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[Valhelm]

Yesterday at Coachella, a grinning young dude was photographed wearing this lovely shirt:

Yeah.

I tend to be skeptical of people who think a shirt can be an attack on women, but this is pretty fucking blatant. While I hope that this guy is just an edgy fuck, and probably not an actual serial rapist, clothing like this sends an explicit message that it's okay to rape people. This started a conversation about sexism at music festivals, with groups like Vice citing startling statistics about harassment at EDM events. His shirt isn't funny and it isn't subversive. It's apparently a reference to a Fatboy Slim song, but that doesn't make it any less awful.

This little fiasco me think of that license plate threat last night, and about public displays of hate in general. Do you think people should be allowed to publicly wear or display messages that are deliberately offensive? Do you think it's worse if the message is aimed at a less powerful group, like women or black people?

Should hate speech restrictions extend to clothing? Why or why not?

 

[Raistlin]

how do you know he isn't into dudes?

you're being sexist

 

[McDougles]

Should have been removed from the premises. However, when in public, "you're not wrong, you're just a massive fucking asshole."

 

[Clinton514]

Yesterday at Coachella, a grinning young dude was photographed wearing this lovely shirt:



Yeah.

I tend to be skeptical of people who think a shirt can be an attack on women, but this is pretty fucking blatant. While I hope that this guy is just an edgy fuck, and probably not an actual serial rapist, clothing like this sends an explicit message that it's okay to rape people. This started a conversation about sexism at music festivals, with groups like Vice citing startling statistics about harassment at EDM events. His shirt isn't funny and it isn't subversive. It's apparently a reference to a Fatboy Slim song, but that doesn't make it any less awful.

This little fiasco me think of that license plate threat last night, and about public displays of hate in general. Do you think people should be allowed to publicly wear or display messages that are deliberately offensive? Do you think it's worse if the message is aimed at a less powerful group, like women or black people?

Should hate speech restrictions extend to clothing? Why or why not?

Do you know him or what he's into? Rape is bad sure but how's he sexist?

 

[OldRoutes]

I mean, it's clear that this dude is probably a moron... is there really a debate out of this? It's just bad taste on his part, he got his 15 minutes of fame/shame, and then that's it!

 

[Dany]

What a stupid motherfucker.

 

[DietRob]

Personally I'd rather know who to avoid like the plague right up front like this. I wish all racists/assholes had to wear a shirt announcing their prejudice or stupidity.

 

[Alienous]

The problem is that you're thinking about the shirt. The kind of person who would wear something like that isn't thinking.

I don't think someone should be able to wear a shirt like that anymore than the Westboro Baptist Church should be able to operate, but the 'free speech' defence will always be there and I don't think there are distinctions are clear enough to enforce stopping someone wearing a shirt like that.

I'm happy enough just mentally putting these people into the idiot box.

 

[Sanjuro]

I blame wrestling fans.

 

[JMDSO]

I wonder what his license plate frame says.

 

[Melon Husk]

Yesterday at Coachella, a grinning young dude was photographed wearing this lovely shirt:


Should hate speech restrictions extend to clothing? Why or why not?

Were you offended? Don't worry about it, he's a dick. Get over it.

That's an offensive shirt if I've ever seen one, but hate speech? Let the freedom to speak your mind be unless it's something serious, like organized nazism.

 

[entremet]

Are you talking about the US, OP?

Coachella is a US event and there are no hate speech laws here.

 

[injurai]

If that shirt was meant to be satire, he catastrophically failed.

 

[commedieu]

I mean, it's clear that this dude is probably a moron... is there really a debate out of this? It's just bad taste on his part, he got his 15 minutes of fame/shame, and then that's it!

Does it speak to a mindset outside of blithering idiocy? Or is this an isolated mindset on rape. I'm not trying to be deep, and have no agenda. Just asking. I'm out of touch, but I wonder if Spec Op: Bro-Dude culture has gotten that bad.. not the usual bro dudes, but the ones you knew had stories of suspect hook-up stories, and behavior. The picture of why you warn your daughter about not leaving her drinks behind.. those fellows.

He'd catch a confrontation for that immediately. Would probably kill my buzz to do it, but it would be worth it to get further understanding of where his mind is at to accept thats a great idea. Any sisters?

 

[Rentahamster]

They really need to stop changing the title of Edge of Tomorrow.

 

[Reverend Funk]

They really need to stop changing the title of Edge of Tomorrow.

omg

 

[DonasaurusRex]

are we all still post modern and playing our societal language games or are things right and wrong again? until then theres no answer.

 

[Squirrel Killer]

Should hate speech restrictions extend to clothing? Why or why not?

What hate speech restrictions?

 

[Squire]

That photo is a few days old, btw. I saw it in my Twitter feed on Saturday, I'm pretty sure. It's definitely not from yesterday.

how do you know he isn't into dudes?

you're being sexist

It's truly a shane that even posing the question makes you feel so threatened.

 

[Regurgitated]

It's a shock t-shirt. The guy is clearly wearing it to shock/offend people and the grin on his face shows it's working. It's lame as shit and desperate to be edgy but I wouldn't take it TOO seriously.

 

[jamesinclair]

Looks like a criticism of the well supported prison industrial complex to me.

 

[Crash Station]

Dude's probably just a dumbass edgelord and not someone that would go out and rape people.

Anyway, no, I don't think laws should be in place on a federal level to ban any kind of speech on shirts. If a private company or event wants to do it on the other hand, they are more than free to do so.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Do you know him or what he's into? Rape is bad sure but how's he sexist?

