is almost a masterpiece). Also, even if this current season has gotten better, it's fuckin Showtime. You know this will be one for 8 seasons. If it already went to shit in Season 2...yeah. Just don't.
 
You want risk, you want progression? How about having the main protagonist stay single, because there is no romance they actually are into.
 
Homeland will just crush your soul. Don't do it (season 1 is almost a masterpiece). Also, even if this current season has gotten better, it's fuckin Showtime. You know this will be one for 8 seasons. If it already went to shit in Season 2...yeah. Just don't.
Sounds like I'm just better off sticking with Banshee and watching that over, cause damn. I'm already pissed off at Showtime over Dexter.
 
lol. There certainly is like nothing there though either. If anything, the entire plot was the characters realizing they don't work together. And ever since Book 2, there has been zero foundation for it. Like at all.

Mako and Asami are the only thing that makes sense. Because I. Asami has always loved Mako and wants him and II. Mako and Asami actually wanted to date, but Korra being in her amnesia kind of ruined that.

So they still have that plot kind of there. It hasn't been brought up or really like...existed since Book 3 and 4. But it still would make sense. Korra x Mako would be so fuckin ridiculous. Would make zero sense. And in terms of chemistry, they were pretty fuckin atrocious. Two hot headed people that set each other off. Korra basically verbally and physically abusing him. Was so cringe.

Korrasami makes more sense at this point. And even that would be stupid, since they've only ever had a friendship relationship. And I don't feel like they really implied other wise (yeah yeah, there was the shipper fuel, but it was really just that...shipper fuel). It wouldn't really feel organic to me, given how Asami felt for Mako. And also, the whole plot with Korra and Asami is weird. Asami has her boyfriend taken from her from Korra (her friend). Asami has nothing to do with Korra in all of Book 2. Asami hangs out with Korra and shoots the shit talking shit about Mako (suddenly they are best friends). Then they don't spend any time together in 3 years during Book 4.

But yeah, they are totally lovers.

There really is no ground work for any romance/relationship really (outside of Varrick and his squeeze, Bolin/Opal, Kai/Jinora). So if it's not them, I'll call bullshit. Asami/Mako would be kind of acceptable. But would still feel kind of forced.

Eh, that's not exactly true. Asami was the only one Korra corresponded with during those 3 years. She was the only one out of the group that knew Korra was having trouble entering the Avatar State.
 
Eh, that's not exactly true. Asami was the only one Korra corresponded with during those 3 years. She was the only one out of the group that knew Korra was having trouble entering the Avatar State.

EDIT: Nvm. I'll just wait and see before judging. Plus, I can see people's point about their relationship growing in the last 2 seasons, they feel that is enough of a basis to have a romance show up.

I just think, there was zero romance plot in Book 3-4. And so, Korra should end up single. Just me.
 
I usually like to finish shit at least unless it really pisses me off like The Walking Dead. I wanted that whole cast to fucking die. I even finished all of Dexter. I did hear good things about Penny Dreadful.
Yeah Penny Dreadful is pretty good so far. Eva Green is at the top of her game in it.

Damn, no wonder why I just watch animes mostly. Anybody know if Hannibal is any good?
Best show this year go watch it now.
 
Does an agnostic bear have a hard time deciding if it wants to shit in the atheist or religious forest?
I'll take that as a "Yes it's good."
Yeah Penny Dreadful is pretty good so far. Eva Green is at the top of her game in it.


Best show this year go watch it now.
I fucking love Eva Green. Her and Marion Cotillard are my current favorite actresses. Sounds like Hannibal is my next live action show to watch.
 
I mean honestly. Those that like Korrasami. Would you really feel satisfied with it in this finale? Given that, there has been ZERO plot leading up to it in this season?

I just feel like at this point, Korra should just be single. I think even if I was for a ship (if I was invested in one), I would feel let down if it happened just to happen, without any real like build up. *shrugs* I guess I can see like, how people feel that Korra and Asami's relationship has grown from Book 3 and 4. So that is enough of a foundation to justify it.

