PlayStation 4 hits 20.2 million units sold worldwide (high sodium content warning)

joecanada

Member
now, what would be the point of that?

that's what I'm saying. it was failing in the U.S, but winning worldwide and yet, couldn't match the 360 in worldwide sales. I mean, how was it exactly a year after the Ps3 launched? because that's how much of a headstart the 360 had

some guy in an uncharted thread told me Uc3 sold 5 million the first month, I think. so that's that.

Because his list of what doesn't count is comedy gold that's why
 
I'm guessing under 10 million. No way it has sold more than a million outside the UK and USA.
it was announced 10 million shipped last year. how could the sold through still be underneath that?

Yes, although updates haven't been as frequent since the XBO's was evidently in poor shape at launch while the PS4's was solid.
ok thanks. sony also doesn't announce new sdks like mS does. do they?
 

Alo0oy

Banned
There's no way uncharted 3 sold 5 million in its first month. God of War 3 sold over a million on the U.S. alone he first month. Uncharted 3 didn't crack a million in the US alone the first month.

The series was at 8 million right before UC3's launch:
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2010/12/09/uncharted-series-sells-nearly-8-million-copies/

& it hit 13 million 1 month after launch:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-05-uncharted-series-sells-13-million-copies

We don't know whether those were shipments or sell-through, though, but even if those were shipments, the entire shipment sold out pretty quickly since they shipped/sold an additional 4 million in the next 3 months.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-24-uncharted-franchise-hits-17-million-units-sold


I believe that's shipped. But still great sales. I can only imagine the numbers uncharted 4 will pull. But I reckon The Last of Us sequel will be a better seller.

It's hard to tell, since UC3 reached every milestone much faster than TLOU, but I can see TLOU doing better since Sony is heavily bundling the game with nearly every PS4.
 
The series was at 8 million right before UC3's launch:
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2010/12/09/uncharted-series-sells-nearly-8-million-copies/

& it hit 13 million 1 month after launch:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-05-uncharted-series-sells-13-million-copies

We don't know whether those were shipments or sell-through, though, but even if those were shipments, the entire shipment sold out pretty quickly since they shipped/sold an additional 4 million in the next 3 months.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-24-uncharted-franchise-hits-17-million-units-sold
didn't gow3 also sell a million the first week?
No. There have been a couple major updates so far but we mostly hear about them after the fact when developers give tech presentations.
gotcha thanks
 
it was announced 10 million shipped last year. how could the sold through still be underneath that?


ok thanks. sony also doesn't announce new sdks like mS does. do they?

Aside from the UK and USA the xbone is doing horrible. It was announced shipped but how many they had sold through then? Why hasn't MS come out and announce some numbers? They have been steadily been dropping prices and bundles to match or beat Sony because they are doing horrible. The 360 was doing much better at that same time frame.
 
There's no way uncharted 3 sold 5 million in its first month. God of War 3 sold over a million on the U.S. alone he first month. Uncharted 3 didn't crack a million in the US alone the first month.

The series was at 8 million right before UC3's launch:
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2010/12/09/uncharted-series-sells-nearly-8-million-copies/

& it hit 13 million 1 month after launch:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-05-uncharted-series-sells-13-million-copies

We don't know whether those were shipments or sell-through, though, but even if those were shipments, the entire shipment sold out pretty quickly since they shipped/sold an additional 4 million in the next 3 months.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-24-uncharted-franchise-hits-17-million-units-sold




It's hard to tell, since UC3 reached every milestone much faster than TLOU, but I can see TLOU doing better since Sony is heavily bundling the game with nearly every PS4.

For reference, Uncharted 3 sold-through a little over a million in the USA in 2011 (Nov 2011 + Dec 2011).
 
The series was at 8 million right before UC3's launch:
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2010/12/09/uncharted-series-sells-nearly-8-million-copies/

& it hit 13 million 1 month after launch:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-05-uncharted-series-sells-13-million-copies

We don't know whether those were shipments or sell-through, though, but even if those were shipments, the entire shipment sold out pretty quickly since they shipped/sold an additional 4 million in the next 3 months.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-24-uncharted-franchise-hits-17-million-units-sold


It's hard to tell, since UC3 reached every milestone much faster than TLOU, but I can see TLOU doing better since Sony is heavily bundling the game with nearly every PS4.

Uncharted was very well stablished thanks to Uncharted 2. So it was a no brainer that it was going to sell easily. But The Last of Us has received just about enough if not more coverage then Uncharted 2.
 
I need a chart comparing this to other consoles to understand it better
this would be nice.
Aside from the UK and USA the xbone is doing horrible. It was announced shipped but how many they had sold through then? Why hasn't MS come out and announce some numbers? They have been steadily been dropping prices and bundles to match or beat Sony because they are doing horrible. The 360 was doing much better at that same time frame.
I asked this same question and the answer seems to be

a. the number is too low for mS's ego to reveal
b. companies usually do sold-in numbers anyway, not sold-through.

also, I thought that this whole gen so far, that the xbone has been outpacing at least its predecessor? is it falling behind that too?
 

