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Illusory Revelations#FE (SMTxFE) - First Trailer, Winter 2015 [Up: Screenshots]

...What. Read the words that I wrote and that is what I am saying. There is no hidden illuminati message behind those words. I am not referring to this game's trailer looking like Omega Quintet.

Ok, sorry you might want to reword your statement because I wasn't the only one who took it that way.
 
People are arguing over it for the sake of arguing. It's pretty damn clear what people mean based on the context.

Its be even clearer if they used words to mean what they actually mean as opposed to an amazingly subjective shorthand for "I dont like this and refuse to admit that what I do like is part of the same medium" (which is the general context its been used in). But, no thats probably too anime an idea to catch on.
 
Was I that unclear...? I'm talking about the people in this thread saying that Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei are games which are aesthetically and conceptually similar to games like those Idea Factory make. That's it; I never compared this trailer to those.

I see. Its late and I get mad butthurt when I am tired.

I appologize.
 
This was such a pleasant surprise and definitely the highlight of the Direct for me. What an interesting direction to take that concept.
 
I see. Its late and I get mad butthurt when I am tired.

I appologize.

No problem; I think people are being too defensive on both ends of the argument in this thread. I've been taking a "wait and see" approach from the start, so I'm pretty much neutral about this for now. All I do know is that some who are being defensive in favor of this game are disparaging SMT and FE in the process unfairly.
 
Game looks great, haters gonna hate

Ok, please do give me a reason why you go, what I first thought was naked but was a swimsuite, and lose a strip poker contest to power up? Heck don't get me wrong, I managed to power through the annoying bits of Demon gaze because there isn't much on the market and I was kinda done with Elminage Original but it still annoyed me that they had forced in those scenes. Will still buy, will still play, probably but I sure as hell will voice my opinion on something that just looks...well skeevy

Actually this is open to anyone. How does one power by being running around in a bikini work? is the jiggle power real? Does she hold some sort of secret it those melons that are in fact fake and just molded that way to conceal some nuclear warheads?
Man imagine that, laser equipped boobs that fire away as soon as someone stares for more than 1.2 seconds.
 
I understand there's disappointment here, but here's my 2 cents: it looks pretty cool! I specially love the silhouette NPCs around the city. Can't wait to see more.

I'm with you on this exactly, even down to the silhouette NPCs. They look awesome!
 
Ok, please do give me a reason why you go, what I first thought was naked but was a swimsuite, and lose a strip poker contest to power up? Heck don't get me wrong, I managed to power through the annoying bits of Demon gaze because there isn't much on the market and I was kinda done with Elminage Original but it still annoyed me that they had forced in those scenes. Will still buy, will still play, probably but I sure as hell will voice my opinion on something that just looks...well skeevy

Actually this is open to anyone. How does one power by being running around in a bikini work? is the jiggle power real? Does she hold some sort of secret it those melons that are in fact fake and just molded that way to conceal some nuclear warheads?
Man imagine that, laser equipped boobs that fire away as soon as someone stares for more than 1.2 seconds.

She's solar powered man the more skin she has exposed to the light the more power she can get.

Gamexplain brah

hehe must be later than I thought * .*)
 
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No problem; I think people are being too defensive on both ends of the argument in this thread. I've been taking a "wait and see" approach from the start, so I'm pretty much neutral about this for now. All I do know is that some who are being defensive in favor of this game are disparaging SMT and FE in the process unfairly.

You're anime or dark boyz

there is no neutral here
 
Illusory Revelations |OT| A Song of Squares and Rectangles
Welp.
Ok, please do give me a reason why you go, what I first thought was naked but was a swimsuite, and lose a strip poker contest to power up? Heck don't get me wrong, I managed to power through the annoying bits of Demon gaze because there isn't much on the market and I was kinda done with Elminage Original but it still annoyed me that they had forced in those scenes. Will still buy, will still play, probably but I sure as hell will voice my opinion on something that just looks...well skeevy

Actually this is open to anyone. How does one power by being running around in a bikini work? is the jiggle power real? Does she hold some sort of secret it those melons that are in fact fake and just molded that way to conceal some nuclear warheads?
Man imagine that, laser equipped boobs that fire away as soon as someone stares for more than 1.2 seconds.
Where was this ever imply in the trailer ? please point it out.

Also for the bikini armor theory: It's magic, the guy who make the armor is a genius but also a pervert, his strongest armor is a bikini. Any question ?
 
No problem; I think people are being too defensive on both ends of the argument in this thread. I've been taking a "wait and see" approach from the start, so I'm pretty much neutral about this for now. All I do know is that some who are being defensive in favor of this game are disparaging SMT and FE in the process unfairly.

This is also my stance. However I just want more Console JRPGS made by competent studios in general. This could add to that.
 
