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[Mr Fahrenheit]

Has there been any hint at all about some sort of continuation of this universe? A new show? New comics? Anything, any hint at all?

I'm not ready to let go.

I hope they do comics, TLA ones have been coming out great from what I've read of them. But considering how much Nick disowned this show, I doubt it.

 

[WhereAreMahDragonz]

I still find it kind of weird and slightly out of character that Korra and Asami would just elope and bounce out of there without even inviting Mako or Bolin. Aren't they supposed to be friends? Even if they're going on a romantic getaway it sort of seemed like they ditched everyone haha.

I don't think they meant it as "Omg Asami and Korra are gonna go get married and have babies at this very moment." It's more like, this is the beginning of Korrasami, officially. In it's most basic stages as a canon couple.

 

[Atraveller]

I think it's more of the fact that it was the only thing that can sum up the finale and season

The ending could have been better, but I was talking about Korrasami itself, people were arguing whether it's a thing or not.

I just didn't like how it was the note the show ended on. I'm glad it happened, but their romance wasn't like Aang and Katara's that was a major thing throughout the show, it wasn't worth being the parting sentiment. It was thematically clumsy.

Even Makorra was not a major thing through out the show
Yeah it was apparent and it dragged and dragged, but it had no overall influence to the plot.

 

[Mononoke]

I still find it kind of weird and slightly out of character that Korra and Asami would just elope and bounce out of there without even inviting Mako or Bolin. Aren't they supposed to be friends? Even if they're going on a romantic getaway it sort of seemed like they ditched everyone haha.

I see what you are saying. Basically, they really had no resolution or conclusion for Mako or Bolin in that finale. And then they just kind of bounce leaving them behind.

Them leaving them behind isn't like THAT out of character. Er..given what their relationship is going into. But in terms of the overall story, it's kind of shitting all over Bolin and Mako. Pretty much, Bryke didn't give a damn about the side characters and it really showed in that finale.

Mako took the biggest L with that speech about loyalty. So much fierce loyalty. Korra then bouncing. Dude is a sucker.

In terms of logical plot though, Asami just lost her father. Korra is her "best friend"...and they are moving into a romantic relationship. So I can buy them leaving without the group. Still funny Bryke chose to make the other characters not matter in the end though.

 

[aly]

I still find it kind of weird and slightly out of character that Korra and Asami would just elope and bounce out of there without even inviting Mako or Bolin. Aren't they supposed to be friends? Even if they're going on a romantic getaway it sort of seemed like they ditched everyone haha.

The weird part is that I kinda can. Lets be honest: These people aren't friends. Or at least they weren't a team avatar. They've spent most of the show apart and why should that change now?

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Even Makorra was not a major thing through out the show
Yeah it was apparent and it dragged and dragged, but it had no overall influence to the plot.

It had it's place, no matter how much people hated it.

 

[Mononoke]

The weird part is that I kinda can. Lets be honest: These people aren't friends. Or at least they weren't a team avatar. They've spent most of the show apart and why should that change now?

They were like the strangest friends ever. Why they were even friends, or even a team..is beyond me. Honestly. They spent so much time apart. And like Korra bouncing for 3 years and not giving a damn about Mako or Bolin or even giving them a single contact.

Then just showing up, and then again not spending time with them.

So why exactly is Mako loyal to this person?

EDIT: I mean I understand hims still caring about her. But his whole line about being loyal to her to the death, was just strange to me given the overall way their plot played out this season. And then the way it ends with them. lol

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

They were like the strangest friends ever. Why they were even friends, or even a team..is beyond me. Honestly. They spent so much time apart. And like Korra bouncing for 3 years and not giving a damn about Mako or Bolin or even giving them a single contact.

Then just showing up, and then again not spending time with them.

So why exactly is Mako loyal to this person?

He's still craving the p

 

[williamsan]

Also, let's take a moment to acknowledge the music in this series. Good lord, it's always been good since the first season of ATLA.

Gotta love how the composer posted the final theme of LoK on his Soundcloud with Korra and Asami holding hands. Note that the song is a remix of Avatar's Love from ATLA.

https://soundcloud.com/jeremy-zuckerman/the-legend-of-korra



At least until you got Air Bending ex Machina, right?

Good lord this just pulls on my heartstrings, especially the last few seconds where they throw in a little piece of Safe Return, my favorite ATLA track. Whatever the consensus on the final scene, I think the music is something special.

 

[Mononoke]

He's still craving the p

lol well he fucked up. Asami was god tier. Korra was awful (erratic, abusive etc.). What a total fuck up. Why he cheated on her for Korra is crazy.

