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[Deku Tree]

The development history (and future) is fascinating.


I hope someone writes a tell-all one day.

Do you know the development history of Destiny?

 

[BokehKing]

You could compare Destiny to any of the WoW copycats and Destiny would still fall short.

The issue is simply that whenever you compare Destiny to any relatively well known mmo, it falls short in so many ways. Basically everything that reminds you of an mmo in Destiny is shit compared to actual mmo's. Which is the majority of the game.

Destiny has longer legs and has kept the interest of its player base better than those copy cats that fell flat 2 months later

 

[ispendtoomuchmoneyongames]

I'll give the haters this

The only TRUE expansion is the comet

Dark below and wolves of the calla should be like $10

But you know Activision..

Wolves of the Calla would be an instant must-play. Roland Deschaine DLC plz

 

[Trickster]

Destiny has longer legs and has kept the interest of its fantasy better than those copy cats that fell flat 2 months later

sources? afaik bungie have not stated how many people are actively playing Destiny.

But honestly, a billion people could play destiny every day. It would still do a lot of things objectively bad compared to the copycats

 

[BokehKing]

Wolves of the Calla would be an instant must-play. Roland Deschaine DLC plz

Hahaha someone caught it
I'm a gunslinger with my hand cannon
Aim with my mind

 

[CrackaF3tt]

In 4 raids you've managed to get every single exotic, every single raid weapon, and at least 3 pieces of raid armor?

Multiple characters of the same class means getting the pieces isnt that hard. No primary's yet till hard mode but i did get all the other raid weapons in only a few goes.

 

[BokehKing]

sources? afaik bungie have not stated how many people are actively playing Destiny.

But honestly, a billion people could play destiny every day. It would still do a lot of things objectively bad compared to the copycats

Sources? The active community is the source

Conan
SWOTOR
Rift


Those communities died faster than the landscaper coming to the rescue in the shining

 

[Dirtbag]

Remember when Bungie used to fight MS to basically release free maps for Halo 2/3... How far we've come.

I like destiny, its got its hooks in me... but they really need to improve many aspects of it if they plan on milking this hard.

 

[The Lamonster]

The development history (and future) is fascinating.


I hope someone writes a tell-all one day.

From what I've heard, it's not as sexy and exciting as everyone thinks.

 

[Garrett 2U]

Bungie:

"We heard you enjoy our DLC, so we're releasing DLC for our upcoming DLC, so you can play DLC while playing DLC!

See you starside."

 

[BokehKing]

Remember when Bungie used to fight MS to basically release free maps for Halo 2/3... How far we've come.

I like destiny, its got its hooks in me... but they really need to improve many aspects of it if they plan on milking this hard.

And that's the beauty of gaf and their message board, they read it, they know we are not 100% happy

 

[Dirtbag]

And man I'd be pretty irritated as an Xbone destiny fan. Looks like they will get all the locked out Playstation content about the comet drops, just in time for newly locked out content. ouch.

 

[Gurrry]

From what I've heard, it's not as sexy and exciting as everyone thinks.

What have you heard

 

[RetrospectiveLamb]

I am still just stunned by the asking price for all the little DLC they are adding to the game lol. You'd think they would at least add new planets

 

[Dirtbag]

And that's the beauty of gaf and their message board, they read it, they know we are not 100% happy

Well I think 100% is unreasonable. That said, I'm sure many elements of these DLC drops were mostly completed long before and they havent changed much of anything. The whole 'story' in Crota still leaves much to be desired.

I honestly have no idea what Rasputin even is and that was a story point in the DLC. Everything is so disjointed.

 

[BokehKing]

I do want to say thank you to everyone in here, you're making my day fly by and I appreciate it, feels like a Monday after having off yesterday

 

[PerezDeCorcho]

From what I've heard, it's not as sexy and exciting as everyone thinks.

Tell us what you know.

 

[Dirtbag]

I am still just stunned by the asking price for all the little DLC they are adding to the game lol. You'd think they would at least add new planets

I think it seems pretty obvious they are trying to keep new planets for the full sequels.

 

[Robdraggoo]

Yes but sometimes, just sometimes, you want to press a button that says 'Matchmaking for Raid', and get into it without having to talk to anybody. Maybe put up a warning in the front that says 'Raids are hard blah blah blah'.

But there's no reason to NOT have an easy matchmaking button in this day in age.

until somebody has a terrible experience with jerks or all kinds of problems plagued with playing online with random people. Then they decide they dont want to play it anymore based on bad experience.

