Super "NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread" II TURBO
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CuthbertAllgoodz
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I just noticed that Art's Hobbies never released a plexi for the HRAP V4... I have a feeling that the HRAP V4 Kai will not appear on the website either. Really curious about why he never added HRAP4 on his products... Is there other places doing plexi/art print for you like Art's Hobbies?
Edit: It is possible that the art part of the V4 is the same as the V3?
Edit: It is possible that the art part of the V4 is the same as the V3?
hikarutilmitt
Member
I'm pretty sure the main plate didn't really change between the V3 and V4. At the very least my V3 Kai and V4 Kai looks identical in that regard.
CuthbertAllgoodz
Member
Thanks! Since you have both and see no difference, I will pull the trigger on the plexi from the V3 Kai!
grap3fruitman
Banned
Skullgirls needs all the players it can get. The more ways to allow them to play, the better. Everyone wins.
That's not our SFV stick.
Also our new ones will have a lot of changes. That's awhile away from now though.
So what you are saying is that the next line of sticks will be a different form factor all together?
Gherid__lacksGPS
Banned
Got the kai this afternoon. Working her in. Bust her open this weekend. Some very minor utility complaints. Not familiar with the components but like what i I feel so far.
Hellshingu
Member
How loose are we talking here?
drotahorror
Member
So are there no sticks with mic support yet on ps4?
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
Regarding the Mad Catz SF5 products. It is still too early to define what the range will be. We'll have more news later this year.
Not direct 3.5 input like on PS4 DS4 controllers. The tech/spec is not available yet to third parties. Also the user experience isn't there yet for the competitive level. It's going to take awhile.
Not direct 3.5 input like on PS4 DS4 controllers. The tech/spec is not available yet to third parties. Also the user experience isn't there yet for the competitive level. It's going to take awhile.
drotahorror
Member
Thanks!
Hellshingu
Member
Got my pre-order in for a VLX from arcadeshock!! Glad I was able to get one as I'm sure there are only 10-20 left at this point. Now I can rest easy.
Hopefully everything goes smoothly.
Hopefully everything goes smoothly.
Rice-Eater
Member
I don't expect an answer, but I figure I'll ask anyways. Will the SF5 branded stick coming out next year use the same exact case as the TE2 or will you guys design a new one?
Hellshingu
Member
MarkMan said they would have a lot of changes a page back. How many changes and how substantial that is? Guess we will find out more towards end of the year I'd assume. I like the TE2 I wonder if they'll try and build on the design into something else or just make small improvements.
Got my Kai in today, as well as my buttons from Akishop, which were quite damaged. Managed to fix them but Akishop will send me replacement micro-switches. I ended up replacing 6 Kuro buttons with 6 Seimitsu buttons and plugged the L1/L2 buttons, and installed a Sanwa-JLF stick. All in all I am extremely happy with this purchase. It's heavier than the HRAP V4 that's for sure and feels a lot sturdier too. Highly recommended.
Sorry for the shitty photos, it's night and I was too lazy to get my camera out.
Sorry for the shitty photos, it's night and I was too lazy to get my camera out.
Absolutely nothing!
Bar81
Member
You simply unscrew the Hayabusa and screw in the Sanwa-JLF. Mine is the standard JLF. Just make sure it uses the P-1 bracket. Literally took me 5 minutes to install everything.
Bar81
Member
So do I want the bare one:
http://arcadeshock.com/collections/sanwa-denshi/products/sanwa-denshi-joystick-bare-jlf-tp-8yt-sk
or the one with the mounting plate:
http://arcadeshock.com/collections/...-denshi-joystick-w-base-harness-jlf-tp-8yt-sk
http://arcadeshock.com/collections/sanwa-denshi/products/sanwa-denshi-joystick-bare-jlf-tp-8yt-sk
or the one with the mounting plate:
http://arcadeshock.com/collections/...-denshi-joystick-w-base-harness-jlf-tp-8yt-sk
If you don't buy a mounting plate you will have to remove the plate from the stick you're replacing.
It seems the plate-less JLF is out of stock. Try focusattack if you choose to go that route.
You need it with the mounting plate.
So, this
http://arcadeshock.com/collections/...-denshi-joystick-w-base-harness-jlf-tp-8yt-sk
sixteen-bit
Member
PS4 Kai sticks look damn good in person. I think I want one.
Stallion Dan
Member
Got my RAP4 Kai from Amazon UK.
I don't really have any issues with it aside from my hands being just the wrong size, the lower palm which I rest my and on rests on a knife edge of the front slope of the case, any down movement moves it onto the slope, which is just annoying. I can possibly see my palm wearing away skin on it.
Wish the stick was like 1 inch more towards the back. Or my hands were slighty smaller or larger, so to either rest on the slope all time or not at all. It'll do until get a second PS4 stick, then my partner can use it, smaller hands so probably not an issue.
Oh and one button squeaks, but it is so quiet the stick movement noise or even the button press drowns it out. None issue.
I don't really have any issues with it aside from my hands being just the wrong size, the lower palm which I rest my and on rests on a knife edge of the front slope of the case, any down movement moves it onto the slope, which is just annoying. I can possibly see my palm wearing away skin on it.
Wish the stick was like 1 inch more towards the back. Or my hands were slighty smaller or larger, so to either rest on the slope all time or not at all. It'll do until get a second PS4 stick, then my partner can use it, smaller hands so probably not an issue.
Oh and one button squeaks, but it is so quiet the stick movement noise or even the button press drowns it out. None issue.
Bar81
Member
That black base makes for a slick look with those colors. Any reason you went with Akishop over focusattack.com? I haven't ordered parts in years so I'm curious.