Mako only has Wu now. Get it Mako.

 

[Atraveller]

A scene with Korra writing to her parents months later after the events, narrating how her friends are doing, and the future of Air nation and Republic City, then ends with her saying goodbye because she's going on an adventure, and will not see them for months. Then you cut to Korrasami scene, that would have been much better!

It had it's place, no matter how much people hated it.

Korra sort of realized she was a horrible gf, but then nothing came out of it.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

A scene with Korra writing to her parents months later after the events, narrating how her friends are doing, and the future of Air nation and Republic City, then ends with her saying goodbye because she's going on an adventure, and will not see them for months. Then you cut to Korrasami scene, that would have been much better!

Now that sounds like a better ending. Put Byke to shame

 

[Mononoke]

Just know, Asami is going to have a lot of suffering dating Korra. Just remember what happened to Mako. It's coming.

 

[aly]

They were like the strangest friends ever. Why they were even friends, or even a team..is beyond me. Honestly. They spent so much time apart. And like Korra bouncing for 3 years and not giving a damn about Mako or Bolin or even giving them a single contact.

Then just showing up, and then again not spending time with them.

So why exactly is Mako loyal to this person?

EDIT: I mean I understand hims still caring about her. But his whole line about being loyal to her to the death, was just strange to me given the overall way their plot played out this season. And then the way it ends with them. lol

I really lost faith in the writing team with this show. So I'm gonna chalk this one up to bad writing. None of it made sense. I use to hate Mako, but now I truly feel sorry for the way he got crapped on by the writing team. Someone said earlier how it felt like the some of the things that happened later in the show seemed like pandering to fans to make up for earlier mistakes and this seems like it. People hated Makorra, Bolin being a loser and Mako's terrible character so they decide to push them out of the picture somehow while keeping them friends (lol). I'm baffled as to why they did'nt just kill Mako or Bolin.

 

[JadedWriter]

They were like the strangest friends ever. Why they were even friends, or even a team..is beyond me. Honestly. They spent so much time apart. And like Korra bouncing for 3 years and not giving a damn about Mako or Bolin or even giving them a single contact.

Then just showing up, and then again not spending time with them.

So why exactly is Mako loyal to this person?

EDIT: I mean I understand hims still caring about her. But his whole line about being loyal to her to the death, was just strange to me given the overall way their plot played out this season. And then the way it ends with them. lol

Korra was the last woman Mako dated. That whole situation turned the dude asexual.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

I think mako was a good character it's just the writing team shitted on him

 

[m_shortpants]

more like acquaintances when in conflict

I don't think they meant it as "Omg Asami and Korra are gonna go get married and have babies at this very moment." It's more like, this is the beginning of Korrasami, officially. In it's most basic stages as a canon couple.

I see what you are saying. Basically, they really had no resolution or conclusion for Mako or Bolin in that finale. And then they just kind of bounce leaving them behind.

Them leaving them behind isn't like THAT out of character. Er..given what their relationship is going into. But in terms of the overall story, it's kind of shitting all over Bolin and Mako. Pretty much, Bryke didn't give a damn about the side characters and it really showed in that finale.

Mako took the biggest L with that speech about loyalty. So much fierce loyalty. Korra then bouncing. Dude is a sucker.

In terms of logical plot though, Asami just lost her father. Korra is her "best friend"...and they are moving into a romantic relationship. So I can buy them leaving without the group. Still funny Bryke chose to make the other characters not matter in the end though.

The weird part is that I kinda can. Lets be honest: These people aren't friends. Or at least they weren't a team avatar. They've spent most of the show apart and why should that change now?

So...I guess they aren't friends then? lol

I mean, I can understand the desire to get away from everyone as their romance develops. I guess it just felt weird because of the pacing. It's kind of like Man of Steel. Zod and Superman destroy the city and there's this really emotional scene. Then it abruptly shifts to a light hearted scene. That's kind of what happened with Korra I think.

It felt weird to end the series the way they did IMO. In TLA they're all in the same room and Aang and Katara step out for a second. In Korra, it's Korra and Asami just leaving :/ And Mako's loyalty schpeal...so weird.


I'm probably going in circles but I'm not thinking too clearly right now.

 

[Ochi]

why was the season even called Balance to begin with

I get the feeling it was supposed to indicate the theme of Korra finally stepping out on the world stage to balance things out (apart from unleashing spirits, helping recruit airbenders and failing to stop the earth queens demise) Korra has basically had no impact on the larger world.

Kuvira wanted to bring "balance" to the earth kingdom from the chaos Zaheer unleashed (in the case balance is being interchangeable used with peace)

Kuvira being evil though means Korra needed to do her avatar thing and bring balance to the world.

