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How do African Americans feel about white American culture?
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that's an avatar quote if i've ever seen one
Thunder Monkey
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White culture is whatever we can steal from another culture duh.
"Why is Hip Hop so misunderstood" ?
"Because of racism" !
Why is Country music so misunderstood?
"Because of racism" !
Why is Country music so misunderstood?
Because Country music needs any help being represented?
Massive Duck. C.M.
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c'mon roy, you know how often country music and musicians are maligned in the media
Thunder Monkey
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Because it's generally crap.
Except for Achy Breaky Heart.
That was a masterpiece of mullets, barely moving simplistic dance routines, and vapid melody.
Jawbreaker
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This thread is enlightening. I hope the mods keep it open a bit longer.
pokeystaples
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Hey! Neon Moon is a much better song than Achy Breaku Heart.
CrocMother
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It seems like the more privileged the people, the more fragmented the culture.
Money gives you options. One rich person might like snowboarding, another scuba diving.
If you have a minority that is largely poor, their interests and culture is going to be more homogeneous, because they don't have the money to diversify as much.
And the people with money (and time) get to cherry pick whatever bits of culture they fancy, including that which a large minority group associates with.
So what do poor white people like? Wrestling, NASCAR, you can stereotype all you want. But I think due to the lack of oppression that poor minority groups are subjected to, they might feel less inclined to take their culture as a strong part of their identity.
Although there are certainly a lot of white people that would be bigoted towards a black race car driver.
Money gives you options. One rich person might like snowboarding, another scuba diving.
If you have a minority that is largely poor, their interests and culture is going to be more homogeneous, because they don't have the money to diversify as much.
And the people with money (and time) get to cherry pick whatever bits of culture they fancy, including that which a large minority group associates with.
So what do poor white people like? Wrestling, NASCAR, you can stereotype all you want. But I think due to the lack of oppression that poor minority groups are subjected to, they might feel less inclined to take their culture as a strong part of their identity.
Although there are certainly a lot of white people that would be bigoted towards a black race car driver.
AllIsOneIsNone
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White culture in the U.S. is not something you can point out, you have to be more specific if you want anything constructive to come out of a thread. This one is just begging for a mess.
When I was a junior I wouldn't even look in race threads
I'll give a go at answering, though. Please don't eviscerate me if I make generalizations, as they're somewhat unavoidable when talking about a large group.
First, Jewish culture generally values achievement in business, or expertise in a chosen profession. Entertainment is a lucrative industry, and it has a long, generally accepting (and even celebrant) history of Jewish producers and directors.
Secondly, as a people, they've had a great deal of hardship committed against them. One of the only things you can do when faced with that kind of persecution is laugh about it. That's why much Jewish humour is dry and fatalistic.
God I hope I did that fairly
AllIsOneIsNone
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terrisus
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He's not a Junior because of lack of time elapsed since registering, or lack of posts...
roosters93
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If it was just that I would have written, "you asked a silly question".
As you said about the other matter, paraphrasing, that I perceived your question to be silly wasn't the point, I was seeking the perspective of the person I was talking to (you).
I may have spoken too tersely to be fully understood.
You come off how you present yourself. Be safe out there gaf.
I mean how are we suppose to feel. White culture is the default, it's everywhere on tv, in books, movies, etc. Hell try to make a decent looking minority character in any game with a create a character mode. You got 40 different elf hairstyles but 3 black hairstyles Afro, bald head, and dreads.
gutter_trash
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white American culture?
so an Italian-American of 2nd generation has the exact same culture as 4th generation American of Anglo or Scots-Irish descent?
Plus, OP ignoring the vast regional differneces from different parts of the country. You got your New Orleans, your Boston, your New York, your Salt Lake City, your San Diego with all different cultural make ups
so an Italian-American of 2nd generation has the exact same culture as 4th generation American of Anglo or Scots-Irish descent?
Plus, OP ignoring the vast regional differneces from different parts of the country. You got your New Orleans, your Boston, your New York, your Salt Lake City, your San Diego with all different cultural make ups
Hell, which game is this you're thinking of where you can create a character with a halfway decent looking fro?
Yea im a junior because...
Wait, why am I?
Anyways, back on topic, I guess the Comedy thing makes sense.
2K series is only one off top that does a fairly good job.
Wish I could find a picture of the struggle corn rows they use to have in Tony Hawk games.
CrazyDogg77
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And the 3 black hairstyles look worse
Didn't say they were good, they always clip. My money to any dev that allows me create a wizard with some good twists.
where?
soundscream
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How many GB of GDDR5 do we need to get a decent fade in gaming.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Family Matters, Sister Sister, Smart Guy, and Hangin' with Mr. Cooper don't show black culture, and I would say the Fresh Prince of Bel Air motions in its direction without showing what it really is. I don't know about the Jeffersons.
More modern shows like One On One and the Tyler Perry shows are a bit closer, but they're still made to be palatable and easily digested by a white audience. TV doesn't show black culture in any meaningful way.
You're talking about Go-Gurt and stuff? That stuff is basically candy. It's all artificial.
You want some Greek or Bulgarian white culture. That's the real stuff.
Of course, with how many of these high quality yogurt brands are making their stuff in upstate New York nowadays, you might have an argument in saying it now belongs to America as well.
Anyway, these white cultures are really healthy and everyone should appreciate them, including African Americans.
If it makes you feel better, some of us put that shit in our hair. Its a high quality option for any kind of natural hair regimen.
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Why do you think they didn't show Black culture?