I ran VOG with a random group that invited me in the tower and mygod it was horrible.

Since then I only ran it with GAF or IRL friends. Destiny GAF might be the sole reason I am still playing this game. I am not a super strong player but having a group of supprting and friendly people like we have in OT I am sure is why we still play this game. If I had to rely on matchmaking with random people online. I would have quit playing long ago. I am sure Bungie doesnt want its player base to quit based on bad experiences. which is the reason they held out on voice chat for so long.

 

[Diablohead]

I think it seems pretty obvious they are trying to keep new planets for the full sequels.

Sometimes I think cut locatons are being prepared for the sequel so it has a lot of new fresh areas and genrally feels bigger because they have more locations to use.

 

[Jarmel]

Eh, just because it didn't take them a week doesn't mean it didn't take long. Randoms who might not even have mics would have taken even longer.

I know it's not hard. Everyone calls it easy mode now, but that's because they've completed it a bajillion times. A lot of it takes good coordination which a team of people who'd never done it before would struggle to get the hang of without having to resort to yt videos or whatever.

Then there's no reason why they shouldn't implement mathmaking after a period of time.

 

[Kor of Memory]

I am still just stunned by the asking price for all the little DLC they are adding to the game lol. You'd think they would at least add new planets

I don't understand. I thought it was pretty common nowadays for shooters to charge $15 for a map pack of 3 maps.

I'm paying $17.50 for 4 missions, 3 maps, 2 strikes, and a raid. Plus a butt-ton of new gear and weapons.

 

[Wizman23]

From what I've heard, it's not as sexy and exciting as everyone thinks.

I'm sick of "faux insider" posts like this. If your going to post bullshit like this, then spill the beans.

 

[KennyLinder]

I wonder what happens with "Destiny 2". Do you just carry on with your current character, gear and weapons? Do you just launch Destiny and have all the current planets and missions available too from the first game? Or, will they be separate things entirely?

How does it work in games like WoW with major expansions?

 

[Ghazi]

I don't understand. I thought it was pretty common nowadays for shooters to charge $15 for a map pack of 3 maps.

I'm paying $17.50 for 4 missions, 3 maps, 2 strikes, and a raid. Plus a butt-ton of new gear and weapons.

The gear and weapons is available to everyone, though.

 

[Jest Chillin]

The gear and weapons is available to everyone, though.

Base gear and weapons are but not Raid gear and Weapons, which are far more coveted.

 

[ArkkAngel007]

I don't understand. I thought it was pretty common nowadays for shooters to charge $15 for a map pack of 3 maps.

I'm paying $17.50 for 4 missions, 3 maps, 2 strikes, and a raid. Plus a butt-ton of new gear and weapons.

Eh....it isn't that much, and the relevant/efficient stuff is even lower. Really disappointing batch of stuff in comparison to the vanilla content (Quality-wise; obviously the vanilla would outclass in quantity).

 

[Kor of Memory]

The gear and weapons is available to everyone, though.

No it isn't. I've seen plenty of new armor with that little expansion icon in the top corner, which I'm pretty sure is unique to expansion owners.

I wonder what happens with "Destiny 2". Do you just carry on with your current character, gear and weapons? Do you just launch Destiny and have all the current planets and missions available too from the first game? Or, will they be separate things entirely?

How does it work in games like WoW with major expansions?

Bungie has flat out said that our characters will be staying with us as we move to any sequels. What they haven't said is how it might impact our levels, light levels, or gear.

 

[Victory Red]

In 4 raids you've managed to get every single exotic, every single raid weapon, and at least 3 pieces of raid armor?

I have 3 characters (one of each class) that can do the raid.

Hunter Raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Boots

Titan raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Chest
(mk.44 exotic boots today, thanks xur)

Warlock raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Boots

I have every raid weapon that is available right now.

I have Dragons Breathe and No Land Beyond. Thanks Xur.

 

[Kor of Memory]

I have 3 characters (one of each class) that can do the raid.

Hunter Raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Boots

Titan raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Chest
(mk.44 exotic boots today, thanks xur)

Waralock raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Boots

I have every raid weapon that is available right now.

I have Dragons Breathe and No Land Beyond. Thanks Xur.

You jerk.

Titan
Gloves
Gloves
Gloves
Boots

Warlock
Gloves
Gloves
Boots

Hunter
Gloves
Boots
Boots
Cloak

As for weapons, I've gotten the Machine gun twice and nothing else.

 

[EatMyFace]

Yeah we already knew a massive DLC would come in between releases. Even the name is the same. Comet.

