Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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Like is a strong word. It just wasn't an embarassment to itself.
WhiskerFrisker
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So I just watched the finale. Is the Korrsami thing an inside joke? I liked the season. I'm just sad that this is over. Will the avatar series continue after this? This world stilll has so much potential. I mean, how is the fire nation after Zuko's rule? How is it now? What's the next threat? Red lotus? So many questions I want answers to.
This is the part where you must arbitrarily rank the finales.
firehawk12
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After reading the thread, I thought the ending would be bigger than it was... but at best it's ambiguous enough to make all the shippers happy. It's probably as close to a harem ending that a non-anime can get I suppose.
The Kuvira ending was such a cop out though. Yuck.
The Kuvira ending was such a cop out though. Yuck.
WrenchNinja
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"You are stronger than me. You can send me to jail now"
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Xpike
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1) It's not ambiguous at all, just restricted by Nick's rules.
2) Do you even know whata harem ending is
As long as you understand it is arbitrary. I don't like doing rankings because they never really convey what is right or wrong or why it's so. That's why I like to do actual posts explaining whats wrong. So, these rankings, rather than judging actual quality, they just judge how much I enjoyed the seasons while watching them.
1. Change
2. Air
3. Balance
4. Spirits
JadedWriter
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Izumi's doing it herself, probably fire bending into a magnifying glass.
I'm sure they've got some post finale interviews lined up. So we should get some thoughts from them soonish hopefully.
I think the biggest flaw was that the finale had no plot. The end had nothing to say about the series as a whole. And the season really amounted to nothing. We also didn't get any sort of resolution for Korra in terms of a conclusion to her journey.
I just watched the finale for a 3rd time. And I'm finding myself enjoying the finale a bit more in terms of pure entertainment. Action set pieces were cool. The team effort with the fighting was fun and used everyone well. So purely as an episode with action and pacing, it was quite good. But in terms of plot and themes, it just had nothing to say.
It's kind of crazy how I can be 44 min of nothing. By far the biggest misstep was the half baked Kuvira. She was very one note. And the season focused too much on Kuvira. Also it's insulting how Kuvira was "I always get what I want", slave labor camps, eugenics and yet they try to say she was a scared girl trying to protect herself and her people. It's so lazy.
And using Kuvira as a tie in for Korra's resolution was sooooo bizarre.
Anyways what are your thoughts on Korra's suffer for compassion line. It didn't tie in to any plot of Korra's.
It's totally ambiguous.
The way I interpreted it was definitely "They're best buds forever that are really tight". I didn't really see any sort of romance there whatsoever.
Do you hold both your bro's hands and gaze into their eyes as you're about to head out?
JadedWriter
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I'm curious what Janet Varney has to say about it. From what I remember she was never against the shipping.
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Xpike
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Do you hold private vacations with your bros?
firehawk12
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The way I took it, you could be open to Mako and Korra hooking up at any point later down the line if you want. The fact that there is no indication that Korra and Asami are interested in each other in anything more than a platonic nature outside of fans being fans lets that particular final scene be read however you want it to be read as well.
So everyone gets what they want out of the ending.
Janet Varney just got even COOLER in my eyes.
Korra does that with EVERYBODY. Like, who hasn't had a hand-holding eyes-gazing moment with her?
firehawk12
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Sure she's into. She does seem to love shipping talk from the interviews i've seen.
Plus there is this.
Kuvira.
A Human Becoming
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Why was Hiroshi Sato the only "good" person allowed to die? Why is Harry Potter allowed to have so many killed in comparison?
I thought the final mech fight was comically bad. It's like Kuvira never thought benders could try to knock the mech down. Her main strategy was to swing the arm around and try to hit really small targets with a slow, big gun.
Ending had me laughing. I expected only a troll, not a confirmation.
I thought the final mech fight was comically bad. It's like Kuvira never thought benders could try to knock the mech down. Her main strategy was to swing the arm around and try to hit really small targets with a slow, big gun.
Ending had me laughing. I expected only a troll, not a confirmation.
I'm sure they had one in the spirit world while we weren't looking.
My exGF and her best friend do it, they both have boyfriends now. They look at each other with great care at emotional moments.
they are really close like that, they say they're sisters and Shit
that's probably why I like to think their relationship is like that, makes more with the series as a whole, without Tumblr interference.
But I can also see it as a romantic relationship, an extremely forced one
The best part is korra forgave Kuvira as it showed character development but lost her sit when she saw asami dad. Also republic city army doing shit even after giant meca is defeated
Come on now, just imagine if that was Mako or another dude in place of Asami, there would be absolutely no doubt, even without a kiss. I know girls are more touchy feely around each other than guys are but not to that extent, it really couldn't be more obvious.
