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So i've been taking anti depressants for about 2 weeks. They were working damn well but today I'm still depressed as ever. You know I think I am a worthless human being, granted we all are but here I am sitting on my ass upsetting those around me no matter how hard I try. I don't know what I did in my past life but I really shouldn't be here, suicide might be the answer.
 
They're better off listening to their healthcare practitioner's.

You're shooting down the idea of exploring something that may help for really no reason. Do you really think it's a good idea to be completely passive and listen to nothing else but what comes out of the mouth of your healthcare practitioner? For that to be a good idea, all healthcare practitioners would have to be equally good and equally knowledgeable, which I don't think anyone can claim.
 
So i've been taking anti depressants for about 2 weeks. They were working damn well but today I'm still depressed as ever. You know I think I am a worthless human being, granted we all are but here I am sitting on my ass upsetting those around me no matter how hard I try. I don't know what I did in my past life but I really shouldn't be here, suicide might be the answer.

No man, it's really not.

Please get help.

I like the quote - ''It's always darkest before the dawn''.
 
You're shooting down the idea of exploring something that may help for really no reason. Do you really think it's a good idea to be completely passive and listen to nothing else but what comes out of the mouth of your healthcare practitioner? For that to be a good idea, all healthcare practitioners would have to be equally good and equally knowledgeable, which I don't think anyone can claim.

Oh come of that high horse. If needed, the medical practitioner will do the necessary tests. such as hormonal ones. A big one depression is checking the thyroid. A slimball of a doctor selling stuff on the internet isn't doing any good, especially when his site looks like something from a 2000s Geocities sites and snippets of cherry picked articles. Especially, if you do have TBI, you'd be regularly seeing several specialists mot just a GP. A patient's relationship goes both ways, and they refer to other specialists.
 
So i've been taking anti depressants for about 2 weeks. They were working damn well but today I'm still depressed as ever. You know I think I am a worthless human being, granted we all are but here I am sitting on my ass upsetting those around me no matter how hard I try. I don't know what I did in my past life but I really shouldn't be here, suicide might be the answer.

Talk to someone, a friend, therapist, suicide hotline, send a gaffer a PM.
 
Oh come of that high horse. If needed, the medical practitioner will do the necessary tests. such as hormonal ones. A big one depression is checking the thyroid. A slimball of a doctor selling stuff on the internet isn't doing any good, especially when his site looks like something from a 2000s Geocities sites and snippets of cherry picked articles. Especially, if you do have TBI, you'd be regularly seeing several specialists mot just a GP. A patient's relationship goes both ways, and they refer to other specialists.

No high horse here at all. It's kind of ridiculous to assume that all medical practitioners offer the same quality of care and have the same level of knowledge. It's just not realistic.

I haven't looked at his website, and really my only exposure to the guy was on the podcast which was what I was encouraging people to give a listen. He certainly wasn't trying to sell anything to individuals on that. Really have no idea why you are so ready to call him a slimeball.

And again, this isn't necessarily specific to people with traumatic brain injury. It's to anyone who may be deficient in hormone levels. On the podcast he talked about how (and I believe this is from his practice) many people have seen a great improvement simply from bringing up testosterone levels a little bit. He specifically talks about how many people may be deficient even if they fall within what is considered normals levels. I think he said the scale was something like 270 -- 1,000 for adult males and if you were at 271, for example, you likely wouldn't be diagnosed with low testosterone, but there's a chance that you actually might be since there can be so much individual variance.

Anyway, I'm not looking to argue. I only wanted to put out some information that may lead to some people getting better. Never hurts to at least look into something.
 
Never hurts to loonk in into something unless it is in the wrong place. That's what the doctors are for.

Are you really suggesting that people should not do their own research for possible solutions? Even if they're not getting better with the treatment they're already receiving?
 
Are you really suggesting that people should not do their own research for possible solutions? Even if they're not getting better with the treatment they're already receiving?

It's not necessarily a bad thing, but you do have to be careful about what you buy into. There are certainly cases where a placebo could benefit you but other times where you'd be allowing a condition to worsen. This is general advice, I have not listened to that podcast you posted.

What about a compromise and bringing up the hormone concerns with a doctor? At least my doc office has really solid people and I feel like I can get a good answer or they will at least look into things for me. My doc did some routine tests with bloodwork/urine the first time I went to check general stuff I can't recall, probably thyroid and hormones included.
 