 

[Gorillaz]

I think mako was a good character it's just the writing team shitted on him

I actually think they really dropped the ball on Mako. Probably one of the biggest disappointments of the series

 

[Toa TAK]

I guess then these people were just like co-workers?

 

[Atraveller]

Korra was the last woman Mako dated. That whole situation turned the dude asexual.

LMAO

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Korra sort of realized she was a horrible gf, but then nothing came out of it.

It's a big part of her realizing that at the end of the day she's the one who's the Avatar and she can't rely on other people to make her decisions for her (which was the major strain on her relationship with Mako) because it isn't fair to push the burden onto those around her because she's unsure of herself.

It felt weird to end the series the way they did IMO. In TLA they're all in the same room and Aang and Katara step out for a second. In Korra, it's Korra and Asami just leaving :/ And Mako's loyalty schpeal...so weird.

Don't worry, it didn't feel weird, it was weird.

 

[aly]

I guess then these people were just like co-workers?

Maybe they are those friends you have in high school and talk to or go out with occasionally later on?

 

[Mononoke]

So...I guess they aren't friends then? lol

I mean, I can understand the desire to get away from everyone as their romance develops. I guess it just felt weird because of the pacing. It's kind of like Man of Steel. Zod and Superman destroy the city and there's this really emotional scene. Then it abruptly shifts to a light hearted scene. That's kind of what happened with Korra I think.

It felt weird to end the series the way they did IMO. In TLA they're all in the same room and Aang and Katara step out for a second. In Korra, it's Korra and Asami just leaving :/ And Mako's loyalty schpeal...so weird.


I'm probably going in circles but I'm not thinking too clearly right now.

Your problem isn't that they didn't invite them, rather that there was no scene of them really bonding or kind of reflecting on everything as a group. So it felt like a big disconnect. They already had been apart for most of the books. So the ending with Asami being with Korra on their own, and never with all of the group, kind of solidified that the group really...wasn't friends anymore.

That is the perception you get. Since the ending only has characters off on their own. And it also gave no time or conclusion to Mako or Bolin who were supposedly pivotal members of team avatar (they got more screen time then Asami). Kind of funny, because when all is said and done, Mako and Bolin DID do more for Korra then Asami ever did. Just in terms of what they did during major battles. And yet they never got to reflect or be in any kind of conclusion of this journey Korra was on. They were just left to the side (cold).

They pretty much lay down their life for this person, that can't even bothered to give them a time of day. Pretty terrible stuff. So it makes Mako's loyal to the end line even more cringe in hindsight. Oh thank you Mako, that's nice to know you will die for me. Excuse me, going to go be with Asami now.

Also Asami not interacting with Bolin or Mako all Book 4, also made it seem like she was no longer friends with them. The whole "group" thing was actually kind of depressing when you think about it. Granted, the writing was always bad for the group. But in Book 4 you get a sense that, the group has drifted apart, and their friendship isn't really there (which logically, I guess none of them being friends including Asami and Korra never entirely made sense).

 

[televator]

Curse you all! I got sucked into all the shipping nonsense and had a big stupid grin on my face at the end. Am I... oh gawd... A shipper?!

 

[TacticalFox88]

So, are we in agreement or no that Mako still has feelings for Korra or no?

 

[Mononoke]

So, are we in agreement or no that Mako still has feelings for Korra or no?

I guess? I think Mako realized that Korra is a hothead, and they don't mix well. He told Wu and Korra that. I think he does believe it. I'm sure he does still have feelings. I think everyone still has feelings for their ex (well, unless the ex was awful and abusive...like...Korra..wait a minute!)

But yeah. I dunno. Maybe?

 

[Atraveller]

It's a big part of her realizing that at the end of the day she's the one who's the Avatar and she can't rely on other people to make her decisions for her (which was the major strain on her relationship with Mako) because it isn't fair to push the burden onto those around her because she's unsure of herself.

You and I remembered Makorra very differently. She seemed very determined on every subject, and every time Mako said something about Korra's already decided matters, she started throwing tantrums.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

The people you are friends with when you are teenagers will usually always be your friends. But you'll grow apart. That's what happened here, it was accelerated because of Korra's absence. She and Asami grew closer while she grew apart from Mako and Bolin. Such is life.

We can assume that they are going back to their lives. Bolin is going to work with Varrick doing gods know what, Mako will go back to being a detective. Lin is still the Chief of Police, Tenzin and Jinora have a reborn Air Nation to nurture. Asami has Future Industries, Korra is still the Avatar and the World still needs her.