Calling these "waifu" franchises just demonstrates how little you actually know.

They are both quite popular these days. More so than they were 20 years ago and even then they were heavily steeped in anime of the time. Things have changed and they aren't going back to what they were.
 
missing dark boyz reference

please rect(angle)ify

Illusory Revelations |OT| Darkboyz's Ballad of Squares and Rectangles

They are both quite popular these days. More so than they were 20 years ago and even then they were heavily steeped in anime of the time. Things have changed and they aren't going back to what they were.

The fuck are you even saying?

If you think these are waifu franchise, then you really need to look at games that would actually qualify as such.
 
Actually this is open to anyone. How does one power by being running around in a bikini work? is the jiggle power real? Does she hold some sort of secret it those melons that are in fact fake and just molded that way to conceal some nuclear warheads?
Man imagine that, laser equipped boobs that fire away as soon as someone stares for more than 1.2 seconds.

I think you're reading too much into it, we've zero context but given her companions reactions theyre equally shocked/surprised and its followed by a close-up of the enemy idol so maybe they confront the enemy idol and she thinks "Bitch isnt going to out-idol me!" *Idol transform*, the scene looks like its meant to be played for laughs to me. Either way, perhaps its best to get some context before praising/condeming anything
 
This is also my stance. However I just want more Console JRPGS made by competent studios in general. This could add to that.

Same ,
I just want more JRPG man, and WiiU have like zero of them. Nintendo doesn't even bother with Paper Mario RPG man, i need a good console JRPG.
 
Its be even clearer if they used words to mean what they actually mean as opposed to an amazingly subjective shorthand for "I dont like this and refuse to admit that what I do like is part of the same medium" (which is the general context its been used in). But, no thats probably too anime an idea to catch on.
As someone who really, really likes anime and spends most of his time watching it as one of 2 hobbies, I managed to work out what people meant by saying something was "anime as hell" entirely through context very quickly.

Do people get this upset when hilariously bad DLC plans are announced and people respond with "Video games."? I've never seen this much arguing over something like this.
 
Looking at this thread, it's really tiring to see people disparage both Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem—two great video game franchises—in order to somehow justify this game's trailer. Some are making it sound like SMT and Fire Emblem are franchises akin to Hyperdimension Neptunia, Conception or Omega Quintet.

How are people disparaging SMT or Fire Emblem?

Look, I lived through the 90s anime boom. The first few Shin Megami Tensei games were released in the years immediately following Akira and preceding Neon Genesis Evangelion. Dark, post-apocalyptic themes, religious symbolism, violence, edginess, and so on were in vogue in anime at the time. That kind of aesthetic could be seen in Shin Megami Tensei played to stuff that was popular in anime at the same time. You could see it in both popular works like Akira and B-tier productions like Demon City Shinjuku.

When Atlus reinvented the Persona series as their new big RPG franchise with Persona 3, they refit it to serve an audience that was watching a different flavor of anime that was popular in the mid 00s. Atlus has always adapted to fit the changing times. Them making grimdark post-apocalyptic stuff was just as "mainstream anime" back in the 90s as idol stuff is today.

The older Fire Emblem games were the same. Their artstyle was an obvious product of its time.

Moreover, this new game is probably just the designers wanting to do something different and have fun with it. Making the exact same thing over and over gets boring. Miyamoto once talked about how it was the young designers who joined Nintendo were the ones who wanted to make stuff just like the games they grew up playing. The older designers were the ones who wanted to do something different and throw out convention.

Saying that classic Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei has always been anime isn't a slight or insult, its just stating simple facts. Their aesthetic and stories were always inspired by the kinds of things that were popular in their time. That's normal.

Anyways, I am a big fan of classic Fire Emblem and I like the Persona games, but I am excited for this new crossover game too. I honestly wasn't at all exicted for it until now, since a simple cross-over sounded dreadfully dull and unworkable. This is actually exciting.
 
No problem; I think people are being too defensive on both ends of the argument in this thread. I've been taking a "wait and see" approach from the start, so I'm pretty much neutral about this for now. All I do know is that some who are being defensive in favor of this game are disparaging SMT and FE in the process unfairly.

Well, I think it's pretty fair to say SMT is no longer really a part of this project.
 
They just should have explained this better, or talk about it when ready
It does seem more like a Kingdom Hearts type of game, borrowing their own little elements and worlds, while being its own thing, very separated from either series.
 
The more I sit on this, the more I like it and the more curious I get. And really, I don't exactly know enough details to know where this game is going. It could follow a dark story with the veneer of an idol anime, or it could just be straight up happy-fun times.

All I know is that Atlus is making another RPG with elements from FE. I'm in, just for that.
 
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