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ZeroX03 said:
Again if they do Flashpoint Paradox, the focus will be on Flash and his mother and Oliver and Robert. Joker and world war stories will probably be gone but those are mostly ancillary. You could replace Merlyn's earthquake machine for city destruction.

Can you imagine Robert giving Oliver a letter saying he's proud of him for surviving and saving the city? The feels would be so good.
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And it'd be fucking spectacular for Moira to take Martha Wayne's place in that story. The actress would kill that material.
 
Gothos said:
So wait, last episode Cisco said he had a match for the DNA of the yellow speedster in Barry's house. We got whole episode and they still didn't tell us who it was. LAME.
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I'm pretty sure they said one sample couldn't find a match or something and the other was Barry's.
 
ZeroX03 said:
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Have you actually watched S1 Arrow recently? What about it is so good other than the Merlyn and Helena episodes? Even Helena is disliked by a bunch of GAF.

Trying to compare staff by credits is a bullshit endeavor when you don't know much about the behind the scenes. You know The Flash and Arrow are room written, right? Seasonal arcs are planned with the EPs, at best you can blame weaker pacing and more awkward dialog on specific writers. Also both shows use the same stunt company and crew. You also appear to be using IMDB credits and not actual show credits, because Berlanti, Kreisberg and Guggenheim are still EPs on Arrow.
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FIRESTORM ON ARROW.......PLEASE CW PLEASSSSEEEEE
 
Mario007 said:
Then again the whole point of Flashpoint is that it does change things. And if Flashpoint is happening and we're replacing Batman with GA, then Oliver needs to get a note from his dad which would surely have a huge impact on him.
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Yeah but what I'm saying is Arrow, the show, continues like normal, we see it from Ollie's POV, which is that nothing changed, then Barry turns up with note.

Easy way to do Flashpoint without altering Arrow, especially during new season start which is important.
 
Looks like Grodd is taking revenge on Lex Luthor for what happened at the end of JLU here.

RE: Flashpoint: I think it can be done as a standalone episode or two. Arrow is going to be one episode ahead of Flash as of next week. If they want to sync the schedules again, they can just do Flashpoint on a week when Arrow is off, and then they won't have to do anything with the Arrow characters until the storyline is finished.
 
Holy crap just caught up and watched the promo for the next episode..

Can't wait to see how Cisco
deals with the Reverse Flash revelation, because it looks like he's right there with Wells demonstrating it to him... how does he get away?
 
Any mistakes?

List of Flash/Arrow characters who know Barry's secret identity:

Main/good characters
- Joe West
- Henry Allen
- Caitlin Snow
- Cisco Ramone
- Dr. Harrison Wells
- Ronnie Raymond
- Dr. Martin Stein
- Clarissa Stein
- General Wade Eiling

Arrow characters
- Oliver Queen/Arrow
- John Diggle
- Felicity Snow
- Roy Harper

Villains
- Clyde Mardon/Weather Wizard (sees Barry unmasked before being shot by Joe)
- Bette Sans Souci/Plastique (killed by Eiling)
- Tony Woodward/Girder (killed by Blackout)
- Farooq Gibran/Blackout (not explicit but he probably figured it out after seeing Barry disappear and the Flash appear. Killed by The Flash)

List of characters who don't or didn't know:

Main characters
- Iris West
- Eddie Thawne
lol

Villains
- Hartley Rathaway/Pied Piper (hasn't said it but probably knows)
- Kyle Nimbus/Mist
- Leonard Snart/Captain Cold
- Mick Rory/Heat Wave
- Danton Black/Multiplex (died)
- Simon Stagg (killed by Wells)
- Roy G.Bivolo/Chroma/Rainbow Raider (imprisoned at STAR Labs)
- Shawna Baez/Peek-a-boo (maybe. Pretty sure she sees Barry unmasked but we don't know if she figured it out)

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People currently imprisoned in STAR Labs
- The Mist
- Blackout (are they just keeping his dead body there?)
- Peek-a-boo
- Roy G. Bivolo

Formerly imprisoned
- Pied Piper
- Girder
 
ItsThatAsianBoy said:
I don't think Cap Cold and co. Has powers any more though, right?
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Yeah, it was taken in the Forever Evil crossover I believe (where I actually learned that they even have super powers). But still, it was a stupid idea in the first place. The rogues don't need inherent super powers. It's like giving a Robin superman powers. There is just no point.
 