 

[Toa TAK]

So, are we in agreement or no that Mako still has feelings for Korra or no?

Maybe Mako just wants to be left the fuck alone for awhile. I know I would after all this nonsense.

 

[Mononoke]

You and I remembered Makorra very differently. She seemed very determined on every subject, and every time Mako said something about Korra's already decided matters, she started throwing tantrums.

And launching verbal abuses. Accusing him of not having her back. Hah, my god she was crazy. She would flip off the radar in a millisecond. Very abuse relationship.

She would ask Mako for advice, and then throw a fit when his advice wasn't what she wanted.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Curse you all! I got sucked into all the shipping nonsense and had a big stupid grin on my face at the end. Am I... oh gawd... A shipper?!

It's hard not to be after that ending.

 

[JadedWriter]

LMAO

His penis and libido was like, "fuck this shit I'm out."

 

[Mononoke]

The people you are friends with when you are teenagers will usually always be your friends. But you'll grow apart. That's what happened here, it was accelerated because of Korra's absence. She and Asami grew closer while she grew apart from Mako and Bolin. Such is life.

We can assume that they are going back to their lives. Bolin is going to work with Varrick doing gods know what, Mako will go back to being a detective. Lin is still the Chief of Police, Tenzin and Jinora have a reborn Air Nation to nurture. Asami has Future Industries, Korra is still the Avatar and the World still needs her.

Yeah but that wasn't really a featured plot. So, it felt very odd for an ending. And while you are right that people grow apart, the audience still needed some closure with the "group"...even if the group wasn't no more. I dunno. Whole thing was strange.

Fact is, Korra and Asamis relationship wasn't a pivotal part of the overall story. Mako and Bolin was (they had more screentime and played a bigger role in things). Denying them of everything (closure/resolution/ reflection with Korra), and then ending it with Korra and Asami off on their own....

It feels like a big fuck you to Mako and Bolin, and just the group overall. Which that in turn kind of transfers to the audience too (you get no resolution).

I love Korrasami. I wanted them back in Book 2. But I really don't know how people can see that ending, and be satisfied purely because Korrasami. Was it nice seeing them together? Absolutely. But it wasn't a good ending by any means. There was a lot wrong by having them sectioned off, and denying the group of any closure. Those two did not earn that ending.

 

[obijkenobi]

You and I remembered Makorra very differently. She seemed very determined on every subject, and every time Mako said something about Korra's already decided matters, she started throwing tantrums.

I remember her flip flopping in whether or not she wanted his thoughts. He was legit confused about it. When Korra had a plan in place, anything Mako said would lead to the temper tantrum

 

[Atraveller]

And launching verbal abuses. Accusing him of not having her back. Hah, my god she was crazy. She would flip off the radar in a millisecond. Very abuse relationship.

She would ask Mako for advice, and then throw a fit when his advice wasn't what she wanted.

Exactly, there was no "relying others to make decisions for her".

 

[Mononoke]

Exactly, there was no "relying others to make decisions for her".

Yeah. Korra never wanted to rely on others. She wanted others to agree with what she wanted, or else.

"I am the avatar and you got to deal with it".



To be clear, I don't hate Korra. I love her overall. But Book 2 Korra was atrocious. And I don't agree the "relying on others" was ever a plot. The same way the suffering for compassion was also not a plot. Fact is, the writers dropped the ball for Korra. She had no consistent/coherent plot arc, and no proper resolution/conclusion for her overall character that tied into past arcs/plots.

 

[Toa TAK]

This is must be what Star Wars fans must feel like. George Lucas created a world and characters they love, but damn he sucks at writing it out.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Yeah. Korra never wanted to rely on others. She wanted others to agree with what she wanted, or else.

"I am the avatar and you got to deal with it".

I think the biggest thing that screwed her over was that that she knew she was the Avatar when she was like 4 years old. It's pretty obvious why in the past the sages typically waited until the Avatar turned 16 to tell them.

 

[JadedWriter]

And launching verbal abuses. Accusing him of not having her back. Hah, my god she was crazy. She would flip off the radar in a millisecond. Very abuse relationship.

She would ask Mako for advice, and then throw a fit when his advice wasn't what she wanted.

Hence why I think the experience made him asexual. The guy really hasn't expressed any type of drive to connect with a human being throughout the rest of the series.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

This is must be what Star Wars fans must feel like. George Lucas created a world and characters they love, but damn he sucks at writing it out.

Comparing the prequel trilogy to Korra is really insulting to Korra.