Sounds good to me.

 

[amar212]

I have 3 characters (one of each class) that can do the raid.

Hunter Raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Boots

Titan raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Chest
(mk.44 exotic boots today, thanks xur)

Warlock raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Boots

I have every raid weapon that is available right now.

I have Dragons Breathe and No Land Beyond. Thanks Xur.

Very, very, very, very lucky.

My team of 6 people with all weekly runs so far have only 1 player with 3-piece Raid gear, 3 people have 2 characters, and 2 of us only one with 3 pieces.

Your RNG was very handful.

 

[tmac456]

i really got burned out on it. enjoyed playing with a bunch of gaffers but in the end i grew tired of the grind

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

I have 3 characters (one of each class) that can do the raid.

Hunter Raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Boots

Titan raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Chest
(mk.44 exotic boots today, thanks xur)

Warlock raid gear:
Helmet
Gloves
Boots

I have every raid weapon that is available right now.

I have Dragons Breathe and No Land Beyond. Thanks Xur.

Do you sleep?

 

[Victory Red]

Very, very, very, very lucky.

My team of 6 people with all weekly runs so far have only 1 player with 3-piece Raid gear, 3 people have 2 characters, and 2 of us only one with 3 pieces.

Your RNG was very handful.

Eh.

You're not supposed to "beat" these games but I feel like I have.

Granted I have put in 400 hours, but I have essentially every "rare" gun in the game between Xur and RNG. I'm only missing Hard Light and Red Death, and I can live without both of those.

I hate Xur and everything he stands for. I think he ruins this game for the die-hards.

I'm not supposed to have everything I want.

 

[cakely]

I wonder what happens with "Destiny 2". Do you just carry on with your current character, gear and weapons? Do you just launch Destiny and have all the current planets and missions available too from the first game? Or, will they be separate things entirely?

How does it work in games like WoW with major expansions?

WoW and the expansions are one coherent game. All the old content is still there though some of it has been heavily revamped. There is no "WoW 2".

I strongly suspect Destiny 2 will be a new setting ... a new "Tower", new planets, new everything. As far as I know, though, no one actually can confirm how it will work.

 

[quickwhips]

WoW and the expansions are one coherent game. All the old content is still there though some of it has been heavily revamped. There is no "WoW 2".

I strongly suspect Destiny 2 will be a new setting ... a new "Tower", new planets, new everything. As far as I know, though, no one actually can confirm how it will work.

Why? Unless it becomes and MMO with a dedicated servers and no limit on people on the map there is no need to change the formula. Just keep making expansions and don't make a Destiny 2.

 

[kingwingin]

I was planning on getting back into destiny after the expansions came out, guess I won't be playing for awhile then...

 

[Trickster]

Sources? The active community is the source

Conan
SWOTOR
Rift


Those communities died faster than the landscaper coming to the rescue in the shining

You have no sources saying that Destiny doesn't have a crashing playercount though. Bungie are not releasing any active player numbers.

That's not to say Destiny might not actually have a decent active playerbase. We just don't know. But I personally think any success Destiny is still finding boils down to there being very few alternatives on consoles, combined with a playerbase that has little to no mmo experience.

Also just to point out, swotor just had a 20 dollar expansion pack release with 2 new planets, 2 raids and 4 dungeons. Same price as the dark below...

 

[Ghazi]

No it isn't. I've seen plenty of new armor with that little expansion icon in the top corner, which I'm pretty sure is unique to expansion owners.

Idk. I believe them to be available to everyone, even the stuff with an I, but I could be wrong. For example, the vendor armor has an expansion icon and everyone can buy that.

Base gear and weapons are but not Raid gear and Weapons, which are far more coveted.

Raid armor is worthless to those who don't have the DLC, there is no content for them that requires the light it gives you. You have a little more of a point with weapons, but that still isn't really much.

 

[Kor of Memory]

WoW and the expansions are one coherent game. All the old content is still there though some of it has been heavily revamped. There is no "WoW 2".

I strongly suspect Destiny 2 will be a new setting ... a new "Tower", new planets, new everything. As far as I know, though, no one actually can confirm how it will work.

Why? Unless it becomes and MMO with a dedicated servers and no limit on people on the map there is no need to change the formula. Just keep making expansions and don't make a Destiny 2.

By the time Destiny 2 were to come out we'll be sitting on around 28 some multi maps, 5 destinations, 15 strikes, and 5 raids.

There is no way they are going to be able to convince us all to trade all that in so we can go back to 9 maps, 6 strikes, and a raid that might come out a month later.