JokerAceX said:
FIRESTORM ON ARROW.......PLEASE CW PLEASSSSEEEEE
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It's shitty they have this grounded in reality crap for Arrow when you have Firestorm, Grodd, time travel on Flash. Arrow's season 2 was awesome because they embraced the comic book roots with the whole Mirakuru thing.

Arrow should have metahumans, too. I'd like to see Ollie fight dudes with powers in the show. It's dumb that no metahumans show up on Starling. You can have a gritty, dark show and still have dudes with powers.
 
I mean, Brick was kind of a meta human, wasn't he. Did they ever explain in the show how he was merely annoyed by bullets and arrows?
 
Volimar said:
At the time it was explained as a licensing thing. Smallville was a different property than Superman so they were allowed to show the Superman crest but he was not allowed to wear it. The only concession was very briefly during the finale. But maybe that explanation was bullshit.
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It totally is, they were doing far too much teasing to not actually use the suit. The thing is though the one they borrowed was from Superman Returns so Welling had no chance of wearing that one but then they didn't make him one either. Welling didn't want to wear the suit and they went so far as to put his head on Routh's CG model from the Superman Returns game to get around it.

ZeroX03 said:
Superman Returns and Batman Begins both disrupted things I think, certain properties were out of bounds.
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Batman sure but that's because Michael Uslan seems to be pretty protective over the rights when it comes to Batman appearing in things outside of Batman. But Superman, I doubt it seeing how cool Singer was with helping the show, Singer was pretty much the reason it didn't get cancelled before Superman Returns came out and his crew also worked with the show's crew on creating their FoS set.

Chariot said:
Yeah, it was taken in the Forever Evil crossover I believe (where I actually learned that they even have super powers). But still, it was a stupid idea in the first place. The rogues don't need inherent super powers. It's like giving a Robin superman powers. There is just no point.
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Heh, heh, heh.
 
PHOENIXZERO said:
It totally is, they were doing far too much teasing to not actually use the suit. The thing is though the one they borrowed was from Superman Returns so Welling had no chance of wearing that one but then they didn't make him one either. Welling didn't want to wear the suit and they went so far as to put his head on Routh's CG model from the Superman Returns game to get around it.
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That's really what they used for CGI Superman in Smallville? The character model from a video game?

TV visual effects have progressed so much, the CGI on this show is always impressive. I'd even say that the Firestorm effects are better than the Human Torch effects from the F4 movies
 
Yo Firestorm coming together and wrecking shit, then flying off with his main man Flash had my goddamn eyeballs glued to my TV

LET'S KEEP THIS GOING - Oh god, PISS OFF IRIS

Jesus Barry, Barry no don't do shit OHHHHHHHHH WE REVERSE FLASHIN NOW

AND GRODDING NOW, LET'S FUCKIN GO
 
Error said:
It's shitty they have this grounded in reality crap for Arrow when you have Firestorm, Grodd, time travel on Flash. Arrow's season 2 was awesome because they embraced the comic book roots with the whole Mirakuru thing.

Arrow should have metahumans, too. I'd like to see Ollie fight dudes with powers in the show. It's dumb that no metahumans show up on Starling. You can have a gritty, dark show and still have dudes with powers.
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Apparently they're coming, but given Greg's change of heart, don't expect it until late Season 3 or Season 4.
 
JokerAceX said:
This is the New 52 Grodd with speed force....also Captain Cold and few other Rogues actually have powers now

Also Flash working with the Rogues
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We know, that's what we were discussing.

And Flash has worked alongside the Rogues many times before the New 52. I'm pretty sure in Johns' books he worked alongside Cold more than against.

Neoxon said:
Apparently they're coming, but given Greg's change of heart, don't expect it until late Season 3 or Season 4.
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More like episode 19.
 
Yo, that episode was fucking on point! I love how they fuse together, its the coolest thing. It sucks that Arrow has been kinda disappointing, but this show has been killing it since the mid season.
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SniperHunter said:
this show keeps getting better and better.

i didn''t like it at first, but man....
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When Agents of Shield ended my friend and I were deciding what show to watch next, We tried Flash and it was terrible, colorful, forced and shit.
Then the Arrow appears and in minutes he was much more interesting than Barry Allen, so we move to Arrow, and it was basically Batman where he kills, so we where hooked,

Then there is that crossover episode and I was "forced" to watch Flash and I was slowly warming up to it.


Now I actually don't give a damn about this season of Arrow and I am feeling physical pain that I have to wait a month for the next Flash episode...
 
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