 

[Mononoke]

I think the biggest thing that screwed her over was that that she knew she was the Avatar when she was like 4 years old. It's pretty obvious why in the past the sages typically waited until the Avatar turned 16 to tell them.

Sure. Also, a lot of Korra's issues were the result of other people making bad decisions for her. They decided to keep her locked away from the world. She had no sense of what the world was like. The Avatar is supposed to be of the people (which is why Avatars are sent to each nation to learn that bending). That way they know of that culture, and of their wants/needs and struggles.

But Korra was denied that. So a lot of her issues stemmed from the decisions others made for her. So you can't get too mad at Korra with certain things early on. I still blame Bryke though, for how they handled some of her plot pacing. I still think they were lazy in Book 2, by making her as insufferable as possible (they said they hated her guts)...just so her redemption felt more powerful.

Hence why I think the experience made him asexual. The guy really hasn't expressed any type of drive to connect with a human being throughout the rest of the series.

This theory...is oddly starting to sound valid.

 

[Penguins&PolarBears]

Agree that Season 1 was really good with the exception of a terrible ending and a little too much pro-bending. Season 2 had it's moments like explaining the whole history of Avatars and introducing Varrick, but they were insane to think they could spend that much time with the spirit world stuff and not bore/lose their audience. After the impressive action sequences and compelling villains in season 3 I was really rooting for them to get this show back on track. I was not happy when they wrapped up Zaheer's gang so quickly as they were becoming more and more interesting. Season 4 really didn't do anything for me. It was nice to see the characters a bit older, but the overall story and relationships in season 4 were very poorly done. There are moments of brilliance in the LOK, but it never comes close to the near perfection of ATLA. LOK felt rushed all the way through and production and story telling felt extremely sloppy as result. The ending of season 3 with Jinora looking like Aang/Korra broken down from almost dying was a million times stronger than season 4's ending. I don't understand why you would intentionally produce a show where the previous season has a much bigger and more powerful ending than the series finale.

The giant mecha suit & spirit vine energy gun just brought the show to a stupid level. Maybe the concept would have worked better as a bomb. Asami's father giving his life didn't resonate like it could have if the show had had more time to breathe like ATLA. Korra didn't really spend enough time with anyone in the last 2 seasons to have a last minute relationship moment make much sense or have any meaning in the context of the story. It was all just very weak and bland from the moment Kuvira just gives up. I never really got the sense that Korra regained her full power back and it was a frustrating and depressing thing to watch through to the end.

In a way I am just glad the show is over because ultimately I didn't feel like the creators were pacing anything correctly and by the end had run out of interesting ideas/creativity/humor.


P.S. Korra was a terrible pet parent in season 4. Poor Naga, background fodder.

 

[Atraveller]

I think the biggest thing that screwed her over was that that she knew she was the Avatar when she was like 4 years old. It's pretty obvious why in the past the sages typically waited until the Avatar turned 16 to tell them.

How could you not know you can bend more than one element by the age of 16?

This is must be what Star Wars fans must feel like. George Lucas created a world and characters they love, but damn he sucks at writing it out.

Are you saying LoK is the SW episode 1~3 of the Avatar universe?

 

[aly]

Hence why I think the experience made him asexual. The guy really hasn't expressed any type of drive to connect with a human being throughout the rest of the series.

Looking at it like this makes me feel even sadder for Mako.If I were him then I would've regretted ever meeting or dealing with Korra.

 

[Toa TAK]

Are you saying LoK is the SW episode 1~3 of the Avatar universe?

I dunno, but I get the impression at times.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Exactly, there was no "relying others to make decisions for her".

I didn't word it well, the thread moves fast enough so if I take too long plotting out a post then it'll probably be irrelevant when I actually post it. She would ask for advice on things when she was really just looking for people to confirm her. After it failed to the point of destroying her relationship with Mako she learned that she needs to accept that she can't always count on people to agree with everything she wants. But there was at least one time where he pretty much told her that he didn't know what to do and she got mad at him for not telling her how to deal with her problems.

 

[Mononoke]

So Mako is the true hero? The true tragic character?

Dude is now asexual and afraid to let others in after the abuse he suffered from Korra? And then after he and his brother continue to put their life on the line for this "friend"...who can't be bothered to give them the time of day, the show ends cutting them out of the journey's conclusion and reflection with the main protagonist, so she can be off with her new girlfriend.

Damn. DAMN.

 

[Toa TAK]

The Legend of Mako: The Greatest Story Never Told

 

[Mononoke]

The Legend of Mako: The Greatest Story Never Told

I WILL ALWAYS STAY FIERCE AND LO...

Yeah that's nice, hey have you seen Asami?