The majority of those sitcoms had some episodes about racism/social issues.
we're the culture the world deserves, but no the one it needs right now. so they'll hunt us. because we can take it. because we're not their hero. we're a silent guardian. a watchful protector. a white knight.
As a white dude, I think the fact that it's hard to isolate white culture down to a stereotype is actually one of our invisible privileges. Being the majority allows us to have all of these recognized sub-groups and cultures that are widely understood and respected. A white dude whose family is from Germany will have a very different culture than a white dude whose family is from Ireland or Spain, and that's understood and respected by other ethnicities.
On the flip side, there's a huge cultural difference between black people from the south, from the north, black people from the Caribbean, black people from Latin America (and within that, a ton of cultural variations), not to mention black people whose family only recently (within the last generation or so) left Africa. Using food as an example (the great racial uniter, if you ask me), what I experience at the Ethiopian spot I like and the soul food restaurant I like is radically different. But lots of folks (white or otherwise) will just lump everything into "black culture." Doesn't really seem fair to me. I think "black culture" is often used as a shorthand for "black inner-city culture," and even that's a huge oversimplification.
When I hear someone say, "Wow, that's super white," I usually hear that as, "Wow, that's so corny" or "Wow, that's so lame." But I guess "Wow, that's so black" or "Wow, that's so Asian" doesn't sound too good, either.
I don't fucking know - just be kind and courteous and enjoy the wonderful diversity to be found in this country.
On the flip side, there's a huge cultural difference between black people from the south, from the north, black people from the Caribbean, black people from Latin America (and within that, a ton of cultural variations), not to mention black people whose family only recently (within the last generation or so) left Africa. Using food as an example (the great racial uniter, if you ask me), what I experience at the Ethiopian spot I like and the soul food restaurant I like is radically different. But lots of folks (white or otherwise) will just lump everything into "black culture." Doesn't really seem fair to me. I think "black culture" is often used as a shorthand for "black inner-city culture," and even that's a huge oversimplification.
When I hear someone say, "Wow, that's super white," I usually hear that as, "Wow, that's so corny" or "Wow, that's so lame." But I guess "Wow, that's so black" or "Wow, that's so Asian" doesn't sound too good, either.
I don't fucking know - just be kind and courteous and enjoy the wonderful diversity to be found in this country.
While I wouldn't go to the length you have in hyperbole, I sincerely hope that this thread hasn't become toxic to our members of fair tone. If you would, please, point to some posts you feel are racist. This thread shouldn't be hateful, but a learning experience.
Yeah the fact that "white culture" is ill defined is to me proof of white privilege. It's probably one of the best proofs of it. The hope though is that this mass media majority culture becomes ever increasingly multicultural. Extending the privilege of participation to everyone.
A fair number of white people don't seem to have a good grasp on what the privilege is though. It's easy to jump to conclusions and say I'm not privileged because you compare yourself to more fortunate, or feel you've worked hard for what you have. But life should always be about struggle and working towards your achievements. Some peoples struggles are up steeper hills though. I think Bill O'reilly and John Stewart's talk on the subject really exemplifies the difficulty people have rectifying the mere concept of this privilege. They make it hard to approach the subject without conflating feelings and tangential issue into it.
CrazyDogg77
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Who is being racist?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Metal certainly has a huge percentage of its fans being white Europeans or white Americans, but there seems to be some enjoyment of metal in Asian countries now.
It probably is part of white culture though, but an extreme niche of it.
This one for starters: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=149134616&postcount=204
And the numerous people insinuating that white people have no culture.
Notice something about those? You saw black people on tv in the 1980s and 1990s then blip them they were gone. Except for bit parts.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
No, I don't think they did, at least not in any of the shows from before the 00's. I've never been around a black person and thought "they match an archetype that a sitcom has tried to meaningfully portray" or "this person's personality as influenced by culture is shown in character in a TV show I've seen."
Racism and social issues are also not things that I think of as integral to black culture. They influence it, but only because black people here live among other subcultures and white superculture.
The Boondocks, Martin, Good Times, Moesha, Bernie Mac Show, and Everybody Hates Chris I think are great examples of black culture.
CrazyDogg77
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Are white people joking about white people racist?
it's okay cause that one black character is the slick eye-rolling above the bullshit straight shooter while every other character is a ruinous collection of personality faults.
See now that comment is entirely out of line.
However, I feel those saying white people have no culture are trying to say that there isn't neccessarily a unified culture but rather one made up of multiple nationalities.
Thunder Monkey
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More like stereotypes of whitey: the thread.
Guys I'm white as a ghost. Hell, all the ghosts I know ask me if I'm feeling well because I'm so pale.
"White culture" is so easy to mock. Big batch of nothing. Endemic institutionalized racism is one of our gifts to our own countrymen.
So we are totally worthy of ridicule. Even the light mocking seen in this thread.
I and others were taking the piss earlier on. Know the difference your life might just depend on it.
Not sure I really understand. Are you trying to say the characters didn't act "Black enough"? I mean, all of those shows had some episodes dealing with Black music, "urban" fashion trends, family gatherings (with soul food) while at the same time also showing that Black people go through issues that many other people/races grow through -- issues dealing with growing up or trying to raise a family.
Those shows were much better than the garbage that was on channels like UPN at the time (like "Homeboyz in Outer Space" lol).
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So basically the more "urban" oriented shows are better in terms of Black culture? Don't think that I really agree... Many of the shows you mentioned had pretty much the same (pretty cliche) episode story lines that shows like Family Matters, Smart Guy, & Fresh Prince had. The only difference was pretty much the fact that those shows had more of a "hip-hop/urban" presentation or tone.
Pinko Marx
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I definitely regret making that thread now.
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