Alo0oy

Banned
For reference, Uncharted 3 sold-through a little over a million in the USA in 2011 (Nov 2011 + Dec 2011).

So around ~4 million for ROTW assuming it sold the entirety of the 5 million shipments in that year.

Do you have the LTD sales for UC3 in the US? Sony games seem to have good legs, GoW3 nearly tripled its first month sales in the US.
 

Alo0oy

Banned
Uncharted was very well stablished thanks to Uncharted 2. So it was a no brainer that it was going to sell easily. But The Last of Us has received just about enough if not more coverage then Uncharted 2.

Yeah, that's why I'm saying it's hard to tell, a sequel to a game that received phenomenal WOM always sells well, but UC3 sold a lot of units, possibly over 10 million if we include the bundle they released in 2012, but TLOU could have hit 10 million too since it was bundled with every PS4 for months now.

Regardless, it's pretty amazing that Sony only had one franchise that could sell 10+ million before PS3's launch, & now they have possibly 3.
 
Yeah, that's why I'm saying it's hard to tell, a sequel to a game that received phenomenal WOM always sells well, but UC3 sold a lot of units, possibly over 10 million if we include the bundle they released in 2012, but TLOU could have hit 10 million too since it was bundled with every PS4 for months now.

Regardless, it's pretty amazing that Sony only had one franchise that could sell 10+ million before PS3's launch, & now they have possibly 3.
wom=word of mouth?
 

TomShoe

Banned
Yeah, that's why I'm saying it's hard to tell, a sequel to a game that received phenomenal WOM always sells well, but UC3 sold a lot of units, possibly over 10 million if we include the bundle they released in 2012, but TLOU could have hit 10 million too since it was bundled with every PS4 for months now.

Regardless, it's pretty amazing that Sony only had one franchise that could sell 10+ million before PS3's launch, & now they have possibly 3.

TLOU + TLOU:R was at 8 million as of August. Given the BF Bundles and the more recent bundles, there's no way it hasn't moved 10M by now.
 

Peace Tea

Member
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lol..... Im always seeing this shit but what's the context? Is Tretton jokingly replying to an edgy question?
 
I think they meant "weren't heavy hitters".

Edit: yea
you right
They weren't, they sold 1 million units at best. They're cult classics, but that's about it.
1 million units each to date??
I meant weren't heavy hitters. Sorry
oh. s'all good, man.

well who knows, I mean, with the Ps4 being in the lead and the last guardian being the ghost of a game it's been all these years... it could turn into one of those sleeper hitters, or whatever they call it.
 

Josh378

Member
The reason why xbox one didn't get a good headstart in USA? $499 and being the weaker console.

DRM and always online news hurt a bit, but people would still brought xbox one's in troves. MS made the mistake that they thought they can dictate the marketplace, not the consumer ideas and need. And they paid the price.

Looks like $400 will be the sweet spot for consoles for many decades to come. My only fear is that console makers will not have to put in the latest tech into the consoles, and will only focus on profit (which on a business standpoint, I can understand), which means that they can slap a middle-gen video card at the time of the console release and will be fine with it as long as they make a profit. I guess the "Bleed for high-end graphics" will die with the Xbox 360/PS3 generation.
 
The reason why xbox one didn't get a good headstart in USA? $499 and being the weaker console.

DRM and always online news hurt a bit, but people would still brought xbox one's in troves. MS made the mistake that they thought they can dictate the marketplace, not the consumer ideas and need. And they paid the price.

Looks like $400 will be the sweet spot for consoles for many decades to come. My only fear is that console makers will not have to put in the latest tech into the consoles, and will only focus on profit (which on a business standpoint, I can understand), which means that they can slap a middle-gen video card at the time of the console release and will be fine with it as long as they make a profit. I guess the "Bleed for high-end graphics" will die with the Xbox 360/PS3 generation.
after having an elongated console generation, you'd think the tech jump would've been that much larger between the two. instead, we have the smallest leap/jump in power yet. hopefully ever. but i'm in my mid 20s now so whatever they do in future gens, I really shouldn't care as much.
 
Yup, it very likely hit 10 million by now, I just didn't want to make a definitive statement.



ICO sold ~700k units, I couldn't find numbers for SotC except that "it sold very well compared to ICO".
damn. if we were to go by sales, i'd say that game is severely underrated.
 
So around ~4 million for ROTW assuming it sold the entirety of the 5 million shipments in that year.

Do you have the LTD sales for UC3 in the US? Sony games seem to have good legs, GoW3 nearly tripled its first month sales in the US.

They're not as good as you think they are. Uncharted has a lot of fans outside of the USA.


They weren't, they sold 1 million units at best. They're cult classics, but that's about it.