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Xpike
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did you ex and her bff also once planned a private vacation after more or less confesing they couldnt live without each other
I really think that's what it is. Like, I read all these critics creaming themselves over how Korra has female characters who can accomplish things, and implies a lesbian romance, and it's an all-white cast. And I'm like ... how is any of this revolutionary, especially here in the Internet age when we can and do watch TV shows from all over the world at the click of a button? It's only if you automatically approach animation with drastically lowered standards that this stuff outweighs the plot and character problems that have plagued Korra throughout its run. Either that, or a lot of publication just give TLOK duties to massive fanboys who are willing to overlook stuff like Kuvira going from literally Hitler (tm) to "she's a complicated person" who completely changes her outlook because Korra saved her from the spirit gun.
Edit: I was kinda expecting it going on, but I was rolling my eyes so fucking hard when they pulled the same shit as they did with Amon and started trying to fill in a sad backstory for Kuvira like 10 minutes before the end of the show. That's actually way worse than Amon; at least his backstory was in the penultimate episode.
Well then, where's my Varney avatar then?
He's just making sure he doesn't make any sudden moves.
Just saying.
Get outta here. Kuvira needs no one.
EEEEEEEEEEHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Reminds me of how Taylor Swift holds her BFF.
JadedWriter
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I honestly think they didn't know how to actually write Kuvira's character. From the interviews they did at comic con they had a good idea with her, but there really was just something lacking in the execution with her. They said things, but when it came time to it being portrayed on screen they just really never gave it the time of day. This also shows that Su's a HUGE hypocrite. Granted she never tried to dominate a country but Su did some dumb ass shit as a kid and WANTED FORGIVENESS for it, but never apologized. Kuvira manned up and actually apologized and got nothing at all from anybody. It's like the opposite of the whole Bei Fong family storyline. In some ways she didn't have much of a say in her life. Her family abandoned her, which is the opposite of Amon, whom just walked out on his. She didn't want her people to feel the pain of abandonment like she did. It's a noble aspiration, but it's something I wish they discussed a lot earlier in the season. They never really gave you an idea on how Kuvira thinks, or what she even thinks about. It was just domination domination, evil stare, sneer and shit like that. It would've been nice if she at least had some memento from her parents whether it be a tattered picture or a locket or a set of earrings from her mother that she would use to remind her where she came from, something, anything. I harp on it a lot, but it is something I think about a lot.
Messofanego
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It's bullshit. I think Bryke just pander to the fans too much. "Oh, you want romance drama? Here's some! Oh, you don't want it? Lets take it away then. Oh, you want Korra and Asami to be lesbians now? Sure!" And with this, I think it's "Oh, you think Korra is a jerk? Well, we'll give her a good beating, just for you. Then she'll be more compassionate." It's not necessarily that the idea is a wrong one to take, but it's placement and Bryke's past tendencies make it come off as them trying to pander to the audience so they'll be loved again, rather than creating a believable narrative.
Because it is slightly unbelievable, atleast the way they put it. This isn't the first time Korra has suffered. This whole series has been one long montage of korra getting her shit kicked in in some way or another. Amon took away all her self confidence and later her bending (before she was magically saved by a deus ex machina, but still). She pushed away her mentor, had to deal with a treacherous uncle and her involvement in starting a war, before breaking up with Mako and getting her ass kicked by her creepy twin cousins. In season 3, Republic city hates her at this point Zaheer and his team wrecked her shit whenever they show up. I guess you could say this was her biggest cross yet, but if it was just having some shit thrown her way, she's been doing that since the show started. And this is ignoring that the problem was pretty much solved in Season 3 anyway. As far as I remember, she only was somewhat of a jerk to that one little jackass that kept dismissing everything as unimportant, and all that she did was yell at him before she was stopped from going any further. But that was more played for comedy and it's understandable she got angry because that guy was an asshole.
And it's not like she was compassionateless. She was just really quick to villify any enemy she encountered. Once she saw some weakness, or greater hint of depth within that person, she was perfectly willing to offer an open hand. Zaheer is the most significant example of this, in her one conversation with him before they became permanent enemies due to his actions, but this can be seen even as far back as Book 1 where Korra regarded Tahno as nothing more than an douche whose ass she had to kick, until he lost his bending, at which point she offered comfort. Or Tarrlok, who caused more destruction than even Amon at that point, she was sympathetic to him when he told her his backstory. Their problem wasn't that Korra was a jerk (though, she was), but that they never explored that path sufficiently enough to make any relationship with an antagonist grow more.