Let's all ask the man in the rape shirt what he's *really* into.

 

[Bloodrage]

Ah, the good ol' "I get no attention from anyone anywhere unless I wear a stupid t-shirt like this" t-shirt.

 

[The Technomancer]

What a dumbass

 

[AlimNassor]

Just an edgy kid who thinks he's being cool.

 

[Pavaloo]

what a fucking idiot

I blame wrestling fans.

god dammit

 

[OldRoutes]

Does it speak to a mindset outside of blithering idiocy? Or is this an isolated mindset on rape. I'm not trying to be deep, and have no agenda. Just asking. I'm out of touch, but I wonder if Spec Op: Bro-Dude culture has gotten that bad.. not the usual bro dudes, but the ones you knew had stories of suspect hook-up stories, and behavior. The picture of why you warn your daughter about not leaving her drinks behind.. those fellows.

He'd catch a confrontation for that immediately. Would probably kill my buzz to do it, but it would be worth it to get further understanding of where his mind is at to accept thats a great idea. Any sisters?

I don't know the answer to that... people have private lives and think way differently in the privacy of their homes than they would in public. When those 'bros' are together, there's no way to know what they're really talking about.

However, I'd say there's a great chance this dude was seen as inappropriate, if not borderline offensive. I don't think people aren't able to see 'rape' as a punch line in the right context, but it definitely just made me sigh out loud, nothing else.

 

[SummitAve]

Let's all continue giving some bozo in a stupid shirt all the attention he so desperately wants... This isn't worth batting an eye at. There is a discussion to be had about public prejudice, but this is an insulting basis to have it on.

 

[Raistlin]

It's truly a shane that even posing the question makes you feel so threatened.

it's truly a 'shane' that my post required

Spoiler

/s

for you

 

[jwk94]

Honestly, wearing the shirt was dumb, but this could be a gaming thing not actually raping people.

 

[SecretMoblin]

speech on clothing has been explicitly protected for a while, though

what a dumb dude

 

[Zakalwe]

Honestly, wearing the shirt was dumb, but this could be a gaming thing not actually raping people.

That doesn't make it any better. The fact that the word is used in the context of competition (gaming prevalently) is part of the problem.

 

[daycru]

Shirts are not prejudiced. Dumb, not prejudiced. Either way, probably not a big enough deal to throw out the concept of free speech for.

 

[Africanus]

I wonder if, in two years, the man recorded in this photograph will be ruined by this.

Note, this is not my approval of this person or his shirt.

 

[SmokyDave]

I'm sure he never intended to end up on Twitter when he chose that shirt. No sir. What kind of cynic would play the internet in such a manner?!

 

[Onion_Relish]

Should have been removed from the premises. However, when in public, "you're not wrong, you're just a massive fucking asshole."

He should have been removed for wearing a t-shirt? I was just thinking about how NeoGAF has developed a culture of perpetrating thought crimes, and this shows that in spades. It's a retarded shirt and he is retarded for wearing it, but if it offends you, get over it. Or you know, turn the shirt inside out if you really can't deal with it.

 

[kamineko]

If dude wanted to give up on sex, he should have just skipped bathing for a few days. That moronic shirt is going to haunt him.

...which seems totally deserved. He totally has a right to wear the shirt & experience the results of being "that rape shirt guy."

 

[spekkeh]

People wear offensive shirts at festivals, news at eleven.

 

[Reversed]

It somehow reminded me of this tweet.

https://twitter.com/michaeljhudson/status/577658681409581058

 

[ElRenoRaven]

What a stupid motherfucker.

Took the words out of my mouth. Fucking disgusting and if I'd been an organizer and seen him in that shirt his ass would have been removed from the premises asap.

 

[jwk94]

That doesn't make it any better. The fact that the word is used in the context of competition (gaming prevalently) is part of the problem.

I realize that. I'm just saying it might not be about women.

 

[Foggy]

I won't be satisfied until I know where he works and where he lives.

 

[joelseph]

It's a retarded shirt and he is retarded for wearing it, but if it offends you, get over it.

Your post offends me.

 

[Clinton514]

I won't be satisfied until I know where he works and where he lives.

Sarcasm?

 

[aeolist]

I realize that. I'm just saying it might not be about women.

even if he meant it as a competitive thing it's still about women, because they are the ones most harmed by normalizing rape

 

[freenudemacusers]

i saw two dudes the other day walking down the street, and one was wearing a shirt that just said, in bold white letters 'FUCK YOU'. I happened to be driving around the corner next to him after picking up my mom and popped my head out of the window and said, in a jovial manner, 'hey fuck you too!'. was pretty funny, he was definitely taken aback by it, but his friend just started laughing his ass off. my mom got scared and said, “You’re movin’ with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air.” I whistled for a cab and when it came near The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror If anything I could say that this cab was rare But I thought, “Nah, forget it. Yo home to Bel-Air!” I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 And I yelled to the cabby yo holmes smell ya later Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

 

[Valhelm]

how do you know he isn't into dudes?

you're being sexist

ayy

The Vice article actually mentions that he was with his girlfriend, who was surprised that the reported didn't find his shirt hilarious.

 

[Zakalwe]

I realize that. I'm just saying it might not be about women.

The perpetuates all of it though, so it is. I'm not trying to be pedantic for the sake of an argument, just saying also.

 

[LosDaddie]

I'm sure he's happy to have successfully trolled the Internet outrage machine.