Nintendo Explains Where Tingle Came From
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thomasmahler
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Mauricio_Magus
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What the fuck?
SerTapTap
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Yeah I don't really get that at all. I guess people might misread the way he's talking about "fairies" in Majora's Mask? ...even though it's incredibly obvious he's referring to the mythological creature. That or the tights?
Probably fits their rather degrading "image" of gay people.
Probably because he is flamboyant
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Isn't Tingle a caricature of someone at Nintendo?
Also, don't forget, the Tingle in Zelda and the Tingle in the Tingle games isn't the same individual. The latter is actually a regular dude "cursed" into becoming Tingle.
I don't think people are necessarily homophobic for thinking he was meant to be a gay caricature, a lot of Japanese media has characters like that that embody the "Hard Gay" idea.
It didn't help he called himself a Fairy, which was a common gay pejorative back then.
Also, don't forget, the Tingle in Zelda and the Tingle in the Tingle games isn't the same individual. The latter is actually a regular dude "cursed" into becoming Tingle.
I don't think people are necessarily homophobic for thinking he was meant to be a gay caricature, a lot of Japanese media has characters like that that embody the "Hard Gay" idea.
It didn't help he called himself a Fairy, which was a common gay pejorative back then.
Tingle copies a lot of really popularized okama style mannerisms that people associate with homosexual actions.
It's kind of complicated because it's fine if he is gay and it's fine if he's not, but to call his behavior which edges the stereotypical stage idea of a gay character "weird" is sort of reductive.
But whatever. The whole point is to not think about it too closely or the whole character collapses in on itself.
backflip10019
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It's always so weird to me when people feel the need to continuously harp on a fictional video game character's sexuality.
Pretty much.
Prevolition
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Tingle, Tingle, Kooloo-Limpah!
Who's "we"? Every single person in the world knows who Aonuma is? Everyone who plays Zelda knows who Aonuma is?
Headline is fine.
LurkerPrime
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...It's set in Hyrule, a land where fairies and monsters are real. It's a big, ridiciulous leap in logic.
No kidding.
At least we have Kotaku here to ask all the tough questions.
Arkage
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Because it would be interesting if Nintendo had a gay character to compliment the obvious heterosexual norms in all their other games?
LonelyGreyWolf
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Well this was disappointing. I was hoping they would talk about the design of the character.
Also,
What kind of weird question is that? On that note, are there even any homosexual Nintendo characters?
Also,
What kind of weird question is that? On that note, are there even any homosexual Nintendo characters?
You don't want that character to be Tingle.
Ask about Ganondorf if you really want to take a shot in the dark. The only male Gerudo, who leaves his land? Inquire about that.
For the same reason that people are saying, "What is with this line of questioning, oh Kotaku", instead of "oh Totillo"
thecouncil
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Was "bitches" actually written in the game or something? What is going on here?
I would love an OOT based Ganondorf origin story. I want it almost as much as a platinum made character action game starring Sheik.
Yup. It's just the distorted media image of gay men is overly flamboyant so some people make inaccurate assumptions.
I personally think he's just a confident dude who rakes in the dough.
And maybe a slight creeper.
The Giant
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Americans.
ShadowElliot
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That question wouldn't have been asked if Rosy Rupeeland was released in NA. The plot of the game is to get girls...
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Rupeeland isn't the game where the objective is for Tingle to hook up (although that does happen), it's for him to make a lot of Rupees. The sequel, Balloon Trip of Love, is the one where hooking up takes center stage.
And once more, in those games, "Tingle" is a regular guy who is turned into Tingle through magic. So he seems to be distinctly different from the Tingle featured in Majora's Mask, who doesn't show any romantic inclinations. Wind Waker Tingle, through the Tingle Tuner, does show interest in girls, specifically Medli and Aryll. So, technically Tingle hooking up with girls in the Tingle games doesn't necessarily say anything about Tingle in Majora's Mask.
Some people think Ike was written this way. I haven't played the Radiant series enough to say if this is true or false.
Also, a lot of people read Steven and Wallace's relationship in Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire, and by extension ORAS, as them being more than friends, I recall. But that may just be because Wallace is overtly flamboyant, and Steven is the only character he interacts with besides the player.
And once more, in those games, "Tingle" is a regular guy who is turned into Tingle through magic. So he seems to be distinctly different from the Tingle featured in Majora's Mask, who doesn't show any romantic inclinations. Wind Waker Tingle, through the Tingle Tuner, does show interest in girls, specifically Medli and Aryll. So, technically Tingle hooking up with girls in the Tingle games doesn't necessarily say anything about Tingle in Majora's Mask.
Some people think Ike was written this way. I haven't played the Radiant series enough to say if this is true or false.
Also, a lot of people read Steven and Wallace's relationship in Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire, and by extension ORAS, as them being more than friends, I recall. But that may just be because Wallace is overtly flamboyant, and Steven is the only character he interacts with besides the player.
Ban Puncher
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"Polygon have been killing it lately. We need to get back on top of being at the bottom."
Impeccable
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All I have ever read about Tingle was people questioning his sexuality. Back when the game came out.
I do not see a problem with the question in this instance. It has been widely speculated.
I do not see a problem with the question in this instance. It has been widely speculated.
What's normative? Virtually all mainline Nintendo characters have platonic relationships open to interpretation. Sexual orientation is not really a factor in their identities because there are no bedroom scenes.
Willy Wanka
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Rosy Rupeeland makes it pretty clear he isn't gay but he is quite camp and very creepy.
NinjaBoiX
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Space Runaway
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I dunno but at one point Birdo was the closest until they retconned him into a female.
balladofwindfishes
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I thought he was supposed to be bizarro-world Link, like most of the Majora's Mask characters.
Like Link if he grew up without a fairy in a forest of children and grew weirdly obsessed with not having one. He never properly grew up because of the whole immortal perma-children of the forest thing. He still thinks he's a fairy child without a fairy (which is exactly what Tingle thinks he is)
Like Link if he grew up without a fairy in a forest of children and grew weirdly obsessed with not having one. He never properly grew up because of the whole immortal perma-children of the forest thing. He still thinks he's a fairy child without a fairy (which is exactly what Tingle thinks he is)
But there is a game in which he is trying to get some hot babes and got married... Rosy Rupeeland me thinks.
Edit: Also what kind of messy questions?
Well, I was taking the piss out of the whole gangsta talk thing. Dunno about the other guy though...
ShockingAlberto
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Realizing a lot of Tingle hatred in the last 15 years was mostly perceived homophobia took me far longer than it should have.
Now now, you could interpret Rosy Rupeeland to be an origin story to all that is Tingle. ;p
I was joking. It's a shit question though.