Yup, it very likely hit 10 million by now, I just didn't want to make a definitive statement.



ICO sold ~700k units, I couldn't find numbers for SotC except that "it sold very well compared to ICO".

Shadow of the Colossus has sold-through nearly 1 million copies in the USA to date. And that's just the USA.
 

Alo0oy

Banned
They're not as good as you think they are.

Yeah, with the UC series debut in the US, it doesn't seem like the US cares about UC that much, certainly not like God of War.

Shadow of the Colossus has sold-through nearly 1 million copies in the USA to date. And that's just the USA.

That's actually better than I expected, it's possible the game sold over two million WW then.

Then why the hell is The Last Guardian not out yet? *cries*
 
Yeah, with the UC series debut in the US, it doesn't seem like the US cares about UC that much, certainly not like God of War.

I would generally agree with that statement.

But keep in mind that, for PS3 games, they still sold quite well in the USA.

It's just that Uncharted isn't necessarily a USA-focused franchise like Madden or Call of Duty sales-wise...it truly is a worldwide franchise with lots of sales realised in all sorts of territories.

USA isn't all that crucial for Naughty Dog / SCE WWS.
 
But MS INVENTED DirectX, and there's NO WAY they were giving up a 30% performance advantage, no way.
sarcast or not I didn't think they would give up anything performance wise this gen. I assumed they would even spend extra cash on future proofing there console spec wise. Both consoles are suspect in there own ways but never in a million years did I think microsoft would choose the path they did. They totally turned me off with the all in one entertainment tv focus.
 

Alo0oy

Banned
I think Uc4 will change that though.

UC4 needs a big marketing campaign, dudebro games seem to appeal to the US far more than EU which is why God of War & Halo get the majority of their sales in the US, UC just may not appeal to the dudebro gamers.

USA isn't all that crucial for Naughty Dog / SCE WWS.

GoW 3 sold 2.8 million in the US from their last reported number, which was more than all other territories combined.

How about TLOU, did it sell well in the US LTD?
 

kyser73

Member
sarcast or not I didn't think they would give up anything performance wise this gen. I assumed they would even spend extra cash on future proofing there console spec wise. Both consoles are suspect in there own ways but never in a million years did I think microsoft would choose the path they did. They totally turned me off with the all in one entertainment tv focus.

It's not even sarcasm on my part, its paraphrasing a post by Penello made on Gaf during the pre-launch period.
 
I would agree with that statement.

But keep in mind that, for PS3 games, they still sold quite well in the USA.

It's just that Uncharted isn't necessarily a USA-focused franchise like Madden or Call of Duty sales-wise...it truly is a worldwide franchise with lots of sales realised in all sorts of territories.

USA isn't all that crucial for Naughty Dog / SCE WWS.
Ps4s doing a lot better in the U.S than Ps3 was doing at this point. suffice to say I think Uc4 will be the best selling uncharted game everywhere, including here.
sarcast or not I didn't think they would give up anything performance wise this gen. I assumed they would even spend extra cash on future proofing there console spec wise. Both consoles are suspect in there own ways but never in a million years did I think microsoft would choose the path they did. They totally turned me off with the all in one entertainment tv focus.
both consoles are suspect?

also, I think the all in one entertainment thing is cool. and I like the kinect stuff. I really wish the Ps4 had hdmi pass through so that I could watch tv and play a game at the same time.

there were so many things that made me go to the brink of getting rid of my Ps4 for an xbone - what ultimately made me back down was the games. Uc4, and possibly Tekken 7. having an xbone meant not having those.
 
Ps4s doing a lot better in the U.S than Ps3 was doing at this point. suffice to say I think Uc4 will be the best selling uncharted game everywhere, including here.

both consoles are suspect?

also, I think the all in one entertainment thing is cool. and I like the kinect stuff. I really wish the Ps4 had hdmi pass through so that I could watch tv and play a game at the same time.

there were so many things that made me go to the brink of getting rid of my Ps4 for an xbone - what ultimately made me back down was the games. Uc4, and possibly Tekken 7. having an xbone meant not having those.
definitely both consoles are suspect, I mean for the price PS4 is great but it could always be a bit better the thing is it would have costed a bit more. I am sastisfied with my purchase though so its all good.
 
definitely both consoles are suspect, I mean for the price PS4 is great but it could always be a bit better the thing is it would have costed a bit more. I am sastisfied with my purchase though so its all good.
if devs continue to bring the order 1886-quality games (I'm talking just graphically) then I'd say it's good enough. we just need more and better games.
 
Shadow of the Colossus has sold-through nearly 1 million copies in the USA to date. And that's just the USA.

Any idea how the HD remaster did? The only HD collection I remember any publisher really bragging about was the God of War Collection. Broke a million pretty quickly, iirc.

Which is kinda a shame, given the God of War Collection was one of the first (the first?) HD rereleases, and it was pretty poorly done, in retrospect.
 
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