If Destiny 2 ignores all the existing Destiny content, I'll be pretty surprised.

 

[Jest Chillin]

Raid armor is worthless to those who don't have the DLC, there is no content for them that requires the light it gives you. You have a little more of a point with weapons, but that still isn't really much.

Iron Banner and likely normal Crucible after the HM raid is released and people start getting primaries from it.

People still run VoG HM for the Vex Mythoclast and Fatebringer. If even one of the primaries from Crota's End is along those lines it will be quite powerful in the PvP segment of the game.

 

[cpp_is_king]

Problems with this roadmap:

1) Nobody gives a shit about strikes
2) September is too far away
3) There's still just 1 raid
4) No level cap increase
5) No new planets
6) It'll probably be $39.99

A real expansion would have 3-4 raids, a level cap increase, new planets, and still be $39.99

 

[border]

I spent time in Destinys raids. I had fun cheesing the Templar with grenades. I also set up a group on /v/ on release day of the raid, where we got to the last boss before we called it a morning-About 6 hours into the raid.

But of course you can just make a drive by comment and say 'You haven't spent time on raids!' without actually discussing anything.

What is there to discuss? You made generalizations that simply aren't true ("mass resurrection" and "it's easy mode if you know the mechanics"). I can see someone saying that if they haven't done the raid very much.

 

[DNAbro]

Problems with this roadmap:

1) Nobody gives a shit about strikes
2) September is too far away
3) There's still just 1 raid
4) No level cap increase
5) No new planets
6) It'll probably be $39.99

A real expansion would have 3-4 raids, a level cap increase, new planets, and still be $39.99

Level cap will probably increase

 

[Jest Chillin]

Problems with this roadmap:

1) Nobody gives a shit about strikes
2) September is too far away
3) There's still just 1 raid
4) No level cap increase
5) No new planets
6) It'll probably be $39.99

A real expansion would have 3-4 raids, a level cap increase, new planets, and still be $39.99

1) Plenty of people care about strikes. Especially with the ROC playlist awarding better engrams
2) September is fine considering we still haven't even had HM of Crota's released yet.
3) There will be 3 raids before the release of Plague of Darkness and we have no clue the size of the raid in Plague.
4) Light level increase is more than enough.
5) Plague will see at least one new zone (from the leaked info). It being a "planet" or not doesn't matter.
6) $40 isn't too bad at all.

What "real" expansion has ever released with 3-4 raids on day one?

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

September!?? Should be summer 15

 

[patchday]

Although I still play the base content a little (once or twice a week), not planning on buying the first two DLCs but Comet might actually add some interesting content. Boy this game is fairly expensive...

Kind if torn destiny is a very fun game but if you're not obsessed with loot it doesn't have a tight grip on you anymore

 

[BreezyLimbo]

What is there to discuss? You made generalizations that simply aren't true ("mass resurrection" and "it's easy mode if you know the mechanics"). I can see someone saying that if they haven't done the raid very much.

You can keep reviving people over and over and over again in a Destiny raid with a 30 second timer. In WoW you only get a rez once in a fight, if it goes long enough than you get more rezzes but it depends on party size.

 

[cakely]

By the time Destiny 2 were to come out we'll be sitting on around 28 some multi maps, 5 destinations, 15 strikes, and 5 raids.

There is no way they are going to be able to convince us all to trade all that in so we can go back to 9 maps, 6 strikes, and a raid that might come out a month later.

If Destiny 2 ignores all the existing Destiny content, I'll be pretty surprised.

This is the quote we have from Deej talking about Destiny 2:
http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/12/08/bungie-on-destinys-lack-of-story-the-new-raid-and-destiny-2-psx-2014

For Destiny 2 ... the idea is that the Guardian you have created is something you can bring along with you on that adventure. If you take a look at the way people have played other games for a long period of time, they’ve had a relationship with the same character for a very long time ... there are of course cataclysmic events that can reset people's expectations of what can happen but I'm hoping I can have a long, storied relationship with , you know, my Dead Orbit warlock. I've gotten a little bit attached to that little guy.

Note that he specifically says "you can bring along your Guardian". If the entire current Destiny "Universe" was going to be a part of Destiny 2, this wouldn't even be a question. Also, the bit about "cataclysmic events" sounds like the game universe will be changing. Maybe the tower is destroyed? Who knows.

Anyway, I'm not claiming to know, I'm just saying "I suspect" that Destiny 2 will be a completely new setting, and will be released in September 2016.