So now, when Korra tries to make peace with Kuvira, it's laughable because her people skills suck so bad, she's so incapable of approaching a complex situation that the only time she could break through to Kuvira is when she had lost so completely that it would have been essentially suicide by exile into the spirit world to not take her up on her offer.
If I had bros that I was really close with, heck yeah, I'm already a really tactile person and hug pretty much everyone I'm close to. It's not really that big of a stretch from where I currently am.
If I had the money to do so, I totally would.
I've had girls as friends that I can act that way with without being sexually attracted to them, or vice-versa.
victreeb3l
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Amazing ending. Loved it. Really sad Korra is done now, even though I absolutely derided the first 2 seasons.
Holy shit Korrasami is real? lol wow.
Thought it ended kinda abruptly however. We still didnt get resolution for many of the other characters. One more episode would have been great.
I just loved Varricks confession. "Will you do the thing with me for the rest of our lives?" What a smooth talker. And Zhu Li looked so nice when she turned around after Varrick called to her.
Thats true, she did have one with Tenzin 5 minutes earlier.
Holy shit Korrasami is real? lol wow.
Thought it ended kinda abruptly however. We still didnt get resolution for many of the other characters. One more episode would have been great.
I just loved Varricks confession. "Will you do the thing with me for the rest of our lives?" What a smooth talker. And Zhu Li looked so nice when she turned around after Varrick called to her.
Thats true, she did have one with Tenzin 5 minutes earlier.
My only issue there is that like, that was never apart of any plot right? I guess apart of her journey was letting go of what Zaheer did to her. But was that about forgiving? Or about accepting the things that have happened to you, and not letting it hold you back?
So that was like the ONLY thing I could possibly tie it to. But for most of the season, it was about her overcoming her demons. It was not about compassion, or forgiving. That was not the theme of the season. And there was no specific plot about that.
I agree that Korra in the finale seemed like an Avatar at peace with everything. But I dunno. It just was kind of strange to me in terms of the plot this season, and even just the overall plot with Korra.
I mean, I think apart of this season was about Korra accepting the people that have hurt her each season. But again, I didn't really see that like, as her forgiving them. But more so, coming to terms with the things she's suffered, and being able to move on past them. When her and Zaheer met, that is the message I got. I never got a plot about forgiving. So that is why I found the whole Kuvira bit kind of strange and out of left field. And the whole Suffer for Compassion bit with Tenzin to be kind of odd.
Also like, that wasn't ever really Korra's flaw in the series. Forgiving was not her issue. So it's just strange to me that they would focus so much on that out of no where, and kind of make that Korra's resolution as a character.
And Mako.
JadedWriter
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And if anybody wants to see an anime with the villains done right I recommend The Vision of Escaflowne. It's a bit old, but it's a classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vnP5Sxd49Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vnP5Sxd49Y
WhiskerFrisker
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I thought only season two truly had a god awful finale. That episode and whole season left a sour taste. I literally went to bed pissed at how shitty it was. My friend and I ranted on how craptastic it was. Season 1 felt rushed in my eyes.
Imma ask my bro to do the same next time we walk into a bar.
Still working through my backlog of shows. I'll get to Escaflowne eventually.
Astral Dog
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Last two episodes of Book 1 were the worst ending on Korra.
Except for the boat scene, everything was awful, the "figth" with Amon, his backstory at the last moment, Makorra,Korra getting her bending back, everyone getting their bending back.the equalists dissapearing, Korras plan, Tenzin getting captured, the suicide attempt,everything.
The scene with Amon on the window is a special one, i could buy if Korra surprised Amon with her airbending just enough to throw him out the window, or if she used the Avatar state.
But that doesnt happen, Amon is clearly focusing on Korra, she just snaps out of it and throws him, then the face paint, and Mako firebending instead of using lligthning.
it was, worse than this ending for the series.
Except for the boat scene, everything was awful, the "figth" with Amon, his backstory at the last moment, Makorra,Korra getting her bending back, everyone getting their bending back.the equalists dissapearing, Korras plan, Tenzin getting captured, the suicide attempt,everything.
The scene with Amon on the window is a special one, i could buy if Korra surprised Amon with her airbending just enough to throw him out the window, or if she used the Avatar state.
But that doesnt happen, Amon is clearly focusing on Korra, she just snaps out of it and throws him, then the face paint, and Mako firebending instead of using lligthning.
it was, worse than this ending for the series.
WhiskerFrisker
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Grand Master Toph could of bended that platinum. Toph is a beast.
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