It's not necessarily a bad thing, but you do have to be careful about what you buy into. There are certainly cases where a placebo could benefit you but other times where you'd be allowing a condition to worsen. This is general advice, I have not listened to that podcast you posted.

What about a compromise and bringing up the hormone concerns with a doctor? At least my doc office has really solid people and I feel like I can get a good answer or they will at least look into things for me. My doc did some routine tests with bloodwork/urine the first time I went to check general stuff I can't recall, probably thyroid and hormones included.
This is the right way and attitude to go about it.
 
It's not necessarily a bad thing, but you do have to be careful about what you buy into. There are certainly cases where a placebo could benefit you but other times where you'd be allowing a condition to worsen. This is general advice, I have not listened to that podcast you posted.

What about a compromise and bringing up the hormone concerns with a doctor? At least my doc office has really solid people and I feel like I can get a good answer or they will at least look into things for me. My doc did some routine tests with bloodwork/urine the first time I went to check general stuff I can't recall, probably thyroid and hormones included.

Yeah, of course. I'm certainly not suggesting people run off to buy testosterone to inject without talking to their doctors.

I have no idea how we got from "it might be worth listening to/looking into!" to this, but I'll happily exit the scene now.

edit: who is talking about self-diagnosis? This has to be some of the worst twisting of my words I've experienced on this forum.
 
So i've been taking anti depressants for about 2 weeks. They were working damn well but today I'm still depressed as ever. You know I think I am a worthless human being, granted we all are but here I am sitting on my ass upsetting those around me no matter how hard I try. I don't know what I did in my past life but I really shouldn't be here, suicide might be the answer.

Suicide is never the answer, but at the same time, I understand those times where it seems like a reasonable solution. Get help. If it ever feels like the reasonable solution, even for a second, you're in danger.
 
Can you help me?

It's happening again. I'm trying to be ready for studying. I need to.

It is hurting again. I feel like I need to sink into somewhere dark, but time moves while I am there. I could lose everything, it could hurt even more in the future.

I need to fight the pain. I need help. I need someone.
 
Am I needed?

Do I need to be here?

Dying is just, painful. It means I can't do the things I like. But will I need them if the pain will be gone?

I am scared that it will hurt more there.

Darkness. Hungry forever

Some forever

No arms. Nothing to touch

Nothing to distract from the pain. Nothing to ease it

But at least I will be alone from the people who look down at me
 

Have you talked to a doctor or therapist izuna? Finding meaning can be quite hard since it is very subjective and relative, but getting the mind to a place where those next steps can be taken sometimes needs to be the first step.

Even if you have talked to one before, perhaps it is time to try again?
 
I haven't been to the gym in over a month.
I fat because I'm depressed. I'm depressed because I'm fat.
Literally zero motivation.
I feel even worse because my mom paid for the membership for me.
 
I know that cycle. If you don't have anyone to go with, it can be hard.
Starting exercising again, myself. It's not easy when you feel like utter dogshit.
And for me, the "workout high" is bad, just makes me emotionally crash.
 
It does for everyone.

Hard times are a test of personal strength and build character.

Literally what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

Pain won't last forever, but suicide does.

I hate to disagree but some pain does last forever no matter what you do. I have depression and anxiety caused by a disability that can never be fixed. I'm not saying I condone suicide but blanket comments like "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger", "Pain won't last forever" are not helpful. Those are one size fits all statements. My own therapist has a problem with those types of comments. I'll be in physical pain that is horrendous and can never be helped and if my Dr said either one of those statements I would never go back.
Yes it's in everybody's self intrest to be as positive as possible in life and try to move forward. But using quotes like that are really not going to help a individual with serious clinical depression.
 
Ran out of my medication and haven't had a chance to pick up more. Only been off them 2 days and its kicking my pass. Feel fucking garbage.

Should be picking up more tomorrow.
 
I'm freaking out over work. My entire weekend was spent inside my house panicked. I don't know how much longer I have a job, which is just more stress. I just want to disappear. Why does life have to be so hard? I just want it to stop. Someone please put me out of my misery.
 
I'm freaking out over work. My entire weekend was spent inside my house panicked. I don't know how much longer I have a job, which is just more stress. I just want to disappear. Why does life have to be so hard? I just want it to stop. Someone please put me out of my misery.

Just curious, what's going on where you might lose your job?
 
