I feel like the massive success of the PS4 is partially due to the Wii audience jumping into more traditional gaming. That's why I don't get the whole "PS4/XB1 sold X% better than their predecessors" saying I've heard so much. I mean, yeah, but you're also leaving out one of the main companies.
Sony announces 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles sold WW
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yeah, still the console market is not growing (notice the videogame market is), also console gaming can't depend on japan to be relevant...that is like so 80s
travisbickle
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Yeah, you're right. I was cutting off Nov 2013 with my formula.
why do people like to spout this a lot?
The Wii seemed supply constrained for a much longer period than the PS4 was, so I don't know if you can compare the first year numbers so easily. I think the PS4 won't be able to match the initial Wii craze, but it should enjoy comparatively better sales later and towards the end of its life. Who knows where we'll end up when all is said and done...
Convenient resolution.
I say it will definitely end up outselling the Wii solely because it will have longer legs, but it will never be able to match the Wii craze at its peak.
We'll have to wait until next year to really see how popular it will be with the general public.
anecdotal evidence but that does seem to be the case from what I've seen. My lil' bro and his friends mostly play on their Ipads, even with PS4s and Wii Us around.
Nintendo as well. The sooner they can drop the Wii U the better for them.
Yeah. Sure it helped the Wii U a bit in japan but by no means did it save it.
ArkkAngel007
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It's bound to be multiple things. Gaming has become a far more acceptable of a hobby (at least in teenager/young adults) the past several years, no small part likely due to the Wii and mobile/social network games. A lot of good marketing (feels like every half dozen commercials is Greatness Awaits). Yes, casuals making the transition, even if it's just for EA Sports or Activision shooters. People can also be jumping in earlier and front loading adoption rates.
With that said though, there's nothing conclusive to say it's down to the Wii audience acquiring a core-gaming/traditional taste.
GarciaHotspur
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Why people say " It must be 20 millions now " ? Are not the numbers stopped by yesterday ?
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Nintendo is the soul of the gaming industry, without them none of this would be possible. They create a new generation of gamers with every console. Their games are timeless.
What???
Yeah, that is my opinion as well. I don't think all the Wii owners jumped onto traditional consoles, though... But I do think a decent chunk of them have. PC's current growth as a gaming platform feels independent of prior successes, and mobile's growth naturally is drawing strength from the decline of the handheld market.
Apart from the NES after the crash.their significance is dwindling and has been since the 90's.
PlayStation has created more new generations of gamers the past 20 years than Nintendo.
Gambit 1138
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Sony is the soul of the gaming industry, without them we would be trapped in a Nintendo-Sega controlled shithole of an industry.
I think this will happen in the long run as well, simply because the developer support is not going to dry up after thirty six months. Wii will outpace it for the early years. Once it gets to the back half of the cycle and all of the third party software that people want is there along with a very mainstream MSRP, the lifetime sales wil be a huge leap over PS3.
I think it will still be tens of millions of units short of PS2 though. This is not the cycle where emerging markets will make up for Japan being a wasteland. Considering the added revenue streams with DLC, PS+ subscriptions, etc. it will balance out. But if Sony has to GO TO CAPCOM to make something like SFV happen, everybody should get used to western companies ruling the market. Japanese publishers seem to have made some bad bets in recent years.
StarlordDial
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uhhhhhh
The Wii audience up and disappeared in the most,.Nintendo shrunk back down to their core numbers (even less than previous) and the fly by night "gamers" the Wii brought more likely play mobile games if any.
Moms and grandparents are not buying PS4 and Oprah ain't pushing it either.
You are really barking up the wrong tree with that theory.
TheCarrotKiller
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Just woke up now and wow, that's some mighty impressive numbers!
Well deserved, love my launch unit and has given me so many great moments, and the really big hitters are left to go. Amazing.
Well deserved, love my launch unit and has given me so many great moments, and the really big hitters are left to go. Amazing.
Zombie James
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Holy shit, that's incredible.
GarciaHotspur
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The Xbox One must be at least at 10 millions so i don't see where is the 2:1.
This is based on what?
Hydrargyrus
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Glad for Sony. They deserve this sales, but this next year, with Bloodborne, Uncharted and the rest is going to be even more impressive
ConanTheKing
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Playstation always seems to bring out it's best titles towards the end of a console generation, probably because they still spend resources supporting the previous generation for several years into the new one.
It will be interesting to see if they have enough momentum (and balls) to go another year without cutting the price.
Well people are using the date we already have for the Xbone and trying to extrapolate from that since MS are keeping quiet. Xbone at 9.25m sold through WW is 2:1, so I can entirely see that as possible.
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Congratulations to Sony, as the Playstation 4 has done a lot right since it's launch, & it's developing an excellent library of games. 'Mercenary Kings' & Journey are two of my favourite games for the console.
Meanwhile, at Nintendo....
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Death Metalist
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For a console with not that much exclusives (that goes for X1 as well, only WiiU has an impressive library of quality exclusive games), it's pretty impressive. Then again, I'm not surprised. Microsoft shot themselves in the foot beginning of the generation. Congrats Sony!
I wouldn't say the "stereotypical" Xbox fan would include games like Ori, Sunset Overdrive, D4 and Inside. Don't have one yet but these sorts of games appeal to me whist halo, call of duty and gears etc don't (I.e the stereotype). I'm glad they're choosing that direction too cos it'll push me over the edge to get one eventually.
As for the sales; amazing job. Love my PS4 and I'm looking forward to the next few months worth of games ;D
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Grinchy
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hahaha
You assume it was just moms and grandparents when you forget the children's market the Wii must have as well to be the success it was as a family console... Assuming a boy was 10 when the Wii launched, he would be 18 now and in line with PS4's and XB1's intended audience. I can certainly see 18 year olds who may have started gaming with the Wii purchasing a PS4 and wanting more mature games than what mobile nowadays can give. Even people younger than 18 who started gaming with the Wii might still want a PS4 because they want to be seen as mature. The current success PC and mobile have are due to the current-day children, not the childrens who started gaming with the Wii but moved to more mature games.
Makoto-Yuki
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Damn! Well done Sony.
I know a lot of people who are still waiting to buy a PS4. I think most people will hold out for a couple years after launch before upgrading. So this is really good news! Can't wait for 20 million!
I know a lot of people who are still waiting to buy a PS4. I think most people will hold out for a couple years after launch before upgrading. So this is really good news! Can't wait for 20 million!