I guess maybe I should just wait and see. I mean, if they did a really great scene, and it felt great...I dunno, maybe they could pull it off. You never know?

EDIT: I guess the more I think about it, I can see where people are coming from.

So, one major thing that makes me somewhat in favour of a korra/asami pairing even if it's done imperfectly is that it's just frankly something that hasn't been done in a child/youth animated show afaik. The reality is that something has to break that glass, and there's no sense waiting for that something to be perfect. It may even be *necessary* for it to be imperfect to get it past the 'censors' (even if they aren't explicitly censors).

But I also think there's been plenty of little circumstantial bits this season that would make at least opening up the possibility of it in a more direct way in the finale perfectly reasonable from a storytelling POV. If they kissed and got married in the 40 or so minutes of airtime that would be dumb, but if feelings were acknowledged and then things moved on that'd be just fine. Not really all that different from Aang and Katara, really, though obviously they had a lot more time and much less busy plotting to work with there. It was still something that was mostly in the background and periodically punctuated, with the ending being fairly open-ended in how their relationship would actually evolve.

I also think it's really important to recognize that queer relationships in television -- especially in children's television -- are still relatively rare, and so even when they might fit a pattern that with a hetero pairing you would accept as at least opening the possibility, your brain might be hesitant to apply that pattern to what you're seeing, simply because you've basically been trained to not expect it.

Also, I sympathize with your desire to have her end the show single as a progressive idea. I agree that it would be. But I also think a queer relationship would be a much much bigger deal for a much much larger number of people poorly represented on television.
 
Korrasami would be immensely worse than Makorra. Women should be able to be portrayed as friends without suggestions or implications that they are secretly attracted to each other. Inserting a sexual undercurrent into completely platonic interactions seems almost voyeuristic in a way. And it would treat an incredibly significant and intrinsic part of one's personal identity as a flippant lifestyle choice, oh it's time for the finale, guess Korra is into women now. I get that people are not earnestly suggesting it would be a good idea, but sometimes the line gets blurry.

I'm torn about maharg's post. Yes it's true that something is better than nothing, and getting around censors is incredibly difficult in children's television. But I think it's the definition of throwaway to have anything happen in the finale with absolutely nothing beforehand. It's 2014, I don't think we need to have such low standards even from a real politik perspective. I think social attitudes are progressed enough that openly gay characters are possible, or that a cultural fight about them is winnable.
 
So, one major thing that makes me somewhat in favour of a korra/asami pairing even if it's done imperfectly is that it's just frankly something that hasn't been done in a child/youth animated show afaik. The reality is that something has to break that glass, and there's no sense waiting for that something to be perfect. It may even be *necessary* for it to be imperfect to get it past the 'censors' (even if they aren't explicitly censors).

But I also think there's been plenty of little circumstantial bits this season that would make at least opening up the possibility of it in a more direct way in the finale perfectly reasonable from a storytelling POV. If they kissed and got married in the 40 or so minutes of airtime that would be dumb, but if feelings were acknowledged and then things moved on that'd be just fine. Not really all that different from Aang and Katara, really, though obviously they had a lot more time and much less busy plotting to work with there. It was still something that was mostly in the background and periodically punctuated, with the ending being fairly open-ended in how their relationship would actually evolve.

I also think it's really important to recognize that queer relationships in television -- especially in children's television -- are still relatively rare, and so even when they might fit a pattern that with a hetero pairing you would accept as at least opening the possibility, your brain might be hesitant to apply that pattern to what you're seeing, simply because you've basically been trained to not expect it.

I mean, sure. I guess. I still wish for things to be done in an organic way that makes sense, and feels right. It would be a great thing for all the reasons you stated. But I guess I always side on the art/story side of things first.

And to me, personally, I don't think I would feel the pairing would really make sense. But that's just me. But I can understand the importance of doing that (with regards to kids televisions LGBT relationships). But I also think it would be a good message to have the character remain single, if there wasn't a romance there to support it. I think a lot of female characters on TV (especially ones that are main characters, which isn't that often in Animation)...are often forced into romantic plots. So the main character here not being forced into a romantic plot if it doesn't feel right, and especially when the demographic this show is aimed at often does it for that reason, it would also be a change of pace.