Second time with this therapist, and I'm definitely not going back. I never would have expected my school would employ someone taking such a pseudoscientific approach to mental health. The whole concept about the "true self" being a source of knowing or awareness became hard to swallow when the reaction to me not being able to leave my bed some weekends is that I should accept it and can't change reality, and that rather, I will get up if I really needed to rather than if I just thought that I needed to.

I might have been more into the bullshit that "we are awareness, not our bodies or minds" if I wasn't a biologist. He then said I could continue on my path with Youtube videos if I could no longer attend sessions due to my insurance and mentioned works by authors like Byron Katie.

Guess my search for help with anxiety, procrastination, and mental oddities continues. I guess it's disappointing since I had asked for a psychiatrist and it had taken me years to finally get an appointment.
 
Considering me losing my employment will trigger me killing myself i guess i better beg for forgiveness for being sad since ive been commanded to 'get happy'. Incredible frustration and anger i have. I see why people lose it. Im just playing the happy lotto now.
 
I just took a quiz for my c++ class last week and got an F, went from A to C. I'm so disappointed and upset right now. I have a midterm this week, and this quiz brought me down severely. I'm angry right now.
 
Talk to a freaking doctor and not the internet for fuck's sake.

Jesus fucking christ, get out of here with that dismissive bullshit. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of reported cases of people having tremendous benefit from this easily acquirable substance, which has been proven through research to be effective as a depression treatment, and many of these people have previously been on prescription meds.
 
I feel very conflicted, I get headaches and mental stress when in social situations but I need some social interaction.
I am learning why this is the case but it doesn't really help much. Let's just hope that for some magical reason I do not have a personality disorder and that it's a chemical imbalance.

Then I'd at least have medicine and a condition of which people can sympathize about. If I truly have a narcissist disorder then I'm pretty much a crybaby keeping himself in check, who will never even get rid of the symptoms.

The depression is so real but the euphoric moments are too. Fuck this :(

Ah I don't know, I have a habit of chewing things, the mouthguard would very soon become chewed up plastic. Hoping to find a way to cope without putting something in me.
Take magnesium supplements, they help against teeth grinding.
 
Jesus fucking christ, get out of here with that dismissive bullshit. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of reported cases of people having tremendous benefit from this easily acquirable substance, which has been proven through research to be effective as a depression treatment, and many of these people have previously been on prescription meds.

It's in the same category as tricyclic antidepressants, so yes you would need to see a doctor and a prescription even in the countries its approved in. Second, one should never self-diagnose or self-medicate. Taking online advice without professional approval is dangerous. Trustworthy sites like nimh.gov, your university's counseling center (example) can provide useful information and access to professional services. You should not take any medication without a doctor's approval, especially an antidepressant. Purchasing these drugs without a prescription through a reseller on the internet can also be dangerous.

We can talk about medication experiences here, but the medications are controlled and we have prescriptions for them and not suggesting the person forgo diagnosis first.
 
Jesus fucking christ, get out of here with that dismissive bullshit. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of reported cases of people having tremendous benefit from this easily acquirable substance, which has been proven through research to be effective as a depression treatment, and many of these people have previously been on prescription meds.

You're advocating people seek out a medication without talking to a doctor or getting a prescription. You have to see how dangerous that is. You need to use extra caution when something is pitched as incredibly potent and effective, but also incredibly safe and free of side effects. If a substance is highly biologically active, that is the basis for all effects, intended or otherwise. Even minutely targeted designer drugs carry serious side effects. There isn't much way around that.

Tlaneptine may be a promising drug, but it's not approved in the US, UK, Canada, or Australia at this point. If it is available in your country, by all means talk to your doc about it. But encouraging people to just get their hands on some is dangerous.
 
Can anyone here on antidepressants give me some insight into the sexual side effects?

I've been on sertraline for only five days and have noticed that I can no longer orgasm. I know that sexual dysfunction is one of the side effects but I wasn't expecting them to show up so quickly.
 
Can anyone here on antidepressants give me some insight into the sexual side effects?

I've been on sertraline for only five days and have noticed that I can no longer orgasm. I know that sexual dysfunction is one of the side effects but I wasn't expecting them to show up so quickly.
It will probably go away with time, but it can also continue to affect your sex drive. I wasn't able to orgasm for about a month after starting anti-depressants. Two years later and while I can orgasm like "normal" now, my sex drive is still nowhere near what it used to be.
 
My sexdrive is lower now that I'm depressed, but everything still functions. I'm on Brintellix 10 mg in the morning and half a Trazodon 100mg in the evening. Supposedely there aren't any sexual side-effects with the fairly new Brintellix.