Prototype-03
Member
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
I honestly think it's currently the best stick for PS4 right now. Will probably change once SFV sticks come out though. I REALLY don't like the TE2 design.
Gunslinger
Member
I don't know if this has been posted yet but TE 2 madcatz one is available for pre order on amazon now.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UHE4DHU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
looks like USFIV one is sold out.
Persona 4 one is also available from third party too expensive imo.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LPTZ0QO/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UHE4DHU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
looks like USFIV one is sold out.
Persona 4 one is also available from third party too expensive imo.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LPTZ0QO/?tag=neogaf0e-20
hikarutilmitt
Member
why.gif
Seriously, I don't understand this. I know people have preferences and respect that, but almost every account of anyone I've talked to online, in person, here at work everyone seems to agree the Hayabusa is at least as good as a JLF or better. I've been seeing people convert who have been long-time JLF users.
Why would you do this?! ;_;
Prototype-03
Member
I know that I've already mentioned this, but from my personal experience, the stick is too loose to the point where if I flick one direction, it will also flick to the other side before returning to neutral. It has happened to me in menus and had random dashes in game 'cause of it. Also, the Hayabusa has a longer throw, which some people may not like. I actually like the longer throw but I'm seriously debating switching it out 'cause the incorrect input is a deal breaker.
Yeah, definitely had this problem on a stock spring.
I would do something with Ibuki like. c.lk > s.mk, and instead of neutral, I would get a direction. Usually back.
No problems like that with a heavier spring, though, and it IS my favorite stick. But I can see why somebody would swap it.
Prototype-03
Member
Might do this then. I actually prefer the Sanwa buttons so I may swap it out from my TE1 stick, since I don't use that one anymore. If it didn't squeak, I may have just stuck with it :/
Hori is SSOOO close to making the perfect stick/button.
edit: OK, I remember why I didn't order it last time -- the shipping is more expensive than the actual item. Who pays $3.00 to ship a spring?
Had a long local GG session with my Hayabusa and it feels tighter than my Sanwa.
Also, perhaps it's a break-in thing, but Sanwa sticks seem more sensitive about hitting the sides while the Hayabusa seems more sensitive about hitting corners. Was actually doing wider DP motions the way I used to do them on US sticks to compensate, while moving to lesser motions for half circles.
Also, perhaps it's a break-in thing, but Sanwa sticks seem more sensitive about hitting the sides while the Hayabusa seems more sensitive about hitting corners. Was actually doing wider DP motions the way I used to do them on US sticks to compensate, while moving to lesser motions for half circles.
Wow, that looks really nice. And holy crap at those bent connectors. Every time I get an envelope stuffed with buttons I'm amazed that they arrived in one piece. Part suppliers need to get their act together when fulfilling orders. These are delicate bits, use a damn box for crying out loud.
Prototype-03
Member
lol. I ordered 6 at a time.
I ordered 2. I still feel like I was getting ripped off but I really didn't need anything else. These springs better help.
I kuros back into my VLX and was playing some USF4.
Man...I just do not like these buttons, lol. Also, seems like all I have to do is breathe on them to get an input. I kept getting accidental taunts, ex moves, and red focuses. I guess the way I rest my hand over buttons while doing moves is causing accidental moves...either that or the buttons stick a bit and one is held down when I try to do something else.
Frustrating thing is it not being consistent enough to find out.
Man...I just do not like these buttons, lol. Also, seems like all I have to do is breathe on them to get an input. I kept getting accidental taunts, ex moves, and red focuses. I guess the way I rest my hand over buttons while doing moves is causing accidental moves...either that or the buttons stick a bit and one is held down when I try to do something else.
Frustrating thing is it not being consistent enough to find out.
Hellshingu
Member
What buttons did you have in your VLX before? After hearing all these things about the kuro buttons I'm thinking I should probably buy replacements before my VLX gets shipped. And a 2lb spring too as you mentioned earlier I had no idea it was that loose.
Prototype-03
Member
I would say to hold off from buying it for now. You may end up liking them. You may also get one of the sticks that doesn't have that sensitivity issue. One of my sticks is worse than the other.
The HBFS packaging was quite impressive. Classy black box emblazoned with the GamerFinger logo in gold, and inside, the 8 buttons mounted in Vewlix format.
It's definitely a matter of taste. I have always preferred Sanwa OBSF over the Kuros, but now I'm replacing everything with HBFS! What I will say is that the Kuros are good enough to get you through a week or two even if you don't like them. Hell, I didn't even bother to replace the stock buttons in the HRAP4 I bought last year because I always considered it my "temporary" PS4 stick, something to hold me over just long enough for a real stick to be released (VLX in this case).
One thing you may want to watch out for is limited stock at FocusAttack and ArcadeShock. When I tried to place an order for a full set of black OBFS-30s, I was unable to do so at either of those otherwise excellent establishments, so I ordered them from akishop instead (also a good place). If you're picky about color and/or type (silent vs regular), you may have to scrounge around a bit.
I tend to stick with sanwa, but I wanted to continue to give the kuros a chance. I don't want to buy any more buttons, but I don't have any that I would like with the color scheme of the black vlx. :/
Prototype-03
Member
Man, I know that looks technically don't do anything to make the stick better, but just changing out the button colors and the joystick ball makes a huge difference. Makes me want to buy one too, but I know it's just... NOT... WORTH IT. Maybe if I keep saying it, I'll believe it.
Beautiful looking Diamond there!
LOL, it really does. Those are the kuros in there now. Normally I have some blue sanwa, and in my Red VLX I have some custom made sharingan buttons (huge Uchiha fan
):
I just like my stick looking different if somebody has the same one.
Thank you! By far my favorite stick.