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#DEFLATEGATE: Goodell never had any balls

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could we say that the "balls" being deflated worked in the favour of the pats and helped them solidify a win or is that beyond the point and speculation and just punish for the fact that the ball was deflated?

When they fixed the balls the patriots did better, so that is pretty much beyond the point. Just fine them and move on.
 
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If the Patriots did this, it is because they thought it was an advantage. They broke rules in an attempt to create an unfair advantage. To me the intent and the act mean more than the outcome. To me, it's similar to steroids in Baseball. People will swear up and down that steroids don't make it any easier to hit a baseball. But that didn't keep players from using in an attempt to gain an advantage.
To you and anyone else with a lick of sense.
 
If the NFL had any evidence they would have made a statement by now.

Last I checked this was America, and you are innocent until proven guilty motherfuckers.
 
I still find this hard to believe as intentional. I can't imagine a ball boy deflating balls on the sidelines during a game. I can see the Patriots (or any team) pumping the balls to whatever their QB likes within regs. If that means pumping them up to the minimum, then I can see it easily getting deflated during a game.

It's just too easy to get caught. Ball turnovers happen all the time.
 
I still find this hard to believe as intentional. I can't imagine a ball boy deflating balls on the sidelines during a game. I can see the Patriots (or any team) pumping the balls to whatever their QB likes within regs. If that means pumping them up to the minimum, then I can see it easily getting deflated during a game.

It's just too easy to get caught. Ball turnovers happen all the time.


Stop using reason here! This is no place for that!
 
I still find this hard to believe as intentional. I can't imagine a ball boy deflating balls on the sidelines during a game. I can see the Patriots (or any team) pumping the balls to whatever their QB likes within regs. If that means pumping them up to the minimum, then I can see it easily getting deflated during a game.

It's just too easy to get caught. Ball turnovers happen all the time.

All 11 besides the Kicker's ball to the same exact PSI? Lol.
 
I still find this hard to believe as intentional. I can't imagine a ball boy deflating balls on the sidelines during a game. I can see the Patriots (or any team) pumping the balls to whatever their QB likes within regs. If that means pumping them up to the minimum, then I can see it easily getting deflated during a game.

It's just too easy to get caught. Ball turnovers happen all the time.

I can believe that they'd get deflated a bit during a game. After all, these are 300 pound men manhandling it. But a decrease of 2 PSI, when a normal ball only has ~13 PSI? Modern footballs can't be that fragile or poorly designed. Especially when the opposing team's footballs were at the normal PSI.

Having 11 out of 12 being deflated also makes me suspect that they kept one good "exemplar" one just to present to the refs to maintain the illusion of compliance.
 
Brady before: I like my balls under-inflated

Brady today: I can't even tell the difference
I take it as he likes them at the bare minimum, which is 12.5 PSI. That's the lowest the NFL allows. A lot of QBs likely use more, so he calls it "under-inflated" in comparison to the standard. Keep in mind the range is 12.5 to 13.5 PSI.
 
During the press conference Brady said he picked out 24 balls, but the initial report said that 11 of 12 were under inflated. Is it 12 or 24? I'm so confused.

The NFL needs to hurry up with this shit.
 
All 11 besides the Kicker's ball to the same exact PSI? Lol.

Maybe I missed something, but were the exact PSI numbers released?

I can believe that they'd get deflated a bit during a game. After all, these are 300 pound men manhandling it. But a decrease of 2 PSI, when a normal ball only has ~13 PSI? Modern footballs can't be that fragile or poorly designed. Especially when the opposing team's footballs were at the normal PSI.

Having 11 out of 12 being deflated also makes me suspect that they kept one good "exemplar" one just to present to the refs to maintain the illusion of compliance.

So they did examine the Colts balls? Did they also examine the 12 "backup" balls?
 
The bigger story is that the league has not contacted Brady yet. Goodell promised he would be more thorough in his investigations but it's clear the NFL still has no idea what it's doing.
 
If the NFL had any evidence they would have made a statement by now.

Last I checked this was America, and you are innocent until proven guilty motherfuckers.
11 out of 12 balls controlled by the Pats being deflated.

That's evidence bro.

The only thing I learned today is that Pats fans are incredibly dumb.

Not going to post this again because I am typing this shit on a iPhone.
 
I just love the fact that Tom says he requests his footballs to be at 12.5 PSI because that's how he likes them, but then he keeps saying how he couldn't notice that the balls were underinflated, he just goes out and throws the ball.

What a fucking cheating dishonest scumbag.
 
During the press conference Brady said he picked out 24 balls, but the initial report said that 11 of 12 were under inflated. Is it 12 or 24? I'm so confused.

The NFL needs to hurry up with this shit.

They use 24 for bullshit weather games. 12 back ups.

Also, it was corrected that 12 of the initial 12 were under inflated. The back ups were fine.
 
Adam Schefter made a good point. The refs all touched the football in both 1st and 2nd half, but they didn't notice a difference. That is pretty weird
 
11 out of 12 balls controlled by the Pats being deflated.

That's evidence bro.

The only thing I learned today is that Pats fans are incredibly dumb.

Not going to post this again because I am typing this shit on a iPhone.

None of that was confirmed, it's all rumors that the anti-Pats brigade is running with.
 
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