EDIT: Guess you guys think there has been enough this season to justify it. I'll be in the minority on this one. But I hope if they do go through with it, it's done well. Done in a way that feels right. That's all I'll say. I still think Korra ending up single would be the best option at this point.
 
Korrasami would be immensely worse than Makorra. Women should be able to be portrayed as friends without suggestions or implications that they are secretly attracted to each other. Inserting a sexual undercurrent into completely platonic interactions seems almost voyeuristic in a way. And it would treat an incredibly significant and intrinsic part of one's personal identity as a flippant lifestyle choice, oh it's time for the finale, guess Korra is into women now. I get that people are not earnestly suggesting it would be a good idea, but sometimes the line gets blurry.

It would feel no more forced than Korra getting with Mako, and that's what television needs: the normalization of non-straight relationships.

I mean, women are constantly portrayed as friends without sexual connotations. No ground is being broken on that front.
 
It would feel no more forced than Korra getting with Mako, and that's what television needs: the normalization of non-straight relationships.

I mean, women are constantly portrayed as friends without sexual connotations. No ground is being broken on that front.

I'm not feeling good about this at all.

I agree with what you and maharg are saying. But I also don't think a story/character should be forced into something, just for the sake of a message. It undercuts the message. Something like that should be organic and feel right. It would make it more powerful, and more relatable.

Oh well. I guess the reality is, some believe there is enough foundation there for it to make sense. Some don't. I fall in the don't camp, sort of. So I'm feeling super iffy on this. And this is coming from someone that loves Korrasami as a concept. But just don't think the show has set it up to work. But I'll hold off on judgments, until i see it actually happen (if it happens). I suppose anything can be pulled off, if done right.
 
It would feel no more forced than Korra getting with Mako, and that's what television needs: the normalization of non-straight relationships.

I mean, women are constantly portrayed as friends without sexual connotations. No ground is being broken on that front.

Well, I don't know if I'd say the bolded is entirely true. It is also a problem, as the bechdel test so perfectly points out. But I think AtLA did quite a lot to push against that particular problem as well so I'm willing to cut them a little slack there even if their writing isn't up to the historical quality of their franchise.
 
Actually, fuck it. This show has done so many things poorly. So many terrible plot devices and cheap shortcuts. I guess I wouldn't care too much about Korrasami even if I personally don't think its been built up to. Even if I think Korra being single is the best option.

Since it would be a positive thing for TV and children, why not. Like I said, given all the bullshit Bryke has done with shoddy writing, Id be okay with this one.
 
Actually, fuck it. This show has done so many things poorly. So many terrible plot devices and cheap shortcuts. I guess I wouldn't care too much about Korrasami even if I personally don't think its been built up to. Even if I think Korra being single is the best option.

Since it would be a positive thing for TV and children, why not. Like I said, given all the bullshit Bryke has done with shoddy writing, Id be okay with this one.

You don't have to like Korrasami, lol

I don't mind one way or the other. I assumed Asami would be playing a larger role in the season that she ended up doing, and I also assumed that she would prove to be Korra's balance when it came to technological stuff and all the thinking therein. That kind of support would be relatively easy to spin into mutual attraction.

But as things stand now, it more looks like Korra is going it alone at series end.
 
You don't have to like Korrasami, lol

I don't mind one way or the other. I assumed Asami would be playing a larger role in the season that she ended up doing, and I also assumed that she would prove to be Korra's balance when it came to technological stuff and all the thinking therein. That kind of support would be relatively easy to spin into mutual attraction.

But as things stand now, it more looks like Korra is going it alone at series end.

I actually do like Korrasami. I was rooting for it in Book 3. They just didn't do anything with it IMO.
 
what is right?

Fleshing the relationship out. You know actually building it up and making it feel organic. Basically doing a good job as opposed to waiting for the last second to do it because they didn't want to take the risk and do it right earlier on.
 
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us waiting for the finale
 
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