I want to talk about myself for a minute here, because it helps. I've been depressed since december, but it was lingering for a few years I suppose. Had an on-and-off-relationship for over 4 years and that really did me in, combined with fun, but high-stress work. Me and my ex split up around 10 times, but in 2014 we started living together, this didn't fix anything. We broke off in november. I cannot diagnose anyone but a lot of her behavior in the past four years resemble behaviour found in people with BPD. Regardless of if she suffers from it or not, her personality obviously did not make me happy. It was always fireworks with us, either great fireworks or crippling fire.

So, after the final break up, my body just couldn't go on. I tried to keep working for a month or two but the high stress of it combined with the feeling of losing my complete identity (it felt like it was sucked out of me by my ex, but I have to blame myself because I've let it happen), made it impossible for me to really go on. Somewhere in february I started to stay at home. Fortunately, in this country things are taken care off if you have a mental illness and my manager at work is very understanding.

I've been a month at home now and I've seen some great progression thanks to therapy and the anti depressives I mentioned above. A month ago I was pretty much suicidal and I couldn't do anything, just stare at what was in front of me. I also couldn't play any games, go for a walk, do the household, watch tv, sleep, read, nothing.

Now it's a month later and I watch a lot of series, go outside almost every day (to play some football with friends, go out in weekends, go for a walk, go shopping), play a game every now and then. I even picked up driving again which I haven't done for 12 years (12 years ago I got my license but did nothing with it). It gives me more confidence. I've also been on a few dates and while nothing has come out of it, I'm starting to feel more confident in myself and starting to feel like my old self... a little bit!

So, all in all very positive progression and I'm very happy with that. I still have a lot of bad moments, especially when I wake up, but they become smaller each week it seems. I might even start working for a few half days (at home) starting next week, but I'm not sure yet.

I'd love to talk more about it but this is already a long post. I just wanted to share it with you all. If you have any questions (about the progression I've made, about the meds I take, about the therapy, about my last relationship that has driven me almost over the edge, or whatever), I'd be glad to answer.

Lastly, I would like to say to ALL of you suffering from depression: keep holding on. I know I've only been depressed for a month or 3, 4, which is nothing compared to the periods some of you go through, but I've been there before in my life and I know that during this period I often felt completely hopeless, miss understood and transparant, like I didn't exist. I know it is hard to feel this way, I know almost no one seems to understand you, and I know it seems like there is no light at the end of the tunnel. But keep holding on, because the only other way out is death, and then you will NEVER know if you would've been able to reach that light. If you can't talk about it with anyone in real life, get a T or talk about it here. I'd be glad to read and reply, which is what I'm going to try and do from now on.

Thanks for reading and I hope I can contribute often here!
 
Guys, I had a bad day. I misunderstood my grandma when she told me to cut the shrubs; Instead I ended up cutting the flowers that was about to bloom. She got mad at me and said I wouldn't survive in the real world, because of me not understanding what she told me to do, I wouldn't be able to keep a job. she said if she wasn't there to guide me on things, I would be screwed. Now, I've been questioning my existence, I never knew how/what to do anything.

I've been having a problem with comprehension ever since I was a child. I barely made it out of school too. I really don't know what to do after I graduate from community college, I might as well be screwed.
 
I thought I read somewhere that depression can have an affect on your immune system. Does anyone know if there is any truth to that?
It depends on if your depression also co-occurs with stress/anxiety(which it often does).

Cortisol, a stress hormone, suppresses the immune system. It gets released in your blood stream when you're under stress.
 
I thought I read somewhere that depression can have an affect on your immune system. Does anyone know if there is any truth to that?

This is well established. Depression negatively impacts your overall health in many ways (as does anxiety) - it lowers your immune system and slows down tissue repair in your body. There is a strong link to cardiovascular health - patients with depression have higher morbidity and mortality following heart attacks.

Depression is just overall bad news for your health.
 
To anyone else who has dealt with long term depression, how did it affect your relationship with friends?

For myself, I had been suffering from MDD since about 2011-2012, and it got progressively worse from there. At first, all my friends were incredibly supportive, I had a great support group.

Now? Nobody cares. I've lost so many friendships in the past year because I'm a broken person. I no longer have a support group, all my friends are just concerned with their own lives and significant others. And why shouldn't they be, it's their life after all. Am I